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'3 in 10 Americans believe Obama foreigner'
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 23, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/23/2009 8:29:42 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Three in 10 people in the United States believe President Barack Obama is a foreigner, according to a new poll from an international leader in market research who asked residents about their beliefs regarding the president's birth place.

The survey was done by Angus Reid Global Monitor, a division of Vision Critical Group, which leverages "the world's most advanced online research technology for interactive surveys, custom panels, private communities and virtual retail environments."

The results of the survey, released today, said 70 percent of the respondents believe Obama was born in the U.S., "while 30 percent do not."

"While only 13 percent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 percent among Independents and 51 percent among Republican Party backers," the report said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; certifigate; deport; foreignborn
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To: sickoflibs

Oh. Well. Such a substantive reply.

As it happens, I ‘give a crap’ about constitutional law. If an ineligible candidate were to have been elected President, certain problems might conceivably ensue ....

Why does he not end all this by the simple production of his actual birth certificate? Why does he instead spend millions of US taxpayer dollars on ‘frivolous’ lawsuits’?

But, as you say, who gives a crap about such as that?


21 posted on 10/23/2009 9:15:16 PM PDT by dodger
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To: dodger
RE :” Why does he instead spend millions of US taxpayer dollars on ‘frivolous’ lawsuits’?

Thats you birth-certificaters doing that. Thats why that one CA judge is threatening you with jail.

RE “I ‘give a crap’ about constitutional law

No you don't , You are just another sore loser who cant win by the rules so claim the rules are unfair, Every election has millions of you. Thats why you are alone.

Alone with the MSNBC trolls posing as birth-certificaters trying to make all of us Obama opposer's look like kooks .

22 posted on 10/23/2009 9:31:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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Well, he (now) uses a foreign name. Like many foreigners, he often criticizes the USA. Also like many foreigners, he appears envious and resentful of America’s prosperity and her preeminent role in the world. Finally, he often puts the interests of foreigners over those of Americans—the closing of GITMO and the transfer of the terrorists held there to the USA demonstrates this. He is clearly more interested in the “rights” and comforts of foreign terrorists than in the safety of America’s children.
A foreigner at heart, most definitely.


23 posted on 10/23/2009 9:31:28 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: RobinMasters

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


24 posted on 10/23/2009 10:12:44 PM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: sickoflibs
Who gives a crap? He was elected, deal with reality, Thats how you win! Living in la-la land gets you no place.

Fine. Now explain to me why he hasn't produced a birth certificate.

25 posted on 10/23/2009 10:32:24 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: LucyT

Ping for later!!!


26 posted on 10/23/2009 10:45:29 PM PDT by danamco
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To: RobinMasters

This number has grown and will grow more.


27 posted on 10/24/2009 12:29:35 AM PDT by TheThinker
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To: RobinMasters

CERTIFICATE-GATE

Kenya Sunday Standard headline — “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”

The Nigerian Observer — “Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The Kenyan-born Senator will…”

USAfrica — “Kenyan-born OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House…”

AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…”

GraphicGhana.com — “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this
presidential visit to the continent of his birth.” The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com.

The Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly
(CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.”

From the comment section:
(”AmericanDaughter“) NPR.org — “…She also describes the stories that have been exciting, including the U.S. presidential race of Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama.”

(”AmericanDaughter“) AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency.” "


“Kenyan Historian: It's Odd that Kenyan Luo Tribe Member (Obama) Elected President in US Before Kenya (Audio)
We already knew that Barack Obama's brother Malik was a Luo activist and a militant Muslim
who argued that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture."



“Article in Nairobi Paper June 2004 - Barack born in Africa
An ongoing poll by AOL News currently shows that 58% of Americans have doubts
about Obama’s citizenship. The poll was started on July 28 and continues — you can go
here to vote. And lest you think that this survey is being conducted in a very anti-Obama
venue, the title of the article is Birthers, Beer and Stuck on ‘Stupidly’ — it is an
environment contemptuous of skeptics. So we can conclude that the results of their poll
are not what they were hoping for.

