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NY-23 2009: America has changed [Hoffman concedes defeat to Owens]
Doug Hoffman for Congress ^ | 2009-11-04

Posted on 11/03/2009 9:58:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: ansel12

What I’ve learned is that RINO’s endorse Democrats and so there’s no reason whatsoever to vote for them.


161 posted on 11/03/2009 11:48:17 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: dschapin
So, this loss is due to conservatives and has nothing to do with the fact that local party officials picked a candidate that was unnaceptable to her district

She was acceptable to that RINO district. Tonight we shockingly learned that far right conservative Hoffman was not acceptable to liberal NY. So unacceptable that 6% of GOP voters...when given a choice between a vote for a liberal rat, or a conservative spoiler...chose to throw their votr away

Dede was only unacceptable to Rush, Palin, and lots of other out of state conservatives.

162 posted on 11/03/2009 11:48:28 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: txhurl

“Newly reelected Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) credited Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin with firing up his base and allowing him to cruise to a victory over Democrat Jim Martin.”

“Sarah Palin came in on the last day, did a fly-around and, man, she was dynamite,” Chambliss told Fox News on Wednesday. “We packed the houses everywhere we went. And it really did allow us to peak and get our base fired up.”

Chambliss beat Martin by three points on Nov. 4 but did not reach 50 percent of the vote, making a runoff necessary. However, the incumbent easily beat his challenger Tuesday, more than quadrupling his margin of victory, and in the process kept Democrats from reaching a filibuster-proof Senate majority.

Chambliss heaped praise on Palin, saying she has a “great future” in the GOP.

“I can’t overstate the impact she had down here. All these folks did a great job coming in,” he said, referring to former presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani. “They allow you [to] add momentum to where we were in the campaign. But when she walks in a room, folks just explode.”


163 posted on 11/03/2009 11:49:37 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney/Scozzafava 2012)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

This was a big day for us.

It’s hard to fight entropy, but we’re doing it.

The entropic Left is going down.


164 posted on 11/03/2009 11:50:23 PM PST by txhurl (It's only a matter of time before FreeRepublic has this fraud's scalp on our lodge pole.)
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To: Once-Ler

My question escaped you:

for what purpose?


165 posted on 11/03/2009 11:52:32 PM PST by Z in Washington
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To: Once-Ler

Maybe the Dem will be more conservative than Dede.

There’s no getting around the fact—people are just sick and tired of RINO’s in the GOP.


166 posted on 11/03/2009 11:52:47 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Once-Ler
Dede was only unacceptable to Rush, Palin, and lots of other out of state conservatives.And 94% of her district.
167 posted on 11/03/2009 11:53:24 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Once-Ler

What? Hoffman got 45% and Scazzofava got 6%, and you say that Hoffman was the spoiler?

Either you forgot the /sarc tag, or you’re loony.


168 posted on 11/03/2009 11:53:52 PM PST by kevao (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: BradyLS

She drew 6% WITHOUT running. She dropped out last week.


169 posted on 11/03/2009 11:53:58 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: Once-Ler

She was not acceptable - otherwise there would not have been a conservative challenge. She was already losing to Owens before Palin endorsed Hoffman. Also Hoffman was already getting significant support (more than 20% I believe) before Palin endorsed him. So, that should put to bed any idea that Scozzafava was acceptable to this district. Once again this should have been settled by a primary election which would have allowed the GOP to unify around an acceptable candidate. What caused this problem was that the candidate was picked by party bosses in a smoke filled room.


170 posted on 11/03/2009 11:55:35 PM PST by dschapin
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To: ansel12
you wanted her in that seat.

No. I would have been happy if Hoffman won. You wanted Owens in that seat.

171 posted on 11/03/2009 11:55:38 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: Cedar
Maybe the Dem will be more conservative than Dede.

Dream the dream.

172 posted on 11/03/2009 11:56:20 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: Cedar
This just reveals the liberal bent of the NY GOP.

and the NY voter.

173 posted on 11/03/2009 11:57:28 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: Once-Ler

She dropped out on a Saturday night for an election on a following Tuesday morning. And told Republicans to vote for a Democrat to boot. Splitter. Quitter. Not a team player.


174 posted on 11/03/2009 11:57:30 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: dschapin

Well said—as all of your other posts have been here tonight too.


175 posted on 11/03/2009 11:57:31 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Once-Ler

She drew 6% because her campaign imploded and came off at the rails, she was nothing but a 6 percenter, she tried, she had all the money, but she couldn’t gain any traction.


176 posted on 11/03/2009 11:57:38 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney/Scozzafava 2012)
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To: Once-Ler
She drew 6% WITHOUT running. She dropped out last week.

And a great many of those votes were early votes, cast before she dropped out on Saturday.

177 posted on 11/03/2009 11:58:20 PM PST by kevao (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I’m not sure what to think about today. I agree with you that declaring what happened in NY-23 as an unqualified victory for conservatives is either spin or self-delusion, neither of which is helpful. As good as beating Scozzafava was, today is not a good day for conservatives. Overall, this whole episode was probably a wash - an empty victory. You don’t run in elections to come in second. It’s as simple as that.

On the other hand, I think the Republican wins in Virginia and New Jersey are huge, and the speed with which the Obama camp is trying to downplay it speaks volumes. This is a big shot across Obama’s bow, and will probably have some serious repercussions in Washington. Also, at least as far as the voting public is concerned, this news overshadows the NY-23 election.

In the end, I’d say today was a loss for Obama, but not a win for conservatives. A win for Hoffman would have put conservatives in a very strong position. His loss means the fight for the soul of the GOP is alive and well, and certainly won’t be resolved before the 2010 elections. This could get ugly.


178 posted on 11/04/2009 12:00:14 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Once-Ler

No you are a liberal that clearly wanted the worst candidate most of us have ever seen to win, the candidate that the daily kos endorsed over the democrat.

You support and are still supporting the candidate that sabotaged the race so that a democrat could squeeze out a narrow win.


179 posted on 11/04/2009 12:00:36 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney/Scozzafava 2012)
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To: Once-Ler

Then let NY have its wonderful liberals. You should be happier.


180 posted on 11/04/2009 12:02:05 AM PST by Cedar
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