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GOP officials say Dems put agenda ahead of country (Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/8/09 | Douglass K. Daniel - ap

Posted on 11/08/2009 10:19:37 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – Democrats just don't get the election message from voters and are pushing a liberal, big government agenda at their party's peril, Republican officials said Sunday as they predicted a political price after the majority's victory on health care.

Voters are "tired of the borrowing, the spending, the bailouts, the takeovers," said Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana, the No. 3 House GOP leader, pointing to GOP victories in gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey last week.

The Democratic-controlled House narrowly approved a health care bill Saturday night, with 39 Democrats voting against it and a single Republican voting in its favor. President Barack Obama's top domestic initiative faces a high hurdle in the Senate, which must pass its own bill and then negotiate a compromise with the House to craft a final measure.

"On a narrow partisan vote, the Democrats put their liberal, big government agenda ahead of the American people," Pence said. "If Democrats keep ignoring the American people, their party's going to be history in about a year."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; country; dems; gop; hr3962; pence
A Marxist agenda, to boot.

It ought to make all those who voted for the dems to pause for thought.

but you need to have a mind.. and a clue to accomplish that.

Sadly, the WH and dem leaders have neither.

all they have is an agenda.

1 posted on 11/08/2009 10:19:37 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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Big ‘Black Hole’ Gubamint


2 posted on 11/08/2009 10:20:00 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge
Pence is correct. I've already contacted Donnelly and told him he's a traitor and I will do everything I can to see him lose his upcoming election.

I'm tired of the tyranny. I want my country back.

3 posted on 11/08/2009 10:21:51 AM PST by pctech
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Rep. John Dingell (D-MI) speaks next to U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (2nd R) during a news conference about the House vote on health care reform on Capitol Hill in Washington November 7, 2009. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas


4 posted on 11/08/2009 10:23:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

Defund the Marxist Fed. That’s the only way to effectviely oppose this bill.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 10:23:56 AM PST by LIConFem (Americans seem to have forgotten the value of dissent.. A firm "F____ You" is a powerful thing.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This health takeover bill is the biggest blow to this country since 9/11.


6 posted on 11/08/2009 10:24:55 AM PST by etradervic (Democrat uber deficit spending proves that the swine flu originated in DC)
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Graphic showing the extent of current US healthcare insurance coverage. Democrats braced for the next battle in pushing the most sweeping US health care overhaul in a half-century through Congress, after handing President Barack Obama victory in a narrow House vote. (AFP/Graphic/File)


7 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:53 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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that chart sure did ramp up when dems were in the WH and now in total control..

coincidence?


8 posted on 11/08/2009 10:31:01 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

What are these hate America facists cheering about? Just look at what they will bring to Americans and our economy, with their health care and cap and trade bills, shown below:


9 posted on 11/08/2009 10:33:26 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Whata a trainwreck!

Grahamnesty has pronounced the bill DOA in the Senate.

We’ll see.. time for the mushy moderates to go to work there.


10 posted on 11/08/2009 10:35:50 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge
If Democrats keep ignoring the American people, their party's going to be history in about a year."

Don't bet on it.

11 posted on 11/08/2009 10:36:30 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, but didn’t you hear? Obama won last year! So that translates to Democrats minds that they can do whatever they want and it’s ok because a slight majority voted for Obama! (do I really need a sarcasm tag here?)


12 posted on 11/08/2009 10:37:48 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I think Pence is attempting to position himself to make a pres. run in 2012. He's every bit as conservative as Duncan Hunter but the problem with DC was lack of name recognition. I notice Pence is getting in front of the cameras as much as possible. I'd be ok with it.
13 posted on 11/08/2009 10:38:35 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: NormsRevenge

Yep and the merry go round continues with the commies of both parties helping each other.

Sorry guys, the American people just took over the reigns.


14 posted on 11/08/2009 10:38:51 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Democratic Party is calling it a bipartisan bill since one Republican voted for it...lol. How crazy are they...


15 posted on 11/08/2009 10:48:53 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: LIConFem
"Defund the Marxist Fed. That’s the only way to effectviely oppose this bill."

And how, exactly, do you do that? They've got some $600+ billion of OUR MONEY sitting in their coffers. They can use it as they please (who's gonna stop them?).

Please elaborate on how one would go about 'defunding' them. I'm all ears (cyberspeaking).

16 posted on 11/08/2009 11:02:09 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: Logical me

Between the stupidity, shallowness, and short memories of too many voters, and rat corruption, I’m afraid you’re right. They’re not going against American voters this blatantly knowing they will lose office, they have to have a back-up plan.


17 posted on 11/08/2009 11:07:40 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: freekitty

18 posted on 11/08/2009 11:07:44 AM PST by fujimoh
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To: NormsRevenge
dems always break promises like the promises they make our Military?????????

