“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
Ben Franklin
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"the government strong enough to give you what you want is strong enough to take it all away."
Barry Goldwater in 1964
Posted on 10/19/2009 5:02:46 AM PDT by RoadTest
Do you ever get tired of pooping all over the Constitution?
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I think you need to ask that question of the Senate and the Poser in Chief. Then you should join oathkeepers and remember the oath you took(if you even took one, which I doubt).
“he plans on taking control of the United States. It is only a matter of when.”
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“Yes, he plans” but thing do not always go as you plan.
There is a small complication of about 80 million armed citizens to contend with.
And a people who have a long history of enjoying freedom.
WE THE PEOPLE are still here.
I, an American Soldier, took an oath to defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. I never vowed to protect the president, the state, or its laws (other than those which are Constitutional). Therefore, this is a no brainer for me.
“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
Ben Franklin
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"the government strong enough to give you what you want is strong enough to take it all away."
Barry Goldwater in 1964
You mean those itty bitty parts about presidential eligibility? Or the 10th Amendment? Or the power of the executive branch ( which doesn't address taking over private industries and firing their CEOs?)
Go away. You're an apologist for an attempted fascist takeover.
I just posted my oath in the testimonial section.
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
Tell that to the Ceasescu family.
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Control the food/water, you control those who need food and water (i.e., everyone).
Starving people will trade guns for food.
Just sayin'...
I live in fly-over country. My family has farmed here since 1886. We can be totally self sufficient on food if needed. But currently is silly to do that.
We have great neighbors and a history of helping each other.
Texas in general is “not receptive” to being forced to do things. Submission has been tried before, and the results were pretty extreme for the “outsiders”. The attempts did not last long.
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“Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.” Sam Houston
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Some things do not change!
After thought, your point about food as a weapon is well taken.
The almost silent passage of HR2749 FDA Food Production Takeover. (note- has not yet passed the Senate)
See the last column from my Congressional Vote Scorecard, it is that bill.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2341921/posts
This is a stealth takeover of food production in the U.S.
The ultimate weapon, with hold food for subjection.
Right behind it is, with hold medical attention for subjection.
I am sure it is part of Obozo’s plan. Things do not always work out like you plan.
Possible CWII Ping?
Nice job, there are 100’s more. He hates the South, despises it and anyone that lives in it. He also loves Muslims. You can’t search for the thread, too old but back in 2002 he was defending Muslims. He won’t address that now. If you mention it he ignores it. He pretends bases 99% of his arguments on the Constitution but 75% of the time they make no sense. He doesn’t care if Congress or Obongo sh*t on the Constitution but if military officers and people at oathkeepers say they will honor their oath, he gets furious and says that is unconstitutional. I would be my life he voted for Obongo. Not a doubt in my mind.
We will need those prayers, it is all we got.
Because most men (includeing here on FR)will not and would not even give up football to stand against the commies.
So fear is the correct response, hunkering down is the only way to go..there will be no revolt in this country ever again.
“When the people fear the govenment, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is freedom.” Thomas Jeffeson.
And if I ever have the chance I'll ask them that, too. But back to you. So you want to do away with that whole silly First Amendment thing. What other parts of the Constitution do you view as a waste?
Then you should join oathkeepers and remember the oath you took(if you even took one, which I doubt).
Unlike you I did serve in the military, almost all of my adult life in fact. So I took an oath to defend the Constitution which I took seriously then and I still take seriously now. It's easy for those to whom the Constitution is just a piece of paper to treat it with contempt, as you and Obama and others in government on both sides of the aisle do. Those who actually had to put their ass on the line to protect it feel a little bit differently about it.
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