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Pence endorses Hoffman for 2010
The Hill.Com ^ | Nov 4, 2009 | Jordan Fabian

Posted on 11/04/2009 2:34:03 PM PST by JSDude1

The third-ranking Republican in the House of Representatives on Wednesday endorsed Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman for the 2010 midterm elections.

House Republican Conference chairman Mike Pence (R-Ind.) offered his support to Hoffman, who was defeated at the hands of Democrat Bill Owens in a highly contested special election in upstate New York.

"Well, let me say that the lesson here is that we all need to fall behind Doug Hoffman for next fall’s election," Pence told a conservative blog today. "I look forward to welcoming him to Congress a year from now. I think he ran a brilliant campaign."


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2009endorsements; conservative; hoffman; newyork; ny2010; pence; republicans
Pence we could use more of you, Palin, Bachmann, DeMint and Hoffman, R. Paul!
1 posted on 11/04/2009 2:34:03 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

Pence has clearly staked his claim to leadership of the House Conservatives.


2 posted on 11/04/2009 2:36:39 PM PST by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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To: henkster

this would be Pathway/Amnesty-Pence, yes?


3 posted on 11/04/2009 2:42:43 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: JSDude1

Maybe the leadership should let the district’s residents decide who the nominee is? It wasn’t good when the RINOs anointed Scofazza, and it shouldn’t be done with Hoffman either.


4 posted on 11/04/2009 2:43:17 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: JSDude1

That’s stupid. Hoffman isn’t even IN the district, and he clearly isn’t the best conservative for the race. He’s just the guy who took the mantle. There are good conservatives who know the district and will run in the primary next year, and the locals will choose their candidate.


5 posted on 11/04/2009 2:45:40 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JSDude1

Ha! With the tail wind of the elections still blowing through D.C., the absence of endorsements for Hoffman 2010 could have gone mostly unnoticed.

Good for Pence for planting a huge-ass stake in the ground.


6 posted on 11/04/2009 2:46:44 PM PST by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: JSDude1

Mike, you’re supposed to learn from your mistakes, not repeat them.


7 posted on 11/04/2009 2:47:00 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Yes, it IS the end of the world.)
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To: Chet 99

Hear hear!


8 posted on 11/04/2009 2:47:24 PM PST by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Amen, if NY-23 should’ve taught the poobahs in DC anything, it should’ve been to let local primaries establish the winning candidate. Hoffman may turn out to be the candidate, he may not. Sometimes it’s smarter politics to run someone with similar beliefs who doesn’t carry personal baggage that will generate backlash.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 2:49:52 PM PST by Steve_Stifler
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To: CharlesWayneCT

>> He’s just the guy who took the mantle.

Who was the other guy? Did anyone else care to try?

Pence is endorsing Spartacus - and that’s not ‘stupid’.


10 posted on 11/04/2009 2:52:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: Steve_Stifler; Chet 99; CharlesWayneCT

What planet are you guys living on?

The national Democrats meddled in that district well in advance of the GOP.


11 posted on 11/04/2009 2:57:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Good point. Apparently he met with the biggest newpaper in the district and didnt even know anything baout local issues.

A solid conservative can win this district and will next year if they have the united pary behind them from the begining and run a good campaign.

I think the perception that this was run by outside hurt hoffman. Get a local guy and have him go through the process, the primary, etc... and he’ll do just fine.


12 posted on 11/04/2009 2:59:28 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: Gene Eric

....national Democrats meddled in the race....

Including Joe Biden in the very last days. He did a better job than Obama did in VA and NJ. The Dems won NY 23 for the first time in 100 years.


13 posted on 11/04/2009 3:02:50 PM PST by mono
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To: JSDude1

THANK YOU for adding Paul to your list (whether it is father or son, I’m not sure, but I admire both!). IMO, Rep. Paul is an honest man of principle dedicated to protecting the Constitution & deserves our utmost respect.


14 posted on 11/04/2009 3:07:16 PM PST by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Chet 99

Agreed. Things can change with time. Ask Newt. ;^)


15 posted on 11/04/2009 3:12:09 PM PST by eureka! (Turn the Tea Party into our own ACORN when voting time comes. GOTV.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

From what I understand that district will cease to exist because of redistricting.


16 posted on 11/04/2009 3:29:11 PM PST by kempster
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To: Gene Eric
Who was the other guy? Did anyone else care to try?

His name is Paul Maroun. He's a conservative Republican who was under consideration for the nomination until Dede aced him out through back-room hardball politics.

17 posted on 11/04/2009 3:33:07 PM PST by Doug Loss
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To: JSDude1
Let me preface this by saying that Pence is my first choice for president in 2012 if he runs.

Unfortunately, jumping in this early is a mistake for 2010. Hoffman doesn't live in the district, and his deficincy of local issue acumen is what cost him in that race. The GOP and Conservative party needs to pick candidates that fit the district of NY-23. Doug Hoffman was not it. Dede Scozzafava was not it at all. John McHugh is.

The best pick is someone who fits the district. Maroun?

