Posted on 11/03/2009 5:04:42 AM PST by tcg
It all comes down The Rule. Thats what I learned Tuesday night during the nationwide webcast hosted by Stop the Abortion Mandate.com. The vote expected this week in Congress is historically critical and its not the vote you might think.
Let me say this as bluntly as I can: The time is NOW. This very minute! If you have not made calls to your Senators and Representatives, if you have not sent e-mails and faxes, this moment in history is calling out to you for action. Do it now.
Nancy Pelosis bill, HR 3962, mandates abortion coverage, plain and simple. The public option plan will be run directly by the federal government. Page 110 of the bill explicitly authorizes the public option to pay for abortions. I read through every page of the bill where the word abortion appeared, and I found a lot of confusing double-speak. Its prohibited here and permitted there...
Abortion proponents want to obscure the fact that the bill allows private insurance plans to receive federal subsidies to cover abortions. In addition to the public option, the bill also ensures that at least one private plan in every area must include abortion coverage, for which they will be subsidized by the federal government via our tax dollars.
Consider this message from Planned Parenthoods President, Cecile Richards to all Planned Parenthood supporters: Because of relentless pressure from dedicated supporters like you, every version of the bills out there right now is free of the dangerous amendments anti-choice members of Congress tried to attach to health care reform
.Tell your representatives to pass this crucial bill intact, and reject efforts to remove reproductive health care from health reform....
(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...
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The abortion provision and all other provisions can be eliminated if people impress upon their politicians any version of federal health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.
Forget stopping an amendment, stop the frickin’ bill altogether.
Words of wisdom. Stopping an amendment will do nothing, they will just add it later.
Stupak has said more than once that if the Hyde language is not adopted to the House bill, he has the pro-life votes to defeat it, and if whatever is sent from the Senate does not include the Hyde language, if indeed the Senate uses that nuclear option, no amendment allowed on the return, simply an up-or-down vote, he and the pro-life contingency in the House will kill it.
They have the votes to do so, whether or not they will stand on principle, I leave it to be seen.
It's really that critical.
Thank you.
“The abortion provision and all other provisions can be eliminated if people impress upon their politicians any version of federal health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.”
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As always, I want to thank you for reaching out to me and sharing your thoughts and concerns on the very important issue of life. As you know, the new health care proposal came out last week and I wanted to provide you with an update on the life issues within the current proposal. I can tell you one thing: the bill takes the wrong approach.
With regard to pro-life issues, the new bill, H.R. 3962, is very similar to the prior bill, H.R. 3200 as it was amended in the Energy and Commerce Committee. Although I am still reviewing the legislation thoroughly, I thought you may be interested in the following important provisions:
Abortion Funding: H.R. 3962 replicates the Capps amendment (an amendment that stated the U.S. Treasury will be permitted to issue checks to abortion clinics to reimburse for abortion on demand for the first time in decades), which passed in the Energy and Commerce Committee. Therefore, it remains true that the bill clearly does not incorporate the Hyde amendment, and instead it accomplishes the opposite of the Hyde amendment. While Hyde prohibits funding for abortion through government programs, the newly created public option will be authorized to pay for abortions. Similarly, while the Hyde amendment prohibits funding for coverage that includes abortion, H.R. 3962 establishes an accounting gimmick to justify subsidizing private plans that cover abortion. This is a very serious problem with the legislation, and I hope to join my pro-life colleagues in an effort to remove this terrible provision.
School Based Health Clinics: A new provision prohibits use of school-based health clinic grants for abortion and defines school based health clinics as clinics that do not perform abortion. However, there is no language regarding abortion referral or facilitating an abortion at another location.
Indian Health: Finally, Division D of H.R. 3962 reauthorizes the Indian Health Service (IHS) without a permanent ban on abortion funding. The Senate passed a ban on abortion funding (Vitter Amendment) in the last Congress, but the House did not consider the bill - reportedly at least in part due to concern that an abortion funding ban might be successfully attached in the House. The language in H.R. 3962 links Indian Health Service (IHS) funding for abortion to the Health and Human Services Appropriations bill for the given year. This arrangement replicates what is currently in law, but does not reflect the Vitter amendment. Therefore, the current bill will only restrict IHS abortion funding if the Hyde amendment is in effect. Once again, you can see how the government is using a backdoor gimmick in order to find a way to have taxpayer dollars go toward funding abortion. I find this extremely dangerous and despicable.
You can be sure I'll continue to oppose these provisions and keep you up to date as the bill moves through debate. Thanks again for contacting me, as I appreciate hearing from you. Please let me know whenever I can be of assistance.
