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Swine Flu Cases Overestimated? [INTENTIONALLY BY DHS]
CBS News ^ | Oct. 21, 2009 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 10/22/2009 5:07:07 AM PDT by cmj328

In late July, the CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases. The rationale given for the CDC guidance to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there's an epidemic?

Some public health officials privately disagreed with the decision to stop testing and counting, telling CBS News that continued tracking of this new and possibly changing virus was important because H1N1 has a different epidemiology, affects younger people more than seasonal flu and has been shown to have a higher case fatality rate than other flu virus strains.

...On Aug. 4, CBS News asked the CDC for e-mail communications to states and other documents regarding the guidance and its rationale. When CDC did not provide us with the documents, such as state-by-state numbers prior to halting testing and tracking, we filed a Freedom of Information request with the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). More than two months later, the request has not been fulfilled.

...We asked all 50 states for their statistics on state lab-confirmed H1N1 prior to the halt of individual testing and counting in July. The results reveal a pattern that surprised a number of health care professionals we consulted. The vast majority of cases were negative for H1N1 as well as seasonal flu, despite the fact that many states were specifically testing patients deemed to be most likely to have H1N1 flu, based on symptoms and risk factors, such as travel to Mexico.

...With most cases diagnosed solely on symptoms and risk factors, the H1N1 flu epidemic may seem worse than it is. For example, on Sept. 22, this alarming headline came from Georgetown University in Washington D.C.: "H1N1 Flu Infects Over 250 Georgetown Students."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: cases; cdc; flu; h1n1; influenza; overestimated; sebelius; sebellius; swine; swineflu
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Great reporting by CBS.
1 posted on 10/22/2009 5:07:07 AM PDT by cmj328
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To: cmj328

DHS and the Obama administration WANTED this
govt-iatrogenic epidemic because they left the
borders open, and then did NOTHING.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 5:09:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: cmj328

The government desperately wants a pandemic for control purposes.


3 posted on 10/22/2009 5:11:44 AM PDT by Dewey Revoltnow (BHO U R A POS)
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To: cmj328

They want this to be an epidemic sooooo badly.


4 posted on 10/22/2009 5:12:15 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: cmj328

Bump.


5 posted on 10/22/2009 5:16:11 AM PDT by allmost
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To: cmj328

I wouldn’t believe anything the government says.


6 posted on 10/22/2009 5:17:38 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Global cooling
Overpopulation
Sars
Ebola
Aids
Global warming
Bran muffins
Bird flu
Swine flu

How did all these crisis work out?


7 posted on 10/22/2009 5:23:34 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: cmj328

Someone suggested yesterday that they are telling people who had the flu they really didn’t have the flu to convince them get them to get the vaccine shot. That way they can say they prevented a huge number of deaths (from a not-so prevalent and not-so deadly illness).

Sounds like obama to me.


8 posted on 10/22/2009 5:27:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: onedoug

I’m pregnant and my doctor was very insistent that the H1N1 vaccine should be taken by all pregnant women because the odds of dying from the vaccine are less than the odds of dying from flu. Well...except the shot’s not available yet, so how do they know what the odds are of dying from it? I got a regular flu shot, and she said the H1N1 is manufactured the same way, they just use that strain of the virus. I’m still deciding. She also said if someone in my family gets the flu, or if I do, to come in right away to get Tamoxifen, or whatever it’s called. I don’t trust the news at all, and I don’t actually trust any doctor, either...I can’t even say that I trust the internet less than a doctor, because there are too many things that a doctor can miss.


9 posted on 10/22/2009 5:32:55 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: cmj328

Never let a crisis go to waste. And if you don’t have a crisis to work with, create one.


10 posted on 10/22/2009 5:40:06 AM PDT by wny
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To: cmj328

I have no idea what to believe coming from this administration. First they say don’t bother testing. Now they say get the vaccine even if you were told you had H1N1 because it probably wasn’t really H1N1??
Uh...Thanks but no thanks!!!


11 posted on 10/22/2009 5:43:26 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

For what it’s worth, I would go with your doctor and get the vaccination when it’s available. In my mind, this is primarily because the flu does seem to hit pregnant women especially hard.

I am probably as reticent as you about the state of knowledge, but if given the choice between a pro-active stance and a passive one, I would go pro-active. You will probably have commentary to the contrary and I hope considering both viewpoints will help bring you to a decision with a positive outcome.

All the best for you and your future little one.


12 posted on 10/22/2009 5:44:32 AM PDT by tanuki (The only color of a leader that should matter is the color of his spine.)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

My advice, don’t. When in doubt, don’t. The times that I’ve let myself get talked into doing something I saw “red flags” about, I’ve always regretted. When I’ve stuck with my guns, even though once or twice it has been the wrong decision, I could live with it.

Wash your hands, avoid people who are sick, eat well and get plenty of rest. That’s better than any vaccine, imo.


13 posted on 10/22/2009 5:47:23 AM PDT by Jemian (Stop calling yourself a republican when you are really a RAT in RINO clothing.)
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To: jackv

It makes me wonder just what is in the vaccine that they want us to get it regardless of everything else. Just get the vaccine.

Makes me nervous.


14 posted on 10/22/2009 5:51:25 AM PDT by Jemian (Stop calling yourself a republican when you are really a RAT in RINO clothing.)
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To: cmj328; Texas resident; jackv; Beloved Levinite
With the cases being reported are people actually getting it from the FluMist nasal spray which has live virus in it? Seems like the virus showed up and the flu season started awful early this year. Reported outbreaks following in the wake of FluMist nasal vaccine distribution.

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed

15 posted on 10/22/2009 5:56:15 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

supposedly this nasal form is a “live” virus one and those getting it are capable of “shedding” the virus and afflicting others—
most likely what they want to happen.


16 posted on 10/22/2009 6:12:12 AM PDT by catroina54
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Though I’m not pregnant, I do have asthma - the last dr. appt. my hubby had - doc went on and on about how hubby, son, and I MUST have the H1N1 vaccine because of my asthma... blah, blah... If this hits our community, the town will shut down, no power, no water... blah blah... this one kills... blah blah

Total hype of worse case scenario.

So much of the H1N1 is hype, but for pregnant women, you have to be especially careful... I’d be tempted to get it if I were pregnant, but I don’t know....

All I can say is pray about it.


17 posted on 10/22/2009 6:20:15 AM PDT by Grumpybutt (Common Sense - where has it gone?)
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To: onedoug

YOU SAID: I wouldn’t believe anything the government says. With that attitude you might live much longer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTOXkyaFv4&feature=PlayList&p=4355F5DA115A9F98


18 posted on 10/22/2009 6:31:28 AM PDT by scgator
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To: ReagansShinyHair

What this whole thing boils down to is who does one trust? The government? Or God who built our body’s with an immune system?

I am a school nurse and it has been crazy. Parents have lost all common sense.
People who have compromised health/immune systems should consider the support of a vaccine but good grief...for most people this flu will be like typical flu. Of course it’s not fun, but we’ll be just fine in a few days.
Fevers, sore throats, aches and pains are our immune system doing it’s job fighting the disease.


19 posted on 10/22/2009 6:38:34 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Let’s call this what it is: Mass Homicide and Extortion.


20 posted on 10/22/2009 7:41:36 AM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a ObamaCare--or lose reelection)
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