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Radical imam killed in FBI raid in U.S.; Ontario residents sought
The Toronto Star ^ | Oct 28, 2009 | Star staff

Posted on 10/28/2009 5:46:37 PM PDT by fanfan

DETROIT–A man described as a leader of a radical Sunni Islam group in the U.S. was fatally shot this afternoon while resisting arrest and exchanging gunfire with federal agents, authorities said.

Agents at a warehouse in Dearborn were trying to arrest Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, on charges that included conspiracy to sell stolen goods and illegal possession and sale of firearms. Ten followers listed in a criminal complaint were also being rounded up in the area.

Three – Mujahid Carswell, 30, Mohammad Alsahi, 33, and Yassir Ali Khan, 30 – are Ontario residents, the FBI said in a release.

Abdullah refused to surrender, fired a weapon and was killed by gunfire from agents, FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold said.

In a court filing, the FBI said Abdullah, also known as Christopher Thomas, was an imam of a Black Muslim radical group named Ummah whose primary mission is to establish an Islamic state within the United States.

No one was charged with terrorism. But Abdullah was "advocating and encouraging his followers to commit violent acts against the United States," FBI agent Gary Leone said in an affidavit.

"He regularly preaches anti-government and anti-law enforcement rhetoric," Leone said. "Abdullah and his followers have trained regularly in the use of firearms, and continue to train in martial arts and sword fighting."

Leone said members of the national group mostly are black and some converted to Islam while in prisons across the United States.

"Abdullah preaches that every Muslim should have a weapon, and should not be scared to use their weapon when needed," Leone wrote.

It was not immediately clear how many of the other 10 suspects were in custody.

The group believes that a separate Islamic state in the U.S. would be controlled by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown, who is serving a life sentence in a federal prison in Colorado for shooting two police officers in Georgia in 2000, Leone said. Al-Amin, a veteran of the black power movement, started the group after he converted to Islam in prison.

"They're not taking their cues from overseas," said Jimmy Jones, a professor of world religions at Manhattanville College and a longtime Muslim prison chaplain. "This group is very much American born and bred."

The movement at one time was believed to include a couple of dozen mosques around the country. Ummah is now dwarfed in numbers and influence by other African-American Muslim groups, particularly the mainstream Sunnis who were led by Imam W.D. Mohammed, who recently died.

By evening, authorities still were working the scene near the Detroit-Dearborn border and the warehouse was surrounded by police tape.

The U.S. attorney's office said an FBI dog was also killed during the shootout.

Abdullah's mosque is in a brick duplex on a quiet, residential street in Detroit. A sign on the door in English and Arabic reads, in part, "There is no God but Allah."

Several men congregated on the porch Wednesday night and subsequently attacked a photographer from The Detroit News who was taking pictures from across the street. Ricardo Thomas had his camera equipment smashed and had a bloody lip from the attack.

Imad Hamad, regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Dearborn, said the FBI had briefed him about Wednesday's raids and told him they were the result of a two-year investigation.

"We know that this is not something to be projected as something against Muslims," Hamad said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 10/28/2009 5:46:37 PM PDT by fanfan
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To: Cindy; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Squawk 8888; headsonpikes; AntiKev; Snowyman; ...

Canada ping.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 5:47:42 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan
Well, now - I call that a good start.
3 posted on 10/28/2009 5:47:45 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: fanfan

Sounds like a good start


4 posted on 10/28/2009 5:48:00 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: fanfan

“H. Rap Brown”

Wow.....There’s a blast from the past.....

Thanks for the North Of The Border Update....


5 posted on 10/28/2009 5:49:41 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: grobdriver

A bunch of them are missing.


6 posted on 10/28/2009 5:49:59 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

it’s about time something is being done - it’s only going to get worse...


7 posted on 10/28/2009 5:51:27 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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To: fanfan
A couple of the people arrested were from Canada, also with the recent raid at the meat plant in Illinois, I wonder if they are connected.
8 posted on 10/28/2009 5:52:23 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: fanfan

The title is totally off the mark.