A scant five years ago, Barack Obama was a little known Illinois state politician, aspiring
to move up to the United States Senate. Undoubtedly, the Marxist handlers behind this
Manchurian candidate had long range plans to capture the US presidency since he was
groomed as a youth by Frank Marshall Davis. But the general public and the press were
not privy to this information.

At that time, there would have been no reason to fabricate a story about Obama’s birth
that would disqualify him for the highest US office. This would be especially true for an
African paper that was simply proud of their native son. So it is reasonable to take the
press clippings of the day at face value. The following item has been on the web all
along, but apparently did not get much attention. It is a June 2004 article from the online
version of the East African Standard, an English-language paper published in Nairobi,
Kenya, titled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.“


Br> “US Presidential Polls:Obama, McCain slug it out today
WASHINGTON – Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with
Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win.
The Kenyan-born Senator will, however, face a stiff competition from his Republican
counterpart, John McCain who has taken the presidential battle to the finishing line with
vigorous campaign strategies.”


“Americans Decide Today - go Obama (this site hasn't been scrubbed yet)
So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .
A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.”


“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates
, Hibarger said. “


"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."


Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."



28 posted on 10/24/2009 3:18:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: celtic gal

“but seems Dear Leader has something to hide”

I’d bet that he has loads of things to hide about his true background....where he was born, that he got into some of his secondary schools via foreign exchange student status, probably got mediocre to poor grades, etc, etc, etc.

He’s lied his way to where he is today and continues to lie to the American public. An empty suit and two-bit punk.


29 posted on 10/24/2009 5:17:05 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: RobinMasters

So when is the manufactured ET is here amongst us event going to happen?

Obama is getting a LOT of negativity every single hour it seems, he surely must have a “hail mary” plan to divert attention?


30 posted on 10/24/2009 5:20:31 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: sickoflibs

“Who gives a crap?” A lot of people give a crap because if he is a fraud and is not eligible to be president, then a major part of the Constitution has been violated. If our society is willing to let that slide, then why enforce any other part of the Constituiton? The fact that he is paying attorneys big bucks to keep all his past records sealed or secret tells us that there is something to hide. If he were to release his records, all this controversy would go away and his accusers would be aced out overnight, a huge polical victory for the bamster. But he is not doing that, he continues to keep all his records hidden. For a reason.


31 posted on 10/24/2009 5:33:22 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: RobinMasters
The Angus Reid Global Monitor is "an international leader in market research?" Who knew?

Oh, never mind -- it's Whirled Nuts Daily.

32 posted on 10/24/2009 5:42:01 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: sickoflibs; dodger
RE :” Why does he instead spend millions of US taxpayer dollars on ‘frivolous’ lawsuits’? ”

Thats you birth-certificaters doing that. Thats why that one CA judge is threatening you with jail.

Hey Sicko, most of the lawsuits - aimed at transparency, BTW - are the result of pro bono work. Defending them has cost millions. Why? Why not let the world see the piece of paper in that vault in Hawaii? Why fight so hard to keep it quiet.

A president gives up, or should give up, certain privacy rights. The presentation of his FRIGGIN' BIRTH CERTIFICATE is one of them.

It's spooky that there's so little paper trail on this guy. The-most-transparent-president-in-history seems to have had his background wiped away. Clinton was the first president to hide his medical records. Obama hides everything, including college transcripts, birth certificates, etc.

As a citizen, I want to see these to gain insight into the guy who's currently the leader of the free world. I mean, come on, there's nothing on record that he's written except for a very bad piece of writing in a college paper until he pens what many consider the greatest literary work by a modern politician. It doesn't add up. That's not the way the world works.

RE “I ‘give a crap’ about constitutional law”

No you don't , You are just another sore loser who cant win by the rules so claim the rules are unfair, Every election has millions of you. Thats why you are alone.

Alone with the MSNBC trolls posing as birth-certificaters trying to make all of us Obama opposer's look like kooks .

LMAO... "Every election has millions of you. That's why you are alone."

Dodger's not claiming the rules are unfair. He's not even claiming they were broken. He just wants to know if they were broken.

Sicko, please don't PUI. It makes MSNBC trolls seem smart.

