Daily Kos “Refutes” the Tenth Amendment(As if!)

Tenth Amendment Center ^ | Oct. 19, 2009 | Josh Eboch

[ForGod'sSake]

Although I don’t expect the state sovereignty movement to get a fair hearing over at Daily Kos, the total historical ignorance and vacuous credulity of some liberals never ceases to amaze me.

A recent post, which purports to offer intellectual firepower capable of refuting the arguments of “tenthers,” essentially states that “Everything the federal government does is constitutional because the federal government says so.”

Observe:

Obviously Medicare, Social Security, and the Air Force (yes, I’ve had tenthers tell me the Air Force is unconstitutional) are legal because we’ve had them for decades without being struck down by the Supreme Court.

Obviously. Except that the Constitution explicitly did not grant the federal government authority to do anything beyond its enumerated powers, and what was necessary and proper to exercise its enumerated powers. That would by definition render both Medicare and Social Security (the Air Force being a red herring) unconstitutional.

Apparently Daily Kos believes that, because the Supreme Court has found constitutional limitations on federal power to be politically inexpedient, those limits are moot. As if committing a crime often enough makes it legal.

I pity anyone whose life is lived in such contemptible obsequiousness to arbitrary power.

So what rights are granted under the Tenth Amendment? Well, [the states are] given the right to exist and form their own laws.

How arrogant! After all, it was the people of the states themselves that formed the federal government by ratifying the Constitution; their right to exist and make laws could not possibly have been surrendered by such action.

Unfortunately for the writers and readers at Daily Kos and the Huffington Post, the U.S. Supreme Court has never been legally able to bind the states with its decrees. In our federalist system, the power to decide the limits of federal authority has always necessarily resided with the states themselves.

When presented with these facts, those who scoff at state (and individual) sovereignty often resort to claiming the question of ultimate authority was answered by Lincoln through four years of hideous fratricide.

But citing the subjugation of principled logic through force of arms is hardly a definitive legal high ground; it only further demonstrates intellectual weakness.

So next time, when you hear a tenther jackass pretending that they know something about the Constitution, feel free to not just call them stupid, but to tell them why they’re stupid.

Don’t worry, we always do.

[ForGod'sSake]

This one is a bit of a hoot. You have GOT to take a look at what one of the kos kiddies OFFERED UP as a refutation of the States' powers re the 10th Amendment... Lame? You make the call...

The kos kiddies have entered the room!

Click the 10th Amendment button for articles tagged "10thamendment". A "statesrights" link is atop the forum page.

Please ~ping~ me to articles relating to the 10th Amendment/States Rights so I can engage the pinger.

I've stopped scouring threads and unilaterally adding names to the ping list, so if you want on or off the list just say so.

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[manc]

I swear bozo voters have to be the dumbest voters this country has ever produced.

The funny thing is that they have no clue just how thick they really are because of the way they surround themselves with like minded folks or be told what is what by the way of bumper stickers.

[Jacquerie]

The 10th? To get a real blank stare, ask a rat to discuss the 9th.

[cranked]

"Everything the federal government does is constitutional because the federal government says so." *shakeshead* LMAO.

[cripplecreek]

The funniest thing is the fact that the morons aren’t smart enough to realize that democrats were pushing 10th amendment legislation when Bush was president.

[Army Air Corps]

You may be interested in this.

[manc]

I'll be honest now.
I have traveled to many countries , lived in many traveled around this country and lived in various places.
I have never met anyone on the left who actually has common sense and brains.
They bleat about what ivy league school they went to but have not an ounce of common sense. Even my sons teacher last year came up with a great one(my son was 10 at the time) The teacher said about global warming etc and my son asked why the south pole is getting colder then. His answer was well the glaciers are getting biggewr but the ice is still melting. Later in the class the teacher said about warming again and emissions . My son asked why was the earth warmer hundreds of years ago then went colder in the 70's and how did the earth warm up after the ice age when we didn;t have cars, emissions etc. The teacher had not got a clue and then refused to even pick my son for the rest of the year for a question. BTW My son is honor roll and A's all his life and now is on a programme with the Cambridge university (he is now nearly 12) He only ever got one B and guess which teacher gave him that B?

[Road Warrior ‘04]

The kids over at Daily Kos have no idea what the Constitution is, let alone the 10th Amendment!

