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Medical marijuana is an insult to our intelligence
Washington Post ^ | October 20, 2009 | Charles Lane

Posted on 10/26/2009 10:17:19 AM PDT by presidio9

The Justice Department says it's backing off the prosecution of people who smoke pot or sell it in compliance with state laws that permit "medical marijuana." Attorney General Eric Holder says "it will not be a priority to use federal resources to prosecute patients with serious illnesses or their caregivers." Party hardy! I mean -- let the healing begin!

I don't think the federal government should be spending a whole lot of time on small-time druggies, and I'm undecided about legalizing pot, which enjoys 44 percent support among the general public, according to a recent poll. Recreational use is not the wisest thing -- and if my 12-year-old son is reading this, that means you! -- but it's no more harmful than other drugs (e.g., alcohol) and impossible to eradicate. On the other hand, I worry it's a gateway to harder stuff. So I think we probably should have an open debate about decriminalization.

But it should be a real debate, about real decriminalization, and not clouded -- pardon the expression -- by hokum about

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dopersrights; drleroy; liberaltarianism; medicalmarijuana; nannystate; potandcircuses; smokingnazis; stoneragenda; wod
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1 posted on 10/26/2009 10:17:19 AM PDT by presidio9
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Two beers is grounds for a “public intoxication” charge these days.

Obama has prohibited the production of candy cigarettes and all flavor tobaccos except methol.

You can’t even smoke a cigarette in your car or home in some parts of this country.

and the dopers think that this nation will be somehow more permissive when it comes to pot.


2 posted on 10/26/2009 10:20:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: presidio9

Pot does nothing to reduce pain.


3 posted on 10/26/2009 10:22:09 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: Racer1

As a matter of fact, the health and mental consequences from pot use far out weights any imaginary benefits.


4 posted on 10/26/2009 10:24:22 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: presidio9

Pot is a violation of federal law. What gives this dork the right to usurp the law? HIS own authority? Another example of selective enforcement. Laws mean nothing these days—just ask the bondholders of GM.

We’re under tyranny.


5 posted on 10/26/2009 10:26:22 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Racer1
Pot does nothing to reduce pain.

I don't think anyone claims it does. The medical claims are that it reduces nausea and increases appetite. Both of these claims seem to be true.

6 posted on 10/26/2009 10:30:07 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: presidio9

Two words:
States Rights.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 10:31:00 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Pot is a violation of federal law. Whatever happened to state sovereignty? Is that just a quaint little outdated concept now?
8 posted on 10/26/2009 10:31:06 AM PDT by around the world
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But, duuude, the 'end-of-life counseling' goes sooo much smoother if they are loaded...

/sarc

9 posted on 10/26/2009 10:31:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: presidio9

The author has clearly not tried it as a specific for nausea. It’s excellent.

Kinda hard to get well when you’re constantly tossing your cookies.


10 posted on 10/26/2009 10:32:14 AM PDT by jimt
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Some in Arcata California are wondering.

Pot City, USA
http://www.tsblogs.com/cheaperthantherapy/2009/10/pot_city.html


11 posted on 10/26/2009 10:36:18 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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Kinda hard to get well when you’re constantly tossing your cookies.

Not to mention the pills that are supposed to be helping you get well.

The War on Some Drugs is an even bigger insult to our intelligence.

12 posted on 10/26/2009 10:41:04 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: presidio9

Dude. Where is my government provided weed? Man, I thought the stimulus was going to mail me some, man.


13 posted on 10/26/2009 10:41:06 AM PDT by dancusa (Czars Czuck)
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To: Racer1

I used to agree with you 100% about this.

However, after “research”, I have to disagree with you. Here’s why:

Pot exists in hundreds, if not thousands, of differant strains. Back when I used to smoke regularly in my youth, I had a really bad injury, and I thought I’d try to smoke to see if it would help the pain diminish. It had the exact *opposite* effect - it seems like I was very much in touch with my body, and the pain was actually amplified!

At that point right there, I said “ok, this whole thing about medicenal pot is bullcrap”, and thought that it was all just a bunch of crap to try to get pot legalized from people who want to party it up (and I still think that’s a driving force for legalization, btw.)

However! Not so long ago, I had been complaining to a friend of mine about how sore I get after working out at the gym... I’ve been lifting kind of heavy and when the day ends, I’m so sore that I literally have trouble getting up a flight of stairs. My buddy said, “here, try *this*, this is what they use for pain control in Europe.”

I was very skepticial from my previous experiance, but I said, Ok, sure, I’ll try it.