9 posted on 10/28/2009 5:52:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (I'm not for Newt. He's a N0-Brainer these days)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I suspect that the Windsor-Detroit border could use a few patriots.


10 posted on 10/28/2009 5:54:35 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

TROP


11 posted on 10/28/2009 5:55:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: fanfan
"Abdullah preaches that every Muslim should have a weapon, and should not be scared to use their weapon when needed,"

I agree with this, and I think that every US citizen should have the right to use their weapon when confronted with muslims too.

This one turned out great! A good muzzie is a room temp muzzie....

12 posted on 10/28/2009 5:58:02 PM PDT by libs_kma (If you RAM it down our throats in 2009, we're going to SHOVE it up your @$$ in 2010!!!!!)
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To: fanfan

Dear Dirty Moslems,

The humans are coming to get you.

We bring gifts of bacon.

Run and hide. Perhaps your moon god will protect you.


13 posted on 10/28/2009 5:59:04 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: fanfan

I just cleaned my handgun.


14 posted on 10/28/2009 6:00:54 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: fanfan

birds of a feather flock together...there’s more.


15 posted on 10/28/2009 6:03:46 PM PDT by JamesA (Life is a adventure and RANGERS still lead the way.)
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To: fanfan
HAPPY DANCE Pictures, Images and Photos
16 posted on 10/28/2009 6:03:48 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: al baby; grobdriver

You stomp on one cock roach, the rest go into hiding.


17 posted on 10/28/2009 6:03:48 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

Patriot missiles?

;-)


18 posted on 10/28/2009 6:05:48 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: fanfan
No one was charged with terrorism. But Abdullah was "advocating and encouraging his followers to commit violent acts against the United States," FBI agent Gary Leone said in an affidavit.

Terrorism = racist "teabaggers" clinging to their Bibles, Guns and the US Constitution.. (per DHS)

19 posted on 10/28/2009 6:06:13 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: fanfan

I’m sure that Eugene Robinson will shortly have a column in defense of these poor, oppressed, innocent Black men. How can America be so cruel?


20 posted on 10/28/2009 6:06:55 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: fanfan

Tonight, I swear to every Freeper that when I’m out for drinks at midnight, I will order a shot of bacon-flavored vodka, and drink that verboten alcohol/BACON mixture as I toast the shooting of that dirty moslem.


21 posted on 10/28/2009 6:07:27 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: opentalk

See post #23 on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2372017/posts?page=23#23

I don’t know if it’s related.

(Their cells don’t communicate?)


22 posted on 10/28/2009 6:09:49 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Paladin2

How?


23 posted on 10/28/2009 6:10:34 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Springman

*HUG*

You and yours stay safe, eh?


24 posted on 10/28/2009 6:12:52 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Sure, but test them southern Texas first, OK?


25 posted on 10/28/2009 6:14:47 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan
So could kansas city, kansas
26 posted on 10/28/2009 6:16:47 PM PDT by x_plus_one (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: fanfan
It's about Black Native American fake Islamists. The dog shooter is was a criminal leader, not a real Jihadist. The Canadian part makes it sound like it involves Canuckistan Immigrants of the Jihadi persuasion (like the guy headed to bomb the Needle or whatever it was). Just totally making it out to be Saudi Arabian Wahhabist stuff when it is old fashioned, American as Cherry Pie, Calypso Louie stuff taken to extreme.
27 posted on 10/28/2009 6:19:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (I'm not for Newt. He's a N0-Brainer these days)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; All

Surreal, isn’t it?

Have a good night.


28 posted on 10/28/2009 6:20:01 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Springman

You’re gonna need more than that.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 6:25:13 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: fanfan
"DETROIT–A man described as a leader of a radical Sunni Islam group in the U.S. was fatally shot this afternoon... "

Well, that's a good start...

30 posted on 10/28/2009 6:26:38 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Islam=Murder
Have a second shot on me.

Then lock n load. Ya never know.

31 posted on 10/28/2009 6:27:20 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: fanfan

Great idea......


