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FBI: Radical Islamist Group Ruled by Inmate in "Supermax" Jail
The Weekly Standard ^ | October 29, 2009 | John McCormack

Posted on 10/30/2009 8:22:07 AM PDT by opentalk

From the FBI press release on last night’s Dearborn, MI raid-turned-shootout that left radical Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah, aka Christopher Thomas dead:

Abdullah was the leader of part of a group that calls themselves Ummah (“the brotherhood”), a group of mostly African-American converts to Islam, which seeks to establish a separate Sharia-law governed state within the United States. The Ummah is ruled by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rapp Brown, who is serving a state sentence in USP Florence, CO, ADMAX, for the murder of two police officers in Georgia.

Interesting to note the active tense used in the release. The use of the phrase “is ruled” should raise an eyebrow or two for those following the debate over where to relocate the terrorists currently housed at Gitmo. Two of the most mentioned locations being considered by the Obama administration are the federal prison in Standish, Michigan and the federal Administrative Maximum (aka “Supermax”) prison in Florence, Colorado. One of the left’s core arguments in the debate rests on the belief that the security provided by such a facility would render Gitmo’s terrorists totally unable to organize and convert fellow prisoners eager to learn from the jihad-masters.

In this case, not only did a domestic Islamic terrorist organization arise from within the walls of our prison system, but the “Supermax” facility currently serves as the headquarters for this radical group.

It appears FBI Director Robert Mueller’s “relevant concerns” about bringing Gitmo’s terrorists to the United States are not so far-fetched after all.

So far as we know, no terror cells are currently being run from inside Guantanamo.


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Reasons not to close Gitmo, Keep jihad terrorists off US soil.
1 posted on 10/30/2009 8:22:08 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
formerly known as H. Rapp Brown

That's a blast from the past. I can't believe that little sh*t is still alive.

2 posted on 10/30/2009 8:24:31 AM PDT by Recon Dad (SSGT O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 10 getting to FOB)
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To: opentalk

“The Ummah is ruled by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rapp Brown, who is serving a state sentence in USP Florence, CO, ADMAX, for the murder of two police officers in Georgia.”

Why have jails/prisons if these inmates can “rule” an uprising or radical group from inside??

Solitary for these dudes, or is that cruel and unusual?


3 posted on 10/30/2009 8:25:00 AM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: opentalk

I wonder how this is possible. Is this guy getting contraband cell phones and the like?


4 posted on 10/30/2009 8:29:34 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Recon Dad

Yea, man, far out.


5 posted on 10/30/2009 8:30:08 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: opentalk

Exactly.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 8:32:14 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: opentalk

That really is a blast from the past.

I’m surprised that Eric Holder is letting the FBI arrest these people. There must be a few people left in the agency who are more concerned about doing their duty than pleasing their Master, since there has been quite a lot of this sort of activity in the past couple of months.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 8:33:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: opentalk

“State Department: Gitmo Detainees Are “Refugees””

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2367536/posts


8 posted on 10/30/2009 8:34:40 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: opentalk

Who’s surprised here? Better to deport the whole lot of them.


9 posted on 10/30/2009 8:35:21 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: opentalk

Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin (جميل عبد الله الامين) (Born October 4, 1943, as Hubert Gerold Brown), also known as H. Rap Brown, came to prominence in the 1960s as chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and later the Justice Minister of the Black Panther Party. He is perhaps most famous for his proclamation during that period that "violence is as American as cherry pie", as well as once stating that "If America don't come around, we're gonna burn it down". He is currently serving a life sentence for homicide.

10 posted on 10/30/2009 8:36:20 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: opentalk
H. Rapp Brown??? I haven't heard that name in twenty years.

I thought somebody had snuffed that scumbag.

11 posted on 10/30/2009 8:39:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: opentalk

He spent five years (1971–1976) in the Attica Prison after a robbery conviction. While in prison, Brown converted to Islam and changed his name to Jamil Abdullah al-Amin. After his release, he opened a grocery store in Atlanta, Georgia and became a Muslim spiritual leader and community activist preaching against drugs and gambling in Atlanta's West End neighborhood.

He also became the leader of Ummah, "a group of mostly African-American converts to Islam, which seeks to establish a separate Sharia-law governed state within the United States."

