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Joe Wilson Proposes Forcing Congress Onto Government Health Insurance Plan
Fox News ^ | November 4, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 11/05/2009 10:00:07 AM PST by yoe

Though Republicans oppose the so-called "public option," Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., is proposing the requirement to draw attention to the plan's alleged flaws.

Republican Rep. Joe Wilson proposed an amendment Wednesday that would force all members of Congress to receive health insurance coverage through the government-run plan proposed in the House's reform bill.

Though Republicans oppose the so-called "public option," the South Carolina gadfly -- who gained notoriety for shouting "you lie" at President Obama during his address to Congress two months ago -- is proposing the requirement to draw attention to what he sees as the plan's flaws.

"They know the government-run option will not be in the interest of the American people, either individually or for the American citizens at large," Wilson said Wednesday, arguing that's the reason Congress does not require its members to sign up.

The current House health care legislation states that members of Congress "may enroll" in the public plan. Wilson wants that changed to "must enroll."

"If the public option is good enough for the American people, then it's certainly good enough for Congress," Wilson said. "If this government-run plan is so good, why don't members of Congress take the plan?"

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Good on Joe Wilson!!! Common sense from Washington at last. Sorry Obama, your Marxist plans just collapsed.
1 posted on 11/05/2009 10:00:09 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

great idea
add all gov employees to the plan as well


2 posted on 11/05/2009 10:01:47 AM PST by genghis
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To: yoe

They could start today by putting them on Medicare and Medicaid. That would be only fair. Why should they get better care than their slaves.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 10:04:11 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: yoe

They could start today by putting them on Medicare and Medicaid. That would be only fair. Why should they get better care than their slaves.


4 posted on 11/05/2009 10:04:24 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: yoe

While I don’t agree with universal healthcare under any circumstance, it seems quite fitting that those that are proposing it should have to take their own bite of the sh*t sandwich they are trying to force down our throats.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 10:04:50 AM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: genghis
A strong support by Republicans dissenting from the Health Care Bill would probably make a terrific campaign strategy.

Too bad they won't consider it.

6 posted on 11/05/2009 10:05:04 AM PST by Radix (Obama represents CHAINS for posterity.)
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To: yoe

The Americant Politburo declares, “This is an OUTRAGE!!!”


7 posted on 11/05/2009 10:05:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: All; yoe
Health Care Revolt on the Capitol Steps now.

1000's have responded to Michelle Bachman's call to come to the Capitol. Watch it on C-Span 3

C-Span 3

8 posted on 11/05/2009 10:05:53 AM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: yoe
Check out what Federalist #57 says about just such a thing. I get chills everytime I read this:

I will add, as a fifth circumstance in the situation of the House of Representatives, restraining them from oppressive measures, that they can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interests and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny. If it be asked, what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer: the genius of the whole system; the nature of just and constitutional laws; and above all, the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America -- a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it.

If this spirit shall ever be so far debased as to tolerate a law not obligatory on the legislature, as well as on the people, the people will be prepared to tolerate any thing but liberty.

9 posted on 11/05/2009 10:07:01 AM PST by 14erClimb (G-D bless the USA: where a non-citizen cokehead who doesn't pay parking tix can be POTUS)
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To: yoe

I propose forcing them onto the gallows.


10 posted on 11/05/2009 10:09:00 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: yoe

What a great idea. Joe Wilson is a stand up guy. Way to go Joe!


11 posted on 11/05/2009 10:10:19 AM PST by jersey117
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To: yoe
The thing is, no matter what kind of system is set up in this country, those elitists in Washington will always get the best care, they will never be denied, nor their family members, there will never be rationing of care to MOC's. They should have realized this and done the enormously brilliant PR move of ALL pledging to be insured under whatever government plan is adopted, no waivers or opt-outs, etc. Shortage of physicians? Not at Bethesda. No MRI or x-ray machines available? Ha, not if you've got Rep or Sen before your name. Cancer drugs/chemo in short supply, only so much to go around? Guess who's at the front of that line.

It was stupid beyond belief that these people, supposedly smarter than any of the rest of us, didn't realize this and use it to their advantage, instead of allowing the fair criticism to their suggested legislation.

12 posted on 11/05/2009 10:12:47 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: Radix
They want to propose Obamacare light.

