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To: Sloth

I'm not a YEC, but this statement does not follow from anything else you said.

Sorry, but there's just not enough space to repudiate the science against a world-wide flood, not to mention the various meanings of the Hebrew word eretz. Here is a good start from a Christian perspective and here is another.

I can go into further detail regarding the amount of heat and erosion that would be generated by a planet-wide flood, but that kind of research is easy to find using Google. Suffice it to say that, assuming a planet-wide flood, Noah's ark would have been floating in boiling wather and we would not find the nice, neat, species-matching sedimentary layers that we see all over the world.

22 posted on 11/09/2009 11:45:11 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

There is no “science” against the world wide flood/judgment; just dogma.

25 posted on 11/09/2009 12:17:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: DallasMike

Dallas, and others,

What everyone engaged in this ‘debate’ are doing is showing a fractured front as ‘Christians”

Jesus rebuked his disciples when they tried to exclude the children from coming to see Him. In Matthew, Mark, and Luke, it is recorded that He said “But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” And “Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.” If you cannot believe, as a child would, simply and completely, you shall not eneter.

I was raised in a secular world. Science could explain all. In many cases it can. But where Gods Word is different, I prefer to be as the small child and trust in the Lord.

For “of such” is the Kingdom of Heaven. Why? Trusting belief. Those who would believe in Jesus, in God, in Heaven as though a small child, “Of such is the Kingdom of Heaven.”

I am a relatively newly saved Christian. As such, I am as a new creation. I am to walk by Faith, not by sight.

What does that mean? There may be ‘evidence’ that things happened differently than what is recorded in the Bible. But I am to have Faith that that written Word of God is True. All of it. Not just the parts that make sense, not just the parts I think sound pretty, not just the parts that do not cause me conviction. All Of It.

Having said that, who is willing to point a finger at God or His Word and shout “YOU LIE!!!” Is that not what you are doing when you try to discredit His Word?

For you Christians who say that Genesis is wrong, what other Books of the Bible are you willing to rip out to make it correct? Where else do you see God lying? Jonah and the fish? Perhaps the parting of the Red Sea? Perhaps Jesus walking on water?, bringing the dead to life?, changing water to wine? or perhaps even the Resurrection? Where else does God Lie to you?

I would say you need to take a look at your salvation, forget this silly evo-creation ‘debate’ and ask yourself if you are truly saved or not? Do you know Jesus? Do you know Him as your Savior? Do you know His Word?


29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Notice what man was given to eat: “All the fruit of the trees, to you it shall be for meat.”

Notice what the animals were given to eat: “And to every beast of the earth.....I have given every green herb for meat...”

Nowhere does it describe any animals being given for meat, either for man or animal. (Veggie TRex, you bet)

You doubt the Word of God, you even doubt Jesus, as He is “The Word”.

Bottom line is Faith, in God, In His Son, in His Word. God does Not Lie. And it is the purpose of this ‘debate’ to try to discredit not only “A Book of the Bible”, but the first and arguably cornerstone book of the Bible. If it can be said that Genesis is False, well then, lets keep going, what OTHER books are wrong.

I myself, will choose to have that simple faith that God doesn’t lie. It is better to trust in the Lord, than to believe in man. Evolution is a man-made construct to try to explain the world, as seen. It is a Theory. It is not proven, nor provable. It is an attempt to render man as not divinely created, not any different than any other life form on this planet. It is an attempt to de-humanize.

33 posted on 11/09/2009 12:49:46 PM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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