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If Obama were a Marxist, what would he believe? (Change you can believe in!!)
American Thinker ^ | October 16, 2009 | Kelly O'Connell

Posted on 10/17/2009 5:02:27 AM PDT by broken_arrow1

This article offers the basic teachings of Karl Marx, so readers may judge themselves whether these might be at work influencing current Administration decisions. In the present chaotic political atmosphere, the phrase "Marxist" is tossed around without explanation. But what exactly does Marxism represent? Marx's universe was simplistic. It presents a godless, sinister world where the powerful prey upon the weak, which can only be healed through revolution. In the resulting apocalypse, wealth is confiscated by revolutionaries so all may benefit. Private property is outlawed as enlightened leaders build a paradise of communism. But before utopia arrives, a principled assault must destroy capitalism.

Besides the above classic theory, a new approach, called Neo-Marxism, has arisen. It focuses upon cultural conversions for communism, and produces explosive fruit, such as Political Correctness, the Sexual Revolution, Global Warming, Hate Speech laws, Feminism, Multiculturalism, and Universal Health Care, etc. Critics warn reborn Marxism is exceedingly dangerous since it is delivered below the radar, and represents a devious bloodless communist assault, a polar-opposite of the violently murderous Bolshevik and Mao uprisings.

Mini-Summary: Marxism concerns wealth. God is dead, Darwin rules. The rich steal from the poor. Communist revolution will destroy capitalism, outlawing private property to establish paradise.

The following is a basic overview of some essential aspects of Marxism

Founder: German economist Karl Marx lived from 1818-1883, after the tumultuous Industrial Revolution, when modern business forms coalesced. This period saw much economic growth, yet laws protecting workers did not develop overnight. Many were damaged by unfettered business practice, and Marx reacted angrily to this in influential works like, "Das Kapital" and the "Communist Manifesto."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communism; marxism; obama; socialism
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Can there be any doubt about the Neo-Marxist "Triad of Tyranny" [Obama, Pelosi and Reid] and their agenda to transform America!
1 posted on 10/17/2009 5:02:27 AM PDT by broken_arrow1
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To: broken_arrow1
If Obama were a Marxist, what would he believe?

That's a tough one. It's easy to tell what the Marxist in our White House claims to believe, it's on his web site, but we don't know the details of the socialist's real beliefs beyond his evil idea that he has the right to spread other people's wealth around.

2 posted on 10/17/2009 5:06:36 AM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: broken_arrow1
What we really have going on here is the tyranny of the majority, regardless the "ism" they march to. It may make more sense to hold the Constitution in their face, instead of trying to pigeon hole them into this “*ism” or that.

I say we hold to the Constitution ... This health care crap is unconstitutional. You think the Constitution gives the government the right to demand you supply your healthcare records for their use however they want? Force you to buy something? penalize you if you don't? What about the 4th Amendment?

Use the force, use the Constitution. All these clunkers took an oath to support, defend and protect the Constitution -- I say it's high time we held them to their oath of office.

3 posted on 10/17/2009 5:18:03 AM PDT by Tarpon (Oba-Mao is a reader, not a leader ...)
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To: broken_arrow1

Why so Marxist???

4 posted on 10/17/2009 5:23:44 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: TurtleUp
we don't know the details of the socialist's real beliefs

They are contained in the rants of one Jeremiah Wright, as well as the preaching of that piece of excrement, Louis Farrakahn.

His methods are detailed in Rules For Radicals and his (lack of) ethics are reflected in the saying, "The ends justify the means".

He is a radical leftist who has apppointed tax cheats, Maoists and Marxists to administrative posts, and a Hispanic bigot to the SCOTUS.

His tenure as usurper will blend aspects of socialism (the govt controls the means of production) Communism (the rights of the individual are subservient to the State) and fascism (See: Chicago thug politics).

To paraphrase Denny Green, "He is who we thought he was."
5 posted on 10/17/2009 5:24:53 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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What is so disheartening is socialism has failed the world over, but yet these foolish people on the left want to keep destroying what works (capitalism) and is good despite some flaws.

It's complete idiocy to want to do this unless you are evil!

6 posted on 10/17/2009 5:29:32 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: Canedawg

“He is who we thought he was.”

....and WORSE!!


7 posted on 10/17/2009 5:34:56 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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I heard a great speech many years ago, can't recall who or when, but it pointed out what an enemy would that wanted to destroy our way of life, starting with our educational system. It then listed the various things that would have to be done by someone who wanted to ruin our kid's future by depriving them of a quality education. The punch line was that ALL of these things were done, or being done, and it was by the unions and bureaucracy that's been bedeviling education for the last 40 years! I for one will find great comfort when living under socialist rule that it happened because of the well-intentioned efforts of our own people, not some evil outside influence!
8 posted on 10/17/2009 5:36:31 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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Where will America vent their rage and frustration?

Find an undeniable Marxist object and aim low.


9 posted on 10/17/2009 5:39:19 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: broken_arrow1
Obama is a radical communist
10 posted on 10/17/2009 5:40:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Quit looking for a leader and be a leader.)
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To: Tarpon

I agree but Our supposed side has Not metioned the Constitution once ,all they do is talk about is the Cost opening the door for the democrats to lie about that and then where do you go.
I have said before My Freedom is not for sale, but these Republicans that are supposed Americans are COWARDS


11 posted on 10/17/2009 5:43:00 AM PDT by ballplayer
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re: socialism has failed the world over

Only in the opinion of conservative thinkers. To the liberal Cuba is a great success. They sing its praises all the time. Failure is in the eye, and the heart, of the beholder.