TRI CARE FOR LIFE

This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options (Pelosi breaks word to Rep Buyer no amendments)

REPUBLICAN PRESS RELEASE ^ | November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Washington, D.C. — Today, House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs Ranking Member Steve Buyer and House Armed Services Committee Ranking Member Howard P. “Buck” McKeon offered three amendments to the Pelosi healthcare bill that would protect America’s Veterans and military TRICARE beneficiaries. The healthcare legislation, which is expected to be voted on in the full House in the coming days limits veteran’s and service member’s health care choices and places veterans and military health care unnecessarily at risk by not clearly excluding military and veterans health care from the requirements of the bill.

“In addition to being fundamentally opposed to a sweeping government takeover of health care, I also strongly object to the bill that was unveiled today because it would limit veterans’ ability to choose a health care provider,” said Rep. Buyer. “The liberty and freedom upon which our nation is founded was paid for through the sacrifices of veterans, and I find it outrageous that the government veterans defended would presume to dictate where and how they obtain health care. This is not the type of government veterans have fought and died for.”

“America must remain vigilant in our efforts to provide the necessary support to our Veterans, military retirees, and current military personnel,” said Rep. McKeon. “The Democrat healthcare bill that will be voted on in the coming days creates unnecessary uncertainty for our Veterans and military families that their healthcare options will be unfairly limited. Our amendments make certain—in the strongest terms possible—that our nation’s heroes will continue to have options, while protecting their rights to maintain their current high-quality options if they so choose.”

Reps. Buyer and McKeon offered the following three amendments to ensure that our veterans, servicemembers, and their families are not hurt by the bill:

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #001: Would add a new subsection to provide explicitly that veterans enrolled in the VA health care and TRICARE beneficiaries may choose additional health insurance through the “Health Insurance Exchange”, along with care provided by VA or DOD.

The bill reads: “(a) ACCESS TO COVERAGE. – In accordance with this section, all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered through the Health Insurance Exchange unless such individuals are enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or certain other acceptable coverage.” [page 156, line 11-16].

Under H.R. 3962, VA health care and TRICARE would be deemed "qualified" coverage. The problem with the language is that it is ambiguous and can be interpreted to disqualify individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE from participating in the exchange.

This amendment was accepted at the Energy and Commerce Committee markup, but the Democratic Leadership failed to include it in H.R. 3962.

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #002: Would ensure that the authority of the Secretary of VA and Secretary of DOD could never be challenged or obstructed by any provision in the bill or by a secretary or commissioner from another part of government.

As currently written, H.R. 3962 would provide that the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of VA retain sole authority over their respective health care systems only with respect to Subtitle A, the Health Insurance Exchange. This was the original Buyer Amendment adopted in Energy and Commerce Committee. However, it was limited to “Subtitle A” because of germaneness requirements. The intent was that as the Committee bills were merged, the language would be revised to encompass the entire bill.

The section-by-section analysis on the Energy and Commerce Committee Website states that Section 311 “makes clear that nothing in this act interferes with the Department of Veterans Affairs or Department of Defense’s existing authorities.”

In fact, this description is incorrect and our amendment would provide that the bill conform to the website’s assertion.

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #003: Would amend section 342 of the bill to allow individuals enrolled in VA health care and TRICARE to be eligible for affordable tax credits. Currently, H.R. 3962 defines an “affordable credit eligible individual” as one who is not enrolled in acceptable coverage – which would exclude individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE.

19 posted on 11/08/2009 11:08:47 AM PST by GailA (Quilts for the Alpha Omega House for Veterans....I'm a quilt-aholic!!!)
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To: jennyjenny

I prefer Congressman Steve King. Yes, he’s my congressman but I still prefer him to Pence. I heard Pence once on Hannity with Lanny Davis and I got so disgusted with Pence’s gushing over Davis, I changed the station.


20 posted on 11/08/2009 11:13:11 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: NormsRevenge

United States President Mike Pence.

Sounds great.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 11:28:32 AM PST by Z in Washington
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To: GailA

So after you wade through the mind-boggling complexity of the wording and gobbletygook....what’s the concensus?

Don’t bend over?


22 posted on 11/08/2009 11:52:31 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: NormsRevenge

I thought this was kind of a “duh” statement on Pence’s behalf, but spelling it out yet again can’t hurt anything at this point.


23 posted on 11/08/2009 12:29:43 PM PST by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: etradervic
>p>This health takeover bill is the biggest blow to this country since 9/11.

As bad as 9/11 was, at least it didn't threaten horrific fines/jail to ordinary citizens for being Americans.

24 posted on 11/08/2009 12:57:24 PM PST by madison10
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To: NormsRevenge

This is all nice and such, however, unless someone puts together a real easily propogated, easily understood set of slides or even ONE PAGE SUMMARY of bribes that the stimulus used to bribe AMA, AARP, and other groups and companies to bo along with the healthcare bill, all is lost. This summary has to become a talking point for the GOP and become viral internet-wise.