I’ll be damned if the pain wasn’t totally gone in about ten minutes. So I told my buddy about this and he was the one that told me that differant strains of the plant have differant properties. Some of the strains are great for pain management, he tells me, and some of them are great for other things. There is one strain that supposedly gives people with MS a great degree of relief. Some strains make you insanely hungry... and some strains actually dull your appitite.

Bottom line is, I used to agree with you and think that “pot” is more or less all the same, and that this whole “medical pot” thing is bullcrap to try to get people to legalize a narcotic. But I honestly really feel that there is something to pot having certain medicinal effects depending on the strain.

The problem, the way that I see it, is that suddenly you will see a HUGE influx of kids in thier late teens and early 20s suddenly running to the doctor with “sudden depression” or whatever ailment that they can fake to get a script for the government dope. I honestly can’t think of a way to get around that, and that’s one of the reasons that I’m still on the fence about whether legalization is good or not.

There are certain forms of ailments that are TREMENDOUSLY benefited from pot! MS, epilepsy, and there is argueably no better treatment for nausea. It is, in my eyes, no differant then smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol. Legalizing it, however, might pave the way for the legalization of harder drugs, and I feel that legalizing things like cocaine or heroin is just about the stupidest thing that a society can do to itself.


14 posted on 10/26/2009 10:41:28 AM PDT by Ueriah
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Medical marijuana is an insult to our intelligence

Just make it completely legal and let people grow it in their gardens.
15 posted on 10/26/2009 10:42:36 AM PDT by mysterio
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Yes, more loved ones die from big pharmo-corpo-nazi-whore-machine drugs everyday.

That's my pet peeve, as they killed a family member of mine, I'll carry that grudge to the grave and beyond, you flock of seagull melon thumpers(Pulp Fiction ref.).

States Rights, I like that, yellow dent #2 corn for ethanol can't hold a sausage scented candle to the fuel value available from industrial hemp.

It used to be illegal "not" to grow it.

Not to mention the seed oil is as close to a perfect amino acid profile for human nutrition as can be found.

16 posted on 10/26/2009 10:47:41 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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What gets me is CA Arnold taliking about tax revenue from “medical marijuana.”

If it’s really medical, what the hell are they taxing it for? This is lunacy!


17 posted on 10/26/2009 10:47:46 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: mysterio

Exactly. Med marijuana although useful is a ruse. If you’re going to legalize it than do it.


18 posted on 10/26/2009 10:49:23 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: Racer1
Are you a Dr?
...The many beneficial aspects of cannabis are not a new discovery—the plant has a long tradition in medicine that originated in oriental and Middle Eastern countries. The Chinese documented its medicinal value more than 4,000 years ago, using seeds, leaves and sap as sedatives or painkillers and to treat fevers, nausea and ulcers. Ancient herbalists made unguents for burns and other wounds from its roots. Galen, and other physicians of the classical and Hellenistic eras, also noted cannabis as a remedy, and the Arabs started using the plant as early as the mid-1200s. Although there is evidence of cannabis use in Europe from the thirteenth century, after Marco Polo returned from his journey to the east in 1297, its medical use became more popular in the nineteenth century, when the British physician William B. O'Shaugnessy brought back an account of the remarkable effects of this plant from India. Even Queen Victoria is said to have sipped marijuana tea prescribed by her court physician to treat menstrual cramps. Such anecdotal claims of the healing properties of cannabis are now supported by modern research on the metabolism of cannabinoids—the active components of the plant—and their potential use in medicine. The plant contains more than 60 active compounds, of which the most psychoactive ingredient is Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), which was first identified in the 1940s and first synthesized in 1965. THC mainly recognizes a receptor of the central nervous system called CB1, the cannabinoid receptor, which is involved in the regulation of synaptic transmission of excitatory and inhibitory neural circuits. Dronabinol, a synthetic form of THC, was approved by the US Food and Drug Administration to stimulate the appetite of AIDS patients and to treat their anorexia and associated weight loss. The same drug has been indicated for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy. Cannabis also helps in the treatment of patients suffering from glaucoma, one of the most common causes of blindness, by reducing fluid pressure in the eye.
Does marijuana have a future in pharmacopoeia?
19 posted on 10/26/2009 10:49:32 AM PDT by luckybogey
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Legalizing it, however, might pave the way for the legalization of harder drugs, and I feel that legalizing things like cocaine or heroin is just about the stupidest thing that a society can do to itself.


Not that I am advocating the legalization of hard drugs, but they used to be legal. Was our society on the verge of crumbling before it was realized that these drugs where the cause? Why didn't the individual states decide it for themselves?
20 posted on 10/26/2009 10:53:09 AM PDT by IronKros (The pig put foot. Grunt. Foot in what? ketchup)
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