33 posted on 10/24/2009 5:50:48 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: Diogenesis
It is amazing to me that this large percentage of the population even **know** about the issue. Fox News, our conservative talk show hosts, and ( of course) the mainstream media have IGNORED the issue.

So?...Of that 30% how many read at a very high level and depend on the Internet for their news? Of those in the 70% who believe that Obama was born in the U.S. how many of them read poorly, or are functionally illiterate?

What would be the percentage of people who ( like myself) would say that their isn't enough evidence to make any determination of where Obama was born?

Finally, it **steams** me that our loud mouthed conservative talk show yappers have ignored this issue. I now know that they are all bluster with hearts of dust! When tyranny comes they will **willingly** spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.

Rush?, Beck? Hannity? OReilly? Coulter? and the rest of the Fox News beauties?....I will NEVER trust them again! NEVER!

34 posted on 10/24/2009 5:53:57 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Texas resident; Entrepreneur; dodger; NurdlyPeon
RE :”because if he is a fraud and is not eligible to be president, then a major part of the Constitution has been violated. If our society is willing to let that slide, then why enforce any other part of the Constituiton?

This is the most commonly used nonsense argument of birth-certificaters.

#1 No place in the constitution does it say that the presidential election gets overturned if you don't like his birth certificate. Birth certificate is not mentioned anyplace in the US constitution. Neither are you given that power beyond election day.

#2 You don't believe in the constitution anyway. Bush vs Gore was a clear violation of power by the SCOTUS, the US constitution clearly gave that power to select electors to the state, not the federal government. But you were happy with that ignoring of the constitution because ‘your guy’ won. The phoniness of your ‘sore-loserman’ attitude is apparent to nearly everyone.

That is why FNC, Ann Coulter, talk radio, .... everyone by MSNBC wont go near you. Some of you are MSNBC trolls put here to make the rest opposing Obama look crazy.

35 posted on 10/24/2009 6:58:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

Fine. Now explain to me why he hasn’t produced a birth certificate.


36 posted on 10/24/2009 9:14:10 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: RobinMasters

He might be an American citizen but he’s not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.....big differnce.


37 posted on 10/24/2009 9:17:58 AM PDT by Ann Archy (18%)
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

A spoiled brat and apart from the voting booth there is not much we can do about this...we can march the mall, town hall till we are blue in the face and what happens...these fu&*^*& democrats lie down and kick and fuss and get their way anyhow...
We The People don’t matter a damn to them, it is just our wallets that they care about and how fast they can empty them...our personal standard of living goes to hell, others get some improvement so we are all on their beloved “level playing field” whilst they enjoy all the perks of the nobility. F’em...( my Marinespeak is showing)


38 posted on 10/24/2009 10:38:07 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: PaleoBob
But Obama is the one who lets this issue malinger.

And he and his co-conspirators, the media, use it to marginalize anyone who questions his birth place, and for that matter, anyone else on the right who doesn't.

I suppose he (his handlers) considers it money well spent.

39 posted on 10/24/2009 10:43:57 AM PDT by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: sickoflibs

It matters not if we like his bc or not. His entire past is covered up and after the bc issue came up, he insulted our intelligence by issuing a COLB with minimal information on it. So no one is to bring up the bc issue otherwise be tagged as a mslsd troll? And since obama is keeping ALL his past records under seal, it causes a lot of suspicion. Where there’s smoke there is fire. We cannot depend on the media because they campaigned for this guy. Mclame was put through a long exhausting look through, but obama was not. The senate went through a long process trying to disqualify mccain because he was born in the canal zone, but did not put obama through near as much scrutiny. When you add in that he has been buddying up to the muslims after being elected and attacking American citizens, more people are getting tired of this garbage.
Another source of peoples anxiety is that obama is using the full force of the federal government to attack his political enemies and is not working for the protection of our country and it’s citizens. He is not an honorable or honest man and as time goes by, more of his character is on display. What happens next, I cannot predict, but if he is allowed to continue on his merry path, we will not recognize our country in a few short years. I have some real good friends who fled Venezuela because of what chavez was doing and now they are amazed and scared at how obama is following chavez pattern.


40 posted on 10/24/2009 4:13:44 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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