Instead of:

...seeing that all payers (government Medicare/Medicade, private insurance, self-pay) are billed the SAME amount (right now costs are subsidized by higher billing amounts to private insurance and even higher billing to those who self-pay).

...seeing that consumers can save tax deferred money in health savings accounts for out of pocket expenses. Ted Kennedy was a strong opponent of this. He's dead now. Let's move on.

...other proposals have included portability of insurance across state lines and other options.

But shackling us under a 1000 page version of the 1300 page bill still brings us Obamacare incrementally.

13 posted on 11/05/2009 10:14:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: yoe

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.


14 posted on 11/05/2009 10:14:58 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Erase Socialism)
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To: yoe
To members of Congress, President 0b0z0, his thugs and Czars and any union members connected with the government, take a big swig of your new healthcare! Just chew on what floats to the top.


15 posted on 11/05/2009 10:16:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: 353FMG

All men are created equal but some are more equal than others, comrade.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 10:16:30 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: yoe
Let's include Rahm, Axelrod and all the Czars working for Obama too.


17 posted on 11/05/2009 10:16:52 AM PST by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: yoe

I think all the pubbie’s ought to start sying this. Problem is, too many of them are also part of the problem. Wishfull thinking.


18 posted on 11/05/2009 10:19:08 AM PST by vpintheak (4-times an extremist)
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To: yoe

This is a great idea politically. It forces the hands of the democrats.


19 posted on 11/05/2009 10:19:45 AM PST by AlGone2001 (He's not a baby anymore...)
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To: All

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Go Joe!!

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A reminder:
Please do what you can to help out our fellow FReeper and good FRiend, Beckwith, keep the fantastic The Obama File up and running.
This fine patriot had to close it down briefly recently for lack of funds. Remember, this is a 70 year old living on social security.
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20 posted on 11/05/2009 10:26:22 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: yoe; All

“Exclusive: Interview with Rep. Joe Wilson on Health Care”

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/05/exclusive-interview-with-rep-joe-wilson-on-health-care/


21 posted on 11/05/2009 10:27:07 AM PST by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: Oldexpat

I had long said that the day Ted Kennedy walks into DC General for hospital service would be the day that I support socialized medicine. Needless to say, that day never happened. Kennedy avoided government hospitals at all cost even though he qualified for VA care. Go figure.


22 posted on 11/05/2009 10:28:06 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: yoe

What a$$hole at Fox labeled Rep. Wilson a “gadfly”?

I’d like to be the first to call that stupid son-of-a-biotch a stupid son-of-a-biotch.


23 posted on 11/05/2009 10:29:31 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: yoe; genghis

I believe that Pelosi, Reid and company are putting themselves into the government plan they want to foist on to this nation.

If the government plan drives the insurance companies out of business, thus leaving only the government plan, then members of Congress and all federal employees will be automatically enrolled into the government plan.

WHY?

The current federal health insurance plan is based upon group purchasing from existing health insurance companies, if those companies go out of business, then the current federal health care goes out of business.

To me this is a classic “Hoist on their on petard” moment, where the Congressional Elite, so long exempting themselves from the laws they pass, are going to, as a consequence of those laws, make them suffer just like they want us citizens to suffer.


24 posted on 11/05/2009 10:32:37 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: yoe
This may be a good political angle to play, but just don't get into a corner where at the last moment pelousy changes the bill to accept this plank and then expect/get republican votes.

Thing is, pelousy couldn't care less what many of the details are, as this "thing" is so horrendous and monstrous to our republic, it must be defeated no matter what's in there for "public option", abortion, or forcing lawmakers to be on the same plan.

25 posted on 11/05/2009 10:37:17 AM PST by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: GreyFriar

What is good for the goose is good for the gander needs to have meaning in Washington again.

When congress exempts themselves don’t they violate the equal protection clause?


26 posted on 11/05/2009 10:38:17 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Most likely, but “Hey, they are Congress.” (BARFFFFFFFFFF)


27 posted on 11/05/2009 10:39:49 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: 444Flyer

Tutu-wearing, pansy Marxist FJB.


28 posted on 11/05/2009 10:40:12 AM PST by twister881
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Joe Wilson Proposes Forcing Congress Onto Government Health Insurance Plan

Okay, I hear what you're saying.

But, let's not give anyone the idea that doing so would make this giant dose of Marxism acceptable.

