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Surveillance Nation (Once you’ve created big brother state, it’s very to dismantle it).
Human Events ^ | 10/27/2009 | Alexander Deane

Posted on 10/28/2009 8:01:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I’ve written previously on HUMAN EVENTS about the state of Big Brother Britain, and things are only getting worse.

News broke this week that the police have a series of databases recording the personal details of thousands of people who attend protests or rallies, which are searchable by a number of officers and come complete with color photographs assembled and printed onto “spotter cards” which are then distributed to enable agencies to monitor attendees at events. Cost of this part of the surveillance state alone? Over nine million pounds.

Moreover, we have the most CCTV of any country, we have the world’s biggest DNA database, and we have a “Regulation of Investigatory Powers” Act which empowers councils to carry out covert surveillance of people -- legislation which was introduced to be used sparingly in serious cases such as organized crime and terrorism and is instead now regularly used for investigating noise pollution, school catchment areas, fly-tipping (i.e. dropping garbage), dog fouling. Certainly, these things ought ideally to be policed, but do we need to empower hundreds of agencies with secret powers to do so? To give you a sense of the scale of this surveillance, consider over 500,000 such covert investigations took place last year alone.

Now, it seems that the U.S. is thinking about following our example. The people of the good city of Atlanta are currently debating the installation of an additional 500 -- yes, 500 -- CCTV cameras. Remembering the amusingly disastrous Guardian precedent of Brits offering our American friends advice during the 2004 Presidential election, I merely hope that those in charge of the decision-making will note that

* Cameras are often turned off or not working, as happened in an unpleasant beating in Somerset in the U.K., or in Delhi (where all 27 cameras supposedly watching the site in question were non-functioning) -- which is much worse than them simply not being there, as law enforcement becomes dependent on an unreliable resource.

* The quality of footage is often such that courts cannot use it.

* Research indicates that crime is not driven down by the presence of CCTV as confirmed by London’s Metropolitan Police report this year, which stated that one crime per year was solved per thousand camera.

* The public purse offers finite resources, and money spent in this way is money that cannot be spent on other forms of policing, such as officers on the street.

* There are obvious privacy issues which usually go ignored, but shouldn’t.

So -- pause before following our example. Once you’ve created the surveillance state, it’s very, very hard to dismantle it.

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Mr. Deane is the Director of Big Brother Watch and a former chief of staff to David Cameron MP in the United Kingdom.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; surveillance

1 posted on 10/28/2009 8:01:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

(Once you’ve created big brother state, it’s very to dismantle it).

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2 posted on 10/28/2009 8:03:33 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ruger 10/22, match barrell, Gemtech suppressor, Norrell trigger pack.....bye bye camera.


3 posted on 10/28/2009 8:06:28 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

-THE “G” BLOGS ~ Gunny G Online -
“A CONSTITUTION OF GOVERNMENT ONCE CHANGED FROM FREEDOM, CAN NEVER BE RESTORED. LIBERTY, ONCE LOST, IS LOST FOREVER.” ~JOHN ADAMS*****”I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT EXTREMISM IN THE DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE! AND LET ME REMIND YOU ALSO THAT MODERATION IN THE PURSUIT OF JUSTICE IS NO VIRTUE!” ~ BARRY GOLDWATER*****
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4 posted on 10/28/2009 8:09:36 AM PDT by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'en Commie Basterd!)
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To: DCBryan1

I was thinking paintballs.


5 posted on 10/28/2009 8:10:48 AM PDT by magslinger (No matter how bad it gets, no matter what happens... don't let them eat my dog.)
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To: DCBryan1

That fast little .17 Hornady Magnum round probably doe a number on a camera, too! ;-)


6 posted on 10/28/2009 8:13:37 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: DCBryan1

7.62x54r from about 2 counties over. Even if you miss, the shockwave will knock out the camera.


7 posted on 10/28/2009 8:19:45 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: DCBryan1

As long as there’s no camera pointed at the camera, what’s wrong with a baseball bat?


8 posted on 10/28/2009 8:41:08 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: SeekAndFind
So true, my friends.
9 posted on 10/28/2009 10:24:22 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: green iguana

They install these things in inaccessible places.


10 posted on 10/28/2009 10:27:21 AM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am convinced that human nature is such that freedom has zero chance to flourish in other than in very thinly populated areas and probably not even there once technology reaches a certain level. Any technological advance will be seized upon by the power grabbers who would rather ruin someone else’s day than spend their own day in paradise.

If a tick hass thoughts I am sure that he imagines himself to be serving some great purpose for which he and none other is destined, to admit that he is a useless blood sucker who makes others miserable while being incapable of doing anything positive even for himself would be too much to face. We have far too many human ticks on the Earth.


11 posted on 10/28/2009 12:38:44 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: gunnyg

great quotes bump!!!


12 posted on 10/28/2009 7:51:30 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Go ahead, call me a racist...One more time...)
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To: kennyboy509

reference #3...


13 posted on 10/28/2009 7:52:41 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Go ahead, call me a racist...One more time...)
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