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1 posted on 11/08/2009 8:55:10 AM PST by paltz
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To: paltz

Of course they were “played.”


2 posted on 11/08/2009 8:59:24 AM PST by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: paltz

Anyone that believes that negotiating with people that actively promote the killing of another human being is honorable should be ashamed.
Just as with the Islamofascists it is perfectly acceptble to LIE to NON-believers.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 8:59:24 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: paltz
Stupak, et al., are charlatans. Either that or brain-dead. There is not one chance in hell that, should this piece of excrement pass in the Senate, the Stupak amendment will NOT be removed, first thing, from the conference reported bill.

Stupak wanted a fig leaf, and got it. Or else he's got the intelligence of an amoeba (no offense to amoebae, of course).

4 posted on 11/08/2009 9:00:08 AM PST by SAJ
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To: paltz

Of interest, the GOP could have killed the health care bill by voting against the amendment and it would not have carried.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 9:00:41 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Mr. Boehner responded, “it is quite clear this could be a shell game underway. . . . I have my doubts this language if it passes has any chance of being in the final version of the bill.”

GNS! Ya think????


6 posted on 11/08/2009 9:00:46 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: paltz

Abso-freaking-lutely.

I knew it last night when I first heard of it.

WE ARE SUCH SUCKERS.

This is NOT about abortion. That’s a ruse. A distraction.

This is about the government TAKEOVER of society. All of it. They can get around silly abortion restriction clauses in their “health bill” anytime they want. And you know it and I know it. Just take it before any lib court. Just wait for ObamaFacist to issue an EXECUTIVE ORDER.

We were played because fundamentally, as a group, WE ARE STUPID.


7 posted on 11/08/2009 9:01:02 AM PST by samtheman
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To: paltz

This was the most stupid thing. How is this amendment anything to celebrate about? I mean does anyone in the pro-life community believe that Nancy Pelosi and liberal Democrats in general have any qualms about finding ways around this? This was stupid. It offered cover to a bill that will take all of our rights to disagree on the health care issue. The Senate thankfully will provide the battlefield on which to take down this bill. Anyone who was celebrating this as a pro-life victory are fools. The only thing that I found interesting is that there were that many pro-life Democrats. That has to drive the far left crazy.


8 posted on 11/08/2009 9:01:18 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776!)
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To: paltz
They knew exactly what they were doing.

There are plenty of Christian Socialists. Europe is full of them and so is the Democratic Party.

Heck, by some measures, Bush was a Christian Socialist.

9 posted on 11/08/2009 9:03:30 AM PST by mc6809e
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Of course. No surprises here. At least not for those who understood the nature of this beast. Everyone who supported this betrayal of the American people got "played." All were deals made with the Devil.

"They made many promises, but kept only one. They promised to take our land, and they did."
RedCloud
11 posted on 11/08/2009 9:07:56 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo.)
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The Washington Times gets it, but only in part. The perfidy is even worse than they seem to understand.

Republicans, unfortunately, care more for the appearance of being pro-life than they do for the substance of being pro-life.

And it allowed Pelosi and Obama to take a huge stride towards the finishing off of American liberty.

The winnowing season continues apace...


13 posted on 11/08/2009 9:09:19 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Is your "representative" keeping his or her oath to "secure the Blessings of Liberty" to posterity?)
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The GOP is Charlie Brown....the rats are Lucy with the football.

EVERY TIME


15 posted on 11/08/2009 9:11:16 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: paltz
They were not “played”, they chose selective ignorance... by socializing the healthcare system, the government bureaucracy and its power hungry liberal overseers will determine all aspects of the medical industry.

Abortion is a “medical procedure”, so by default it will ultimately be covered by the government healthcare system; furthermore, using the perverted “logic” of leftists, the “procedure may in fact be considered a “preferred procedure” in the future, given that it will “reduce” the overall costs of an additional patient.

17 posted on 11/08/2009 9:14:09 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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From what I understood last night the republican’s wanted to vote agaisnt this but since many of the anti abortiongroups couldn’t see past the ends of their noses and past how anti life the whole bill is their hands were forced to vote for it.Very stupid of thse groups to not see that.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 9:17:48 AM PST by chris_bdba
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Suckers.....


26 posted on 11/08/2009 9:29:52 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: paltz
For those who are interested, there was a good FR thread on this topic yesterday. It can be read here:
Pro-Life Advocates Upset Republicans May Vote Present on Stupak Amendment [electoral death warrants]
It lays out the issues pretty well. Those who supported voting "yes" had the poorer arguments, IMHO. One could certainly vote "present" if that vote meant death for this monstrosity of a bill. Voting present wouldn't lose sensible pro-lifers. A vote of "present" would be easy to explain to anyone with an open mind. Those who argued against Shaddag's approach couldn't answer objections cogently or calmly. They tended to resort to abusive, ad hominem tactics.
31 posted on 11/08/2009 10:59:52 AM PST by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: paltz

And they KNEW they were being played...their turn to now play you (well, not you specifically but the idiot sheople of this country)


34 posted on 11/08/2009 11:24:49 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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