29 posted on 11/05/2009 10:46:24 AM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: yoe

BTTT CALL NOW!
The number of the Capital Switchboard is 202-224-3121.

The Blue Dog Leadership Team and there telephone and fax numbers are:

Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration

Telephone: 202.225.2801 , Fax: 202.225.5823

Rep. Baron Hill (IN-09), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy

Telephone: 202-225-4031, Fax: (202) 226-6866

Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA-03), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications

Telephone: 202-225-4031, Fax: (202) 226-3944

Rep. Heath Shuler (NC-11), Blue Dog Whip

Telephone: 202-225-6401, Fax: (202) 226-6422

The Blue Dog Members and their telephone numbers are :

Altmire, Jason (PA-04),(202)225-2565

Arcuri, Mike (NY-24), (202)225-3665

Baca, Joe (CA-43),(202)225-6161

Barrow, John (GA-12), (202) 225-2823

Berry, Marion (AR-01), (202) 225-4076

Bishop, Sanford (GA-02), (202) 225-3631

Boren, Dan (OK-02), (202) 225-2701

Boswell, Leonard (IA-03), (202) 225-3806

Boyd, Allen (FL-02), (202) 225-5235

Bright, Bobby (AL-02), (202) 225-2901

Cardoza, Dennis (CA-18), (202) 225-6131

Carney, Christopher (PA-10), (202) 225-3731

Chandler, Ben (KY-06), (202) 225-4706

Childers, Travis (MS-01), (202) 225-4306

Cooper, Jim (TN 5th), (202) 225-4311

Costa, Jim (CA 20th), (202) 225-3341

Cuellar, Henry (TX 28th), (202) 225-1640

Dahlkemper, Kathleen A. (PA 3rd), (202) 225-5406

Davis, Lincoln (TN 4th),(202) 225-6831

Donnelly, Joe (IN 2nd), (202) 225-3915

Ellsworth, Brad (IN 8th), (202) 225-4636

Giffords, Gabrielle (AZ 8th), (202) 225-2542

Gordon, Bart (TN 6th), (202) 225-4231

Griffith, Parker (AL 5th), (202) 225-4801

Harman, Jane (CA 36th), (202) 225-8220

Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie (SD At Large), (202) 225-2801

Hill, Baron P. (IN 9th), (202) 225-5315

Holden, Tim (PA 17th), (202) 225-5546

Kratovil, Frank Jr. (MD 1st), (202) 225-5311

McIntyre, Mike (NC 7th), (202) 225-2731

Marshall, Jim (GA 8th), (202) 225-6531

Matheson, Jim (UT 2nd), (202) 225-3011

Melancon, Charlie (LA 3rd), (202) 225-4031

Michaud, Michael H. (ME 2nd), (202) 225-6306

Minnick, Walt (ID 1st), (202) 225-6611

Mitchell, Harry E. (AZ 5th), (202) 225-2190

Moore, Dennis (KS 3rd), (202) 225-2865

Murphy, Patrick J. (PA 8th), (202) 225-4276

Nye, Glenn C. (VA 2nd), (202) 225-4215

Peterson, Collin C. (MN 7th), (202) 225-2165

Pomeroy, Earl (ND At Large), (202) 225-2611

Ross, Mike (AR 4th), (202) 225-3772

Salazar, John T. (CO 3rd), (202) 225-4761
Sanchez, Loretta (CA 47th), (202) 225-2965

Schiff, Adam B. (CA 29th), (202) 225-4176
Scott, David (GA 13th), (202) 225-2939

Shuler, Heath (NC 11th), (202) 225-6401

Space, Zachary T. (OH 18th), (202) 225-6265

Tanner, John S. (TN 8th), (202) 225-4714

Taylor, Gene (MS 4th), (202) 225-5772

Thompson, Mike (CA 1st), (202) 225-3311

Wilson, Charles (OH-06), (202) 225-5705


30 posted on 11/05/2009 10:55:46 AM PST by Libertina (Don't Tread on Us)
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To: yoe

Excellent idea, Joe! good on you!


31 posted on 11/05/2009 11:05:22 AM PST by hattend (We should stop comparing Obama to Hitler. At least Hitler got the Olympic Games to come to Berlin.)
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To: 444Flyer

I wonder what the context is of that picture.

Rahm needs an ass kicking.


