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Commercial Real-Estate Crush, The Next Crisis Not to Be Wasted?
market oracle. ^ | Oct 29, 2009 | Matthew_J_Novak

Posted on 10/31/2009 11:30:08 AM PDT by george76

As I walked home recently from a weekend trip to the grocery store, I passed a total of 13 vacant offices with signs saying "for lease" or "for sale." These spaces ranged from approximately 500 to 5,000 square feet according to their signs, and they are stretched along a main, commercial street in the center of Tucson, AZ. There is also an eight-screen movie theater that sits empty as well.

These empty commercial spaces ... are empty now, and have been for quite some time.

I found it intriguing that both in the central portion of Tucson and also in a further northwest section (towards the suburbs) of town, the commercial real estate "vacancy density" was about the same.

What if I were an economic advisor in the current Obama administration? What if I were charged to provide statistical evidence supporting the conclusion that we are in the midst of the next crisis that can't "go to waste?"

some groups and individuals are losing a lot of money right now.

there are government economic advisors, who at this very moment are detailing the commercial-real-estate issue to support President Obama's plan to provide the Federal Reserve with more supervisory and regulatory powers.

The threat of multiple trillion-dollar commercial-real-estate write downs is just the kind of crisis that the folks in our government and at the Federal Reserve need to help them rob the American citizenry. Just think of it: irrational exuberance funded by the Fed and soon to be backed by the full faith and credit of the US government.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketoracle.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bailout; bailouts; bhoeconomy; commercial; crisis; economy; fed; federalreserve; rahm; realestate; refinancing; thecomingdepression
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1 posted on 10/31/2009 11:30:09 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Fed issued a statement yesterday that there will be no support programs for commercial real estate mortgages. Last 12 mos CRE prices down over 30%.

Right now our economy has overcapacity in every sector. Look out below.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 11:34:53 AM PDT by mynameisjohngalt
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You wouldn’t believe the empty commercial space in Dallas. Lots of room for those out of state businesses wanting to save some scratch.


3 posted on 10/31/2009 11:36:47 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: george76
The subject of the coming crash in commercial real estate has been discussed on FR for months.

If the RNC had any brains, they'd hire JimRob as a consultant.

4 posted on 10/31/2009 11:37:41 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: george76

It is a product of designed de-industrialization. The economy is being collapsed by the financial oligarchy. The cure is tariffs, not that any controlled media will carry such a message.


5 posted on 10/31/2009 11:41:15 AM PDT by poodle
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6 posted on 10/31/2009 11:41:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: GeronL; neverdem; The Mayor; M. Espinola

Close Up Look at Ugly NYC Commercial Real Estate.

http://dailyreckoning.com/close-up-look-at-ugly-nyc-commercial-real-estate/


7 posted on 10/31/2009 11:43:33 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: mynameisjohngalt

The Fed may have issued a statement but Rahm Emmanuel and Barak-O-Bama, Magic Man, will not let it go to waste.

They are already proposing to make bailouts systemic and automatic. That could bankrupt this country and prop up failing companies at the expense of everyone else.


8 posted on 10/31/2009 11:45:57 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: GeronL

>> You wouldn’t believe the empty commercial space in Dallas.

That’s a depressing indicator whether on Main St. or back in the industrial parks.


9 posted on 10/31/2009 11:48:11 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: george76
My company's lease on its Manhattan office space is up for renewal next year. The management is talking about reducing the size of that office as a cost-cutting measure. I suggested they could keep the same office and negotiate a new lease at a 30% lower rate. They're so used to dealing with escalating lease rates that they considered my suggestion as if I were speaking a foreign language.

Time will tell, I guess.

10 posted on 10/31/2009 12:01:06 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Gene Eric

I live in Sugar Land Texas. Because of the Mall in SL is so full all the time, I counted the stores empty. One empty store in the mall. One store is moving in. Twenty-three stores are “outside” of the mall. 39 Kiosks are occupied and 7 are Empty. The mall is owned and managed by General Growth Properties (GGP) and they are (bankrupt?) or on the verge of bankruptcy because they can not get any bank loans to support their growth. It’s hard to believe that the banks can’t loan this company money.


11 posted on 10/31/2009 12:05:51 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: GeronL

Watch out! You may be inviting moooooore of us Kalifornians.


12 posted on 10/31/2009 12:23:07 PM PDT by wizr (The Bible is the Truth. We just lie to ourselves when we don't want to believe it.)
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As long as they don’t mind living in empty offices


13 posted on 10/31/2009 12:24:57 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: encm(ss)
The problem is they have one mall full and one other is empty. Don't fool yourself about that full mall. Their sales are most likely off 50%. A friend of mine was working the books for this person who owned several buildings that were full. He unloaded them for 12M . They now stand empty. All those people out of work and the landlord has no cash flow.
14 posted on 10/31/2009 12:39:27 PM PDT by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: george76

This is all by design...to “punish” the US for being mean and profitable. To de-industrialize the USA, to turn us into a banana republic and enslaved by Marxism. This shouldn’t be a surprise to those of us who’ve awakened.


15 posted on 10/31/2009 12:46:20 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: george76

I’m negotiating a lease as we speak. It’s funny but landlords around Salt Lake City don’t seem to think they need to negotiate. We’ll see.


16 posted on 10/31/2009 12:53:44 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: poodle

You are probably right. It isn’t unions and regulations, it’s $500 per month or less versus $500 per week wages.

parsy, who thinks we are in for a big change the next few years


17 posted on 10/31/2009 1:15:02 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: GeronL
As long as they don’t mind living in empty offices.

So how does an investor make $$ from the commercial real estate crash? Where do I invest to be a winner when everthing has collapsed then repurchased at 1/2 the old value?

18 posted on 10/31/2009 1:32:13 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: ExtremeUnction

Someone might be able to redevelopment the tall empty buildings into NYC type apartments and mortgage them to those fleeing the taxation and failed economies of LA, Chicago and NYC. Those crazies like tall buildings instead of trees.


19 posted on 10/31/2009 1:44:11 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Alberta's Child

You could show them this loss of 70 percent of value and many empty lots ?

A Guided Tour Of NYC Commercial Real Estate Wreckage

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-guided-tour-of-nyc-commercial-real-estate-wreckage-video-2009-10


20 posted on 10/31/2009 1:58:55 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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