25 posted on 11/08/2009 12:57:56 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Blah, blah, blah, Mike Pence! You are ALL in this together, the destruction of this country. Democrats and Republicans. You are all a bunch of elitist crooks, cheats, liars, felons and all around rotten human beings. You will all burn in hell one day for what you have done. I loathe and despise every one of you and wish nothing for you but the same pain and misery you have inflicted on the American people.

Pence, Boehner and Canton and all the other Republican “leaders” or no better than the Democrats. It was their failure that allowed them to take over in the first place.

F*** the President and F*** the congress!


26 posted on 11/08/2009 1:19:30 PM PST by AmericanSphinx71 ("Give me Liberty, or give me death"- Patrick Henry)
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To: NormsRevenge

Definitely Pelosi did! Throw her out of office!


27 posted on 11/08/2009 1:29:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am so, absolutely, disgusted by this latest display of their egotistical agenda. I had difficulty sleeping last night, as I grasped the overall implications this has on the direction our country is taking.

What puzzles me the most, is how no one seems to know or even pay attention to what happened last night. This is a BIG deal.

The only solace I take in it, is the fact that all of these megalomaniacs will lose their jobs come election time. I have never voted in a local election, but they have encouraged me to do so this time around.


28 posted on 11/08/2009 1:41:46 PM PST by ilse
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To: AmericanSphinx71

You have a suggestion other than bursting a blood vessel?


29 posted on 11/08/2009 1:42:11 PM PST by Eroteme
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To: Eroteme

“You have a suggestion other than bursting a blood vessel?”

No I don’t. the passgae of the 0bama/Pelosi Care bill was the final straw for me.

The Republicans are weak, leaderless and just as corrupt as the Democrats. Half of the Republicans in congress are liberals anyway.

I have resigned my self to the fact all these things (Helath Care, Cap and Tax, Government Run Coperations) are just the law of the land now. I have accepted America is a Communist union now.

But I can still HATE everyone responsible, cant’ I?


30 posted on 11/08/2009 1:45:46 PM PST by AmericanSphinx71 ("Give me Liberty, or give me death"- Patrick Henry)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don’t thinkMike Pence understands what’s going on.

The Democrats are perfectly aware of what we, the people, want. They don’t care what we want or don’t want, because they are lusting after power - supreme, worldwide POWER. The Communists, who are getting it from the moneyed NWO, are giving them that power.

There’s plenty of money to buy every interest, every Congressman and Senator and anybody else who’s buyable. We, who don’t have power, are meaningless dust to them. They ignore our existence, except to order us around and exact money from us.

They will not listen to reason. They have eyes glazed over with the narcotic euphoria of POWER. Yes, they’re POWER DRUNK.


31 posted on 11/08/2009 2:23:23 PM PST by RoadTest ( But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do)
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To: napscoordinator

Who was the traitor Republican?


32 posted on 11/08/2009 2:40:26 PM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

I for one DON’T ACCEPT AMERICA AS A COMMUNIST UNION, as you do, AmericanSphinx71. You are defeated, and WE hear you loud and clear. Now it’s time for you to move on. WE do not want to hear defeatist commentary. WE want to hear the voices of patriots who will NOT GIVE UP...this is OUR country and I’ll be damned if people who are patriots will fall on their backs and give it up to the subversives in the White House. Let us look deep within ourselves for the wherewithal to continue this fight...it’s our greatest challenge...and the alternative to fighting this takeover is communism, and I will not let them take away my country, my freedom, my liberty. Stay strong everyone...vent your angst and then get to work on turning this around AND TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY. God bless us all.


33 posted on 11/08/2009 2:41:52 PM PST by itssme
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To: NormsRevenge

No real heroes in the Democrat Party. A bunch of people afraid of Obama and Pelosi. A bunch of people afraid to rock the boat. They know the media will protect them.


34 posted on 11/08/2009 3:49:00 PM PST by FreedBird (G)
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To: NormsRevenge
I could easily support Mike Pence for President 2012
35 posted on 11/08/2009 5:13:37 PM PST by ajay_kumar (Third party has never won in US, but some people are born masochists)
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To: ohiogrammy

Is he from the district where the dimocrat lost his seat due to cash found in freezer? I did hear it is a majority A-A district.


36 posted on 11/08/2009 5:15:38 PM PST by ajay_kumar (Third party has never won in US, but some people are born masochists)
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To: ajay_kumar

I finally found an article about him, replaced Jefferson who hid the money in his freezer. Some poor district looking for the government to solve all their problems.


37 posted on 11/08/2009 5:24:11 PM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: XenaLee

As the Black Avenger would say BOHECA!


38 posted on 11/08/2009 5:26:29 PM PST by GailA (Quilts for the Alpha Omega House for Veterans....I'm a quilt-aholic!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

39 posted on 11/08/2009 5:26:48 PM PST by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: ohiogrammy

He was interviewed by the democart Geraldo Rivera a few minutes ago. He looks and sounds like a Vietnamese chap.


40 posted on 11/08/2009 8:16:09 PM PST by ajay_kumar (Third party has never won in US, but some people are born masochists)
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