32 posted on 11/05/2009 11:07:03 AM PST by hattend (We should stop comparing Obama to Hitler. At least Hitler got the Olympic Games to come to Berlin.)
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To: Spunky

Taxpayers swarm Capitol to protest Obamacare - 10,000 chant to Congress: 'Hands off our health care' and 'Kill the bill'
33 posted on 11/05/2009 11:19:11 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: hattend
Excellent idea, Joe! good on you!

So, is the point to say if Congress comes up with a plan they're willing to go on themselves, we're probably okay with it, too?

34 posted on 11/05/2009 11:21:19 AM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dewey Revoltnow
I propose forcing them onto the gallows.

Most of them deserve such a fate. 200 years or so ago they likely would have gotten it.

35 posted on 11/05/2009 11:25:08 AM PST by Recovering Hermit (I shot the rooster, the one that used'er, wake me up at four A.M....)
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To: yoe

I like that.


36 posted on 11/05/2009 11:25:21 AM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: yoe

Laura Ingraham was talking to a guest this morning on her show and they were discussing how Planned Parenthood has been made a quasi-government agency by the health bill, complete with funding. That means abortion is definitely a part of this tax-funded bill.


37 posted on 11/05/2009 11:27:41 AM PST by khnyny
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To: 444Flyer

Man, that finger he is pointing with the ugly face would have been snapped
into several pieces if I were the target and that close.

The hate in that sissy’s face is more deserving of a knockout
punch, but I’d go for the finger out of politeness.


38 posted on 11/05/2009 11:51:08 AM PST by soycd
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To: yoe
Republican Rep. Joe Wilson proposed an amendment Wednesday that would force all members of Congress to receive health insurance coverage through the government-run plan proposed in the House's reform bill.

Why not? If it's as good as the democrats claim it is, they should be waiting in anticipation to sign up for it themselves.
So, how great is this bill, Nancy? You can be the first to sign up!

39 posted on 11/05/2009 11:52:06 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: yoe
"If the public option is good enough for the American people, then it's certainly good enough for Congress," Wilson said. "If this government-run plan is so good, why don't members of Congress take the plan?"

These words should be in every commercial and in every News Paper in the country. That would wake up a lot of people.
"Good for thee, but not for me."

40 posted on 11/05/2009 11:55:26 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: newgeezer

The point is this will kill the bill as Congress will not want to give up their healthcare plan.


41 posted on 11/05/2009 11:59:41 AM PST by hattend (We should stop comparing Obama to Hitler. At least Hitler got the Olympic Games to come to Berlin.)
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To: yoe
Rep. John Fleming (LA) has already put forth HR 615 to do the same thing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2372916/posts

42 posted on 11/05/2009 12:00:40 PM PST by PrivateIdaho ("... like a wild potato.")
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To: yoe

in 5 years this guy should run against Lindsey Grahmnesty for the Senate.


43 posted on 11/05/2009 12:01:38 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Congrats to Virginia and New Jersey)
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To: hattend
The point is this will kill the bill as Congress will not want to give up their healthcare plan.

Agreed.
This plan is for the slaves - not the masters.

44 posted on 11/05/2009 12:01:45 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: yoe

Absolutely; I’ve been saying that since day one. All public officials and employees must be made to take the exact same healthcare “plan” that is imposed on the rest of us.

In fact, going a step farther, they should be on it for two years before any of the rest of us, just to show us how great it is!


45 posted on 11/05/2009 12:06:53 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: yoe
the South Carolina gadfly

Oooh, there goes that evil conservative Fox again, supporting Republicans.

(/sarc)

46 posted on 11/05/2009 12:19:29 PM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: hattend
The point is this will kill the bill as Congress will not want to give up their healthcare plan.

On its surface, it's snarky, it's a red herring, it's disingenuous and does little if anything to further our worthy cause.

47 posted on 11/05/2009 12:27:28 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: genghis

I’d love to see it.


48 posted on 11/05/2009 12:38:50 PM PST by cvq3842 (A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
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To: yoe

Say it is so, Joe.


49 posted on 11/05/2009 12:39:56 PM PST by Recovering Hermit (I shot the rooster, the one that used'er, wake me up at four A.M....)
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To: yoe
bo honkey

I heard some twisted convoluted excuse for the bill last night that basically said if it's so bad why does Joe want all the congress and federal unions on the plan. Un freakin believable.

50 posted on 11/05/2009 2:04:39 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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