We do our cause a disservice when we think the Left just doesn’t understand how bad socialism is. Truth is, they know very well how it sucks, and that’s OK with them. Remember, conservative level the playing field by bringing in fresh dirt to fill the depressions, liberals level the field by scrapping dirt off the high spots and putting it in the low spots. Problem is, that only works for a short while. Unless you first address the problem that’s caused the low spots AND bring in FRESH dirt to fill them, all you’ve done is encourage the behavior that caused the low spots.

There simply is no reasoning with liberals and socialists, they will never ‘get it’. The side that wants to prevail will have to force it on the other side. The difference will be what’s left when you’re done. If liberals prevail there won’t be anything left worth having.


12 posted on 10/17/2009 5:43:18 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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God is dead

There is a large push against symbols of Christ and the bible,attacks on Christians. ACLU driven, financed by atheist George Soros.

13 posted on 10/17/2009 5:51:03 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: broken_arrow1

Why would any member of the Cabinet remain in office,when all of their authority has been and will be usurped by the “COMMISSARS”? Judd Gregg was given Commerce,then had the Census given to Rahm. Gregg had enough sense to then turn the job down. If Cabinet members were worth anything,they would all resign in protest. Oops,answered my own question!


14 posted on 10/17/2009 5:55:13 AM PDT by Bob from De ((All liberals may not be narcissists...but it sure seems to help))
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To: ballplayer
all they do is talk about is the Cost

I'm so happy that someone is noticing.

but these Republicans that are supposed Americans are COWARDS

That too.

15 posted on 10/17/2009 6:00:11 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Quit looking for a leader and be a leader.)
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To: broken_arrow1

The writer has an excellent grasp, far better than I, of the definition of communism. I think when anyone tosses around these terms they are different in content in each other’s minds so worrying about the correctness of the definition is not the key point. The crux of the matter is exactly what der leader is up to here with his henchmen around him, in the Congress and on the supreme court: following the Cloward-Piven strategy. At the rate we are spending and borrowing money now, we will collapse. Whether that is sooner or later does not matter, it is inevitable.

der leader is nothing but a three card monte dealer, now you see it now you don’t. All his rhetoric is designed to move us to a “the one” society. Do I think he is a Trojan horse of the Chinese or Ruskies? No I do not. His concepts though will cause this nation to become subservient to those states, and many others. His concepts are close to Communism for sure but I do not think he believes there be no private property. In any event it does not matter as we have given a way most of those rights before der leader’s time, the most recent being the Kelo Decision giving the state the right to confiscate property for the better good of paying more taxes! In most states, try to argue you were defending your property when you blasted someone to hell and you will be looking at the inside of a cell for the rest of your life.

This guy is the most dangerous threat to this society since the flu epidemic of 1918. The Nazi’s and the Japs were not going to change this society, the Ruskies would have had to obliterate it but that is not a change per se. He is set upon the road of redistributing the what were lawful gains by individuals to those who did not do as well, his definition of “the
one” society. If you asked him if he is a communist, his answer would be hell no. For him, the noble thing is to make everyone economically equal. Of course, in his and his cohort’s minds, some will be more equal than others with he and his henchmen the former.

This is a guy who looks at outcomes and whether the outcome is going to be called Obamism, Neo-Communism, socialism or something else in the future is not relevant. What is relevant is it needs be stopped. We did it once before when Roosevelt tried to go down this same path but he met too much opposition and the war got in his way too.

I think we all know what the problem is but until the electorate wakes up, assuming they have not been so corrupted to want to change the very pillars of this nation, we have to get him, his supporters and fellow travelers out of office. For that to happen, the media, the have nots, the ignorant and the sloths must be enlightened or at least their numbers reduced. Remember the amnesty program that will be the next to come down the pike has nothing to do with being nice, it has to do with making sure there are more people wishing to go on the dole and in doing so reduce the ratio of haves to have nots. Hell, most people don’t even pay income tax now so why expect any change with that except for it to become more “progressive”. That light at the end of the tunnel is not the light from Diogenes Lantern, it is the express train to disaster.

My final thought is a story about someone who argued with me about the stimulus package. I said my point is I do not want to pay for: your mortgage, your credit card debt, your car, your health insurance or your student debt unless I chose to do so for family and hardship cases known to me.

Vince


16 posted on 10/17/2009 6:07:17 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: broken_arrow1

Obama is the most successful communist traitor mole in history.


17 posted on 10/17/2009 6:15:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: broken_arrow1

“He is who we thought he was.”
....and WORSE!!

Even that will become an understatement...


18 posted on 10/17/2009 6:17:49 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Canedawg
To paraphrase Denny Green, "He is who we thought he was."

I pray you're wrong on that!

19 posted on 10/17/2009 6:18:25 AM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Mouton
“I think we all know what the problem is but until the electorate wakes up, assuming they have not been so corrupted to want to change the very pillars of this nation, we have to get him, his supporters and fellow travelers out of office. For that to happen, the media, the have nots, the ignorant and the sloths must be enlightened or at least their numbers reduced.”

That's what war is for... to reduce one side or the other until the last man willing to die for his side/cause is dead. Last man standing, wins.

Hussein & Co. will not be removed by “elections”, tea party revolts, personal ownership of guns, etc. Perhaps things will begin to come to a head after Hussein signs the UN treaty and Congress rahams it through, ceding US sovereignty. The outcry could force the formation of Hussein's Civil Defense Force, which in turn begins a very bloody Civil War, thereby reducing the above.

20 posted on 10/17/2009 6:31:08 AM PDT by PIF
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