[reefdiver]

well the little piss ants are able to round up voters. they get their marching orders, and like the borg do what ever the collective tells them to do. i’ve met some, angry, defiant, hate the right. they have no idea of work, and want it all free now.

[ForGod'sSake]

The funny thing is that they have no clue just how thick they really are because of the way they surround themselves with like minded folks or be told what is what by the way of bumper stickers.

After years of engaging libtards one-on-one that rings exactly dead on. One has to add to the mix the efforts of Hollyweird, the dinomedia, and an added plus, Madison Avenue. ALL of which preserve, protect and defend libtard sensibilities. I suspect a fair proportion of them actually "feel" they are mainstream. The others just use these props to support their skewed vision of the world. But fact of the matter is, I have rarely engaged a libtard that used any independent thought to support their foolishness. "I saw it on the news" or "I read it in the paper" is about as far as any of them can go. Oh and, "They're(Dims) are for the little people. FEH!

[ForGod'sSake]

The 10th? To get a real blank stare, ask a rat to discuss the 9th.

Heh. That's only until the arm waving and frothing around the mouth kicks in. Tell one of them that Dims are a bunch of commie loving, America hating sociapaths and you may have just as well called their mama a female dog. They are somehow THAT attached to the ideology. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

[ForGod'sSake]

OOPS! I neglected one other MAJOR player in the mix: Academia. To include indoctrinaton from K through 12 and “higher” education up to and including PhD candidates. The dark side began getting to the kids somewhere along in the 60’s at the latest; maybe before. I suppose it’s a small wonder the country is STILL holding together — barely...

[manc]

I agree with that.

If you look at my past comment recently I mentioned how a teacher for my son tried to push an agenda and my son was punished because he brought good point , questions up.

If you don’;t mind me asking but do you find yourself more and more saying what is the use?

I have thought about it but then I think that people as many people as possible need to know what is going on as the so called media are not telling the facts

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks FGS, you “tenther” you. ;’)

[NTHockey]

Today on Hannity, a self-employed(??) LIB came up with this gem, regarding SS and Medicare:

“Just because they are bankrupt, doesn’t make it bad”.

[ForGod'sSake]

If you don’;t mind me asking but do you find yourself more and more saying what is the use?

Honestly, after the election of odinga and what amounts to a near bullteproof congress, I was really down. Fact is, and knowing full well what odinga was about, I began preparing mentally for the battle that was sure to come, sooner or later. The hardware is already in place FWIW. Then The States began making noises about reasserting their rightful position in the hierarchy and I grabbed onto it like a life raft in a stormy sea. THIS was a viable way to set the world aright IMHO. BUT we will have to get behind our State representatives to let them know that We The People want them back on the wall shielding us against the feral government. The States SHOULD have been our first line of defense all along, but many machinations by the federales have kept them quiet for the most part.

I have thought about it but then I think that people as many people as possible need to know what is going on as the so called media are not telling the facts

True enough, but even so, Americans by in large seem to have a grasp of what odinga's hope and change are all about. Glenn Beck has made a huge difference in giving us a rallying point or muster point. The turnout on 9/12, especially in DC, was a turning point for me. At MINIMUM, 1 million patriots filled the mall and the streets leading into the capitol. I don't think there's any real doubt it was the largest gathering of humanity ever assembled there. If one uses the old axiom about one person standing up actually represents one hundred that don't, but feel the same way, well -- do the math. VERY grafitying.

So, I have hope(ack, even using that word now makes me feel dirty) that Americans will come to life in the nick of time. I pray I'm right about that.

[ForGod'sSake]

I prefer being called a member of the “10th Amendment Division” thank you very much... But Tenther works. ;^)

[astyanax]

That’s exactly what I would expect from them.
If they had even the most basic grasp of the Constitution they would not be a Kos kiddie.

[ForGod'sSake]

If they had even the most basic grasp of the Constitution they would not be a Kos kiddie.

I'm not so sure I'd even give them that much credit. Even an idiot can be taught to understand basic principles as long as they have a willingness to learn. I've no doubt many of our antagonists fully understand the Constitution(one exception being the kiddie who wrote the piece in question) but like petulant adolescents feel compelled to rebel against a system that has actually worked pretty well for over 200 years. Still others with a grasp of our Constitution want to turn it into toilet paper for their own nefarious purposes. In the final analysis however, they're all, to varying degrees, dangerous to our constitutional republic and our way of life.