12 posted on 10/30/2009 8:40:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: opentalk

I don’t mind him being on US soil. I mind him being above it.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 8:40:47 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: opentalk

I hate to say this but right after 9/11, the fact that so many inmates get converted to Islam brought some concern. This could be where the next “civil war” may come from...horrible to contemplate...got to buy more ammo...just saying...


14 posted on 10/30/2009 8:43:03 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: opentalk

Brown was young and angry. He wrote in Die Nigger Die (H. Rapp Brown’s book) that President Lyndon Johnson was an “ugly m-—— f-——.”


15 posted on 10/30/2009 8:43:55 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Recon Dad

Is H. Rapp Brown a FOO? a FOWA?


16 posted on 10/30/2009 8:44:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Democrats scare me, the GOP infuriates me.")
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To: pnh102

Hey, remember the nurse killer, Richard Speck, was getting a sex-change operation while in prison, paid by the tax payer, when he died. How about giving the tax payers a break by cutting that s**t out?


17 posted on 10/30/2009 8:45:15 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Recon Dad
"formerly known as H. Rapp Brown That's a blast from the past. I can't believe that little sh*t is still alive."

Hmmmm. Me too. A Black Panther punk from the 60's.

H Rap Brown photo 1967

18 posted on 10/30/2009 8:45:51 AM PDT by blam
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To: choctaw man
You might like seeing this: http://tinyurl.com/ykqdmsm

From the Free Jamil al Amin/H. Rap Brown facebook page. date 2/21/09

As many of you may have heard, Jamil Al-Amin has been moved to what is known in prison as "the hole". He was strip searched and placed in a cell with no bed, no control over the lights and no shower. They have taken his Qur'an and all of his other personal property. No information has been given as to why this transfer was made, but nothing could justify this inhumane treatment.

19 posted on 10/30/2009 8:45:56 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: opentalk

some call them heroes.


20 posted on 10/30/2009 8:46:58 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: choctaw man

better linky:

http://tinyurl.com/ykqdmsm


21 posted on 10/30/2009 8:47:02 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: choctaw man
Solitary for these dudes, or is that cruel and unusual?

Pro'ly in the eyes of a liberal judge, but note the operative word in that clause is "and." Cruel it might be but is it unusual too? If not, the clause doesn't fit. No such thing as a cruel or unusual clause. Let's get more of these punishments usual.

22 posted on 10/30/2009 8:47:03 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Democrats scare me, the GOP infuriates me.")
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To: kcvl
1) chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee

2) "violence is as American as cherry pie"

Say WHAT????

23 posted on 10/30/2009 8:47:48 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: opentalk

24 posted on 10/30/2009 8:54:54 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Recon Dad

Hmm, I wonder if good ole H. Rap ever crossed paths with Bill Ayers, or any of the other wonderful Obozo cronies? Just a thought.


25 posted on 10/30/2009 8:57:08 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama will dispatch skittle $hitting unicorns around the world to bring peace and prosperity to all!)
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To: opentalk
We’ve already had prisoners in Supermax giving out plans smuggled out through their treasonous lawyers. The punishment for treason in war and enemies of the state should be quick execution after trial.
26 posted on 10/30/2009 9:01:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: a fool in paradise

Interesting, wasn’t the leader of the recent Islam prayer gather In DC a terrorist lawyer. His Facebook said they wanted to islaminize democracy.


27 posted on 10/30/2009 9:08:51 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Cicero

Don’t let Holder know he’s in prison or he’ll retroactively drop the charges.


28 posted on 10/30/2009 9:10:14 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: choctaw man

watched National geographic and other channels who have shown prisons and all of them are ruled by the inmates not the guards..

They have the room to walk around , to mix etc.

It is high time that the wardens take back the prisons and stop letting gangs run them.


29 posted on 10/30/2009 9:11:02 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: opentalk
The essential difference between Gitmo and any US prison, is that Gitmo prisoners are not allowed to send communications to anybody.

Once they are in the US, they will have Constitutional rights, among them to communicate to their lawyers, who in turn can pass communications to others.

30 posted on 10/30/2009 9:11:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: choctaw man

no not cruel.

put them in a call with no interaction for the rest of their miserable lives.

course I expect the lefty lunatics again complain about how the civil rights is being ignored

well sorry lefty loon as far as I am concerned when you kill someone you take their civil rights away thus you should have yours taken away so cut the wishy washy lefty crap


31 posted on 10/30/2009 9:13:58 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: opentalk

There are probably allot more of these types already on our streets.