32 posted on 10/28/2009 6:30:01 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: fanfan
It’s a damn shame that a FBI dog was lost during this confrontation.
33 posted on 10/28/2009 6:32:39 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: fanfan

I feel bad about that poor dog.


34 posted on 10/28/2009 6:35:24 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Islam=Murder

Bacon-flavored vodka? Is it possible?


35 posted on 10/28/2009 6:39:18 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: Paladin2
H Rap Brown, these guys' hero, served as an official in Al Abdurahman Amoudi's Hamas-linked group the AMC:

JULY 2002 + / - : (SAMI AL ARIAN IS CHAIRMAN OF THE NCPPF; A LEADING MEMBER OF NCPPF IS ABDURAHMAN ALAMOUDI'S GROUP THE AMC) [Sami] Al-Arian is [as of July 2002] also chairman of the National Coalition for the Protection of Political Freedom (NCPPF), a legal-aid group based in New York for U.S. and foreign terrorist causes (see "Domestic Front in the War on Terror," December 17, 2001). [Abdurahman] Alamoudi's AMC is a leading member of the NCPPF. -- "Supporters of Hamas and Hezbollah File Suit Against Bush," by Michael Waller, Insight on the News, July 17, 2002; 23 posted on 11/01/2004 9:52:04 PM PST by piasa
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* Kit Gage : NCPPF (National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom) Executive Director . He is [as of March 10, 2003] a veteran legal activist, serving also as head of the National Lawyers Guild, founded in the 1930s and officially cited as a legal front group for the old Communist Party. -------------"Undermining war on terror : Muslim groups weakening fed laws under guise of protecting civil liberties," World Net Daily, March 10, 2003]

36 posted on 10/28/2009 6:48:35 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: fanfan

One down....


37 posted on 10/28/2009 6:56:47 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: piasa
H Rap Brown, these guys' hero, served as an official in Al Abdurahman Amoudi's Hamas-linked group the AMC

These same Ammadiya Muslim Council knuckleheads have been trying for 2 years to convert a 224 acre farm in rural Maryland for use of 10000 of their members. They also want to build a 40,000 square feet Mosque and "Teaching Center" which will blast this call to prayer crap over the countryside 5 times a day. Turn up your volume so your neighbors can hear, then click on link.

38 posted on 10/28/2009 7:19:27 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: fanfan
Several men congregated on the porch Wednesday night and subsequently attacked a photographer from The Detroit News who was taking pictures from across the street. Ricardo Thomas had his camera equipment smashed and had a bloody lip from the attack.

It's not over yet.

39 posted on 10/28/2009 8:51:55 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: fanfan

Just heard on local TV news, one got caught in Windsor. Still looking for two others.


40 posted on 10/29/2009 1:15:57 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He was able to pull out the memory card, the pic was on the front page of the Detroit News today.


41 posted on 10/29/2009 1:18:23 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: Springman

Thanks Springman.


42 posted on 10/29/2009 1:28:57 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Springman
I just cleaned my handgun.

Yep, me too.......but risking being flamed, this group is nothing more than a bunch of radical blacks from the inner city being led by an even more radical ex-con trying to make a buck from his pseudo muslim posse' by wearing a rag on his head and preaching hate......

Nothing has changed between the radical black muslims of the '60s and this group other than the ability to take advantage of today's more liberal stance against such radicalism especially when it deals with "alleged" muslims.......

If anything good comes out of this it will be the true muslim population of S.E. Michigan speaking out against this attrocity of their religion. They have to if they wish to maintain any credibility with the rest of us civilized Christians..........

43 posted on 10/29/2009 2:18:31 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
If anything good comes out of this it will be the true muslim population of S.E. Michigan speaking out against this attrocity of their religion. They have to if they wish to maintain any credibility with the rest of us civilized Christians..........

Don't hold your breath infidel.

44 posted on 10/30/2009 9:56:08 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
If anything good comes out of this it will be the true muslim population of S.E. Michigan speaking out against this attrocity of their religion. They have to if they wish to maintain any credibility with the rest of us civilized Christians..........

Don't hold your breath infidel.

45 posted on 10/30/2009 9:56:08 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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