18 posted on 11/04/2009 3:39:48 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: JSDude1
Pence for President in 2012
19 posted on 11/04/2009 3:54:47 PM PST by ajay_kumar (Third party has never won in US, but some people are born masochists)
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To: JSDude1

I wonder if the story of NY-23 has been fully told yet. I read some blogs which indicated that Scozzafava did not win the votes on the several sub-district ballots, but that two conservatives won most of those votes among county leaders. Hoffman was not one of the two receiving the most votes.

There are stories that some national Republican people injected themselves into the process, and that is when Scozzafava was chosen. So, there might be other conservatives more highly regarded than Hoffman who’d be even better candidates for 2010 in an open primary process.

Why is Pence or any other non-resident of NY-23 already injecting themselves into the process for 2010? Why not let the Republicans of NY-23 select their candidate without national interference?

And, I don’t think the full story of how all this happened in NY-23 has been put together and told yet.


20 posted on 11/04/2009 3:56:33 PM PST by Will88
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To: ajay_kumar

“Pence for President in 2012”

Pence has some matters to clear up before I, and many others would even think of him as a presidential possibility. He first came to my attention when, at the last minute, he popped up and tried to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory during the 2006 amnesty for illegals debate:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/guests/s_457867.html


21 posted on 11/04/2009 4:00:53 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

WOuld you please post what Pence’s exact stand is on illegal immigrants? I saw him a few times on TV interviews and to me he came across as being knowledgeable on issues and having wonderful TV presence.


22 posted on 11/04/2009 4:08:44 PM PST by ajay_kumar (Third party has never won in US, but some people are born masochists)
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To: ajay_kumar

Pence needs to clarify what his position on amnesty is, certainly not me. But he did inject himself late into the 2006 debate with what was viewed as a stealthy amnesty proposal, AFTER the debate had practically been won by the anti-amnesty members of the Senate.

Plenty of sources to read about it:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mike+pence+2006+amnesty&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS345US345&ie=UTF-8

Wouldn’t even consider the guy as of now.


23 posted on 11/04/2009 4:22:02 PM PST by Will88
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To: Doug Loss

>> His name is Paul Maroun.

Should I infer that a vacancy by Hoffman would have let Maroun run as the Independent? If not, then Maroun is insignificant in the national story of NY-23.

It’s vertical expedition, this quest for Conservatism - at least from the standpoint of representation. Conservatives across the nation had a stake in NY-23, not to squander its local interest, but to support the cause and will of Conservatism exemplified in Hoffman’s non-conforming, independent, and risky decision to stand up in opposition to moderate republicanism.

I look forward to knowing more about Maroun. I’m not a subscriber to “the only solution is a third party solution”, but wholeheartedly support the independent runs when the GOP play undermines the cause for Conservatism.


24 posted on 11/04/2009 4:34:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: JSDude1

Mike Pence should be the 2012 nominee for the Presidency.


25 posted on 11/04/2009 5:12:37 PM PST by Z in Washington
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"...Hoffman isn’t even IN the district..."

Which District does Hoffman live in?

26 posted on 11/04/2009 5:16:43 PM PST by Radix (Obama represents CHAINS for posterity.)
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To: ChrisInAR

Agreed. Ron Paul has actually written legislation to make real and incredible change, while many Republicans have just collected a check for nothing.


27 posted on 11/04/2009 5:18:53 PM PST by Z in Washington
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To: Gene Eric

One candidate is Paul Mauron. He was one of the 9 candidates for the republican nomination, and could easily have won the seat if the republican leaders had chosen him. He didn’t run on the conservative party line because he pledged to support the republican as a condition of competing for the nomination.


28 posted on 11/04/2009 8:19:34 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

>> One candidate is Paul Mauron.

Another FReeper mentioned Mauron.

Hoffman may have been instrumental in unplugging the crap that’s causing the Conservatives indigestion. But, if a solid Conservative other than Hoffman gets the Republican nomination for 2010, will Hoffman still run as the Independent Conservative?


29 posted on 11/04/2009 8:37:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: Gene Eric

No. He was part of the Republican party, and only ran because they picked DeDe, the Democrat pretending to be a Republican who had friends in high places and wanted a huge salaried-job with perks.

I don’t think he’d run against a conservative. The conservative party would cross-endorse, like they usually do when the local republicans don’t completely ignore them.

IN my opinion, DeDe’s friend saw a “chance” to get a liberal into the seat, because it was a special election and they didn’t have to win a primary, and they figured they didn’t need the conservative party so they gave them the finger.

That’s really what started this — locals not paying attention to the political landscape.


30 posted on 11/05/2009 4:19:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Gene Eric

And on a more general note, looking back, I can only say that if republicans who support cap and trade, abortion, socialized medicine, and card check feel like they are being told there is no place in the republican party for them, I would say, good, you’ve got the message, get out.

I’m all for a “big tent”, but I want a real tent with a roof over our heads and walls on the sides, not a virtual tent where everybody is inside and it means NOTHING to be in the tent.


31 posted on 11/05/2009 4:21:45 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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