32 posted on 10/30/2009 9:15:46 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Dinah Lord

He should be put to sleep.


33 posted on 10/30/2009 9:24:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: opentalk
Brown hates America and signs up for whatever today's "thing" happens to be. When the Black Panthers were the vehicle where he was best able to express that rage he was a member. Now they're largely defunct and Islam is the current vehicle for attacks on America, he's become a Muslim. He'll sign up for anything as long as professes hate for America and wants to destroy it. Islam is simply the "weapon of choice".

He's a man who is full of hate as witnessed by the way he executed the cop who served him with a warrant.

34 posted on 10/30/2009 9:28:54 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: potlatch




35 posted on 10/30/2009 9:31:44 AM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Hey - Know what? I'd like a bigger butt!" . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: opentalk
serving a state sentence...murder of two police officers in Georgia

This is why we have the death penalty.
36 posted on 10/30/2009 9:33:40 AM PDT by BJClinton (Any "healthcare reform" without tort reform is a fraud.)
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To: Recon Dad

No Doubt a blast from the past, hiding under a muzzie name and running an organized crime family from a supermax prison cell. Well, ah’ll be. H. Rap Brown. Former Black Panther big wig? Buddy of people like Ayers and Dorn?


37 posted on 10/30/2009 9:34:11 AM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Batman11

HE was part of the “Student Non Violent Coordinating Committee”. I’m almost positive that that became the Students for a Democratic Society and the Weathermen.


38 posted on 10/30/2009 9:36:52 AM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Those lawyers can go to jail too.


39 posted on 10/30/2009 9:38:09 AM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: ichabod1

Why can’t we run our supermax prisons like the Japanese run their medium security prisons......


40 posted on 10/30/2009 9:39:06 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

AHey, they like to hold up Mexico as an example of humane treatment because they don’t have the death penalty, lets do it like them. No, because then if you have enough money you can break oout.


41 posted on 10/30/2009 9:40:10 AM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Recon Dad

H. Rapp Brown
That’s a blast from the past.

+1


42 posted on 10/30/2009 9:54:17 AM PDT by Canedawg (Sometimes we live no particular way but our own)
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To: choctaw man
Solitary for these dudes, or is that cruel and unusual?

Better yet, how about a firing squad with 6 shells x 25 cents, equals $1.50 to rid the planet & the U.S. of these vermin. They can get an early trip to their 75 muzzie virgins.

43 posted on 10/30/2009 9:58:37 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: opentalk

Only a traitor RAT would want to bring these terrorists into the U.S. Ya payin tenchin??


44 posted on 10/30/2009 10:03:06 AM PDT by Waco (Kiss an illegal aliens' axx and buckle yer seat belt, it's the law.)
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To: opentalk; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; blam; SunkenCiv; BOBTHENAILER; ...
Reasons not to close Gitmo, Keep jihad terrorists off US soil.

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Absolutely Right....We need Gitmo and the rules of Enforcement there !

45 posted on 10/30/2009 10:06:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: kcvl
It underscores the idea that the Saudis had watched the Commies and found that the Black community could be used for their own purposes as far back as the 70’s. It makes sense that they were funding Barry a few years later during his college/law school days. Sirhan Sirhan should have been a real wake-up call to our entire country.
46 posted on 10/30/2009 10:24:17 AM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep.

IIRC, the Feds are trying to “jam” cell phones in the prisons. They realize that many inmates have them and are continuing to run their criminal enterprises from inside prison. Imho, day late, dollar short, but better late than never.


47 posted on 10/30/2009 10:30:42 AM PDT by khnyny (Too much power in too few hands is never a good thing.)
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To: opentalk

Why would a black man in jail or otherwise want to be a muslim and attack the only country that has given them a home in the best nation on the planet?


48 posted on 10/30/2009 10:33:46 AM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp

H. Rapp is still rappin from Supermax. So yeah, what a great idea, send in a bunch of jihadis so they can morse code each other all night and day.

Would love to see a “sanctioned escape from Gitmo” happen about twice a week. 10-15 Jihadi’s on a leaky raft, trailing blood and chum in that area’s Sharks of Allah waters.


49 posted on 10/30/2009 10:35:48 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (The Obamanistas' are out to GIT YOU , and get you they will--unless----)
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To: Recon Dad

You are so right. Haven’t heard that name in decades!


50 posted on 10/30/2009 10:38:38 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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