I agree that Aortion shouldn’t be funded in this bill — but the WHOLE bill is the problem. Removing abortion and passing the rest would just gaurantee they’d come back for the rest next year. Kill ALL of this bill! NONE of it can be passed — if it is, our nation will fold like a bad poker hand.
Cecile Richards is on the White House visitors log that was recently released. Lots of meetings over the past year at the White House. What did everyone expect? This is their agenda.
The problem is - even if an amendment could be tacked on - the bill as a whole is the biggest pile of crap yet put forward. It makes the original HB3200 look good. This bill is a far larger power grab, will systematically destroy our health care system, and it is capped currently by the mandate to fund abortions.
An amendment is not what we need. We need the whole concept of the government controlling health care to be thrown away.
Further, we need to flush 95% of congress along with it.
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She asked whomever can make it to drive to Wash., DC and meet with her on the west steps of the Capitol to protest on Thursday, 11/5, at 12 Noon. (Remember OUR house call visit to the local offices of our rep and senators offices downtown at 11:00AM on that same date!)
This is a toll-free line set up by a pro-Obama organization, IGNORE the recorded message but when you reach the switchboard, ask for your Member of Congress.
Your message is simple:
VOTE AGAINST "THE RULE" TODAY.
VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE STUPAK AMENDMENT.
The House MUST allow for floor debate and amendment on HR 3962 (health reform). The Stupak Amendment is essential because abortion is not health care. Nobody is healthier dead. That's the bottom line.
The Stupak Amendment must pass. There must be an opportunity for you in the House to debate and amend!
Vote against "the Rule." Vote IN FAVOR OF debate and amendment. Vote IN FAVOR OF the Stupak Amendment.
(And when you get the opportunity, vote against the whole damned Health Care Reform Bill.)
Thank you.
See mine at #22. Nifty thrifty TOLL-FREE NUMBER to reach Congressional Switchboard. Paid for by Obama-ites!
At the same time, voting NO on the ghastly Madame Pelosi no-debate "RULE" will be a trmendous show of strength and keep the Kill-the-Bill momentum rolling.
No answer at the number given... even after the recorded message.
Called my rep at the local office. He is against this in its entirety and anything that will rush it through without amendments.
He’s a rarity in WNY - Republican... Still doesn’t excuse not attending town halls in August.
Hence, personally I'd rather not try to remove this language as part of an amendment as it makes the whole enchilada much harder to swallow. The more cr@p that is in this bill the less chance it has of passing.
I frankly think this is Pelosi's strategy.... Put the bad stuff in that they know will never pass, then remove it in the amendment process and bingo, you get the votes to pass Government Run Healthcare and give cover to the Blue Dogs. Then, after the monster is in place, they put the bad stuff back later.
Because Abortion is the most sacred thing in their inverted Universe of the Damned.
In my (non-infallible) judgment, a big NO vote on "The Rule" will be a massive show of resistance to the ghastly Madame Pelosi. That will keep the resistance ball rolling. It will electrify and energize the Good Guys by demonstrating that The Obamapower is not invincible. And our no-abortion-funding push MUST be linked with a NO vote on the overall Bill, which deserves to be turned into high-cellulose landfill for about 1,000 good reasons.
You can get a direct line to members’ offices both in DC and locally by going here: https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt?action=myreps_form
I just called Hoyer’s office (for what it’s worth) (Ashamedly, he’s my representative). A woman with a Brit accent (what’s that about??) said she’d pass it on.
No busy signals, no phone messages, no waits.
Thanks for that great link!
Reading all this—and the “strategies” employed by the left-—I come back to the old adage that “politics is war by another name”.
And this is most certainly a war.
I will act on this as best I can today.
Pope John Paul II and Bl. Mother Teresa, pray for us.
God bless, Mrs. Don-o.
Please stop the mass pings. Its front page news. I know it’s important, and we are all doing all we can.
Defeat and kill the entire MengeleCare, the brainchild of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the Fuhrer.
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Exactly!!! Let them keep abortion in the bill. Let's abort the bill and everything in it.
I have poor hearing, too. I communicate much better by e-mail and computer/website than by phone.
If you go to your congressman’s website (just google his/her name) you can click on the “contact” link and send a statement via the congressional website message form. If you have any trouble with this, send me your Representative’s name and I will find the message form.
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https://www.aclj.org/Petition/Default.aspx?sc=3480&ac=1
Please go to the above website and sign the petition so that Americans will not be mandated to pay our hard earned money to pay for abortions. “In each committee, Congress has rejected pro-life efforts to keep abortion out of the bills. This means that, if enacted, countless Americans would be forced to buy coverage for abortion even if they dont want it, and would ensure that government funding for elective abortions is mandated.” This information is from Jay Sekulow’s website the ACLJ.
Thanks!
Thanks for posting this.
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