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Soft Muscle Tissue Found in Fossil Salamander (evos claim it is 18 million years old!)
CEH ^ | November 6, 2009

Posted on 11/09/2009 9:44:55 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts
They found the “organic soft tissue” after they had demineralized the fossilized bone.

What part of demineralized and fossilized do you not understand?

So yes it is most definitely cherry picking since you fail to mention the demineralization of the fossilized bone.

Your blatant attempt to distort and deny history will not work.

121 posted on 11/09/2009 7:17:55 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

I didn’t overlook anything. You can say those words all you want but if you don’t understand the process of what they did it really doesn’t matter.

Here is another quote “ In modern bone, removing the minerals leaves supple, soft organic materials that are much easier to work with in a lab. In contrast, fossilized bone is BELIEVED to be completely mineralized, meaning no organics are present. Attempting to dissolve the minerals from a piece of fossilized bone, so the theory goes, would merely dissolve the entire fossil. But the team was surprised by what actually happened when they removed the minerals from the T. rex femur fragment. The removal process left behind stretchy bone matrix material that, when examined microscopically, seemed to show blood vessels, osteocytes, or bone building cells, and other recognizable organic features.”

IOW the bone was mineralized but the soft tissue was not. That is how the bone was demineralized to get to the soft tissue.

BTW, I never said that there was no amount of evidence that would cause me to accept the evolutionary theory. You have some uninformed belief that I do not look at the facts. I see the same facts you do, I just do not agree with your interpretation.


122 posted on 11/09/2009 7:18:16 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

BTW I have no idea how this post is in response to the one you posted it to. I was actually agreeing with you.


123 posted on 11/09/2009 7:19:35 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Ira_Louvin

I think it’s like mouflon bone. yeehaw! Right, Ira?


124 posted on 11/09/2009 7:20:03 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Those poor, poor mouflon. It's like the last of the Mohicans or something. Genetic swamping is such a horrible fate. Somebody should do something.

Remember the mouflon!

125 posted on 11/09/2009 7:24:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Ira_Louvin; christianhomeschoolmommaof3; count-your-change

What CHMof3 said!!!


126 posted on 11/09/2009 7:25:43 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

So then what evidence would it take for you to accept the evolutionary theory?


127 posted on 11/09/2009 7:26:03 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So then what evidence would it take for you to accept the evolutionary theory?


128 posted on 11/09/2009 7:27:03 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: count-your-change

Similar learning curve, don’t you know.


129 posted on 11/09/2009 7:28:28 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ira_Louvin

So far I have examined the so called evidences for evolution and all they really are is biaed interpretation of the evidence. Show me something new and I will tell you if it convinces me. You have to remember that I don’t accept natural selection, speciation, and mutations as evidence of goo to you evolution.


130 posted on 11/09/2009 7:32:15 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: All

Goodnight everyone. 6am workout comes at ya fast!


131 posted on 11/09/2009 7:33:37 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

That’s not even a question anymore. Darwin’s fanciful creation myth has been thoroughly discredited by science. So much so, that even the evos are abandoning the HMS Beagle in search of a new God-denying evolutionary ship.


132 posted on 11/09/2009 7:34:52 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

You’re crazy!


133 posted on 11/09/2009 7:35:45 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Then you lack a basic understanding of the evolutionary theory.

The evolutionary theory does not address the origins of life; it only shows how life has changed since its inception. Natural selection, speciation, and mutations are the basis of the evolutionary theory. To deny that fact is the same as denial of the roundness of the earth, or the speed of light..


134 posted on 11/09/2009 7:39:30 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"That’s not even a ... "

You got a book out?

I mean something really, really meaningful? With scholarly references and such (so others may learn from your experiences and knowledge)?

If not, it can make you or it can break you; will it, can it stand the test of time - your ideas that is, can THEY stand the test of time?

No need to debate me (or others) if you've got 'that book' out there ... it's never too late to start, either.

135 posted on 11/09/2009 7:44:32 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"No, the Bronto’s tail was not whip-like."

Wrong again, Buck-o. An article that appeared in the November 1997 issue of Discover Magazine reported research into the mechanics of Apatosaurus tails by Nathan Myhrvold, a computer scientist from Microsoft. Myhrvold carried out a computer simulation of the tail, which in diplodocids like Apatosaurus was a very long, tapering structure resembling a bullwhip. This computer modeling suggested that sauropods were capable of producing a whip-like cracking sound of over 200 decibels, comparable to the volume of a cannon.

136 posted on 11/09/2009 7:44:39 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts
Pseudoscientists often reveal themselves by their handling of the scientific literature. Their idea of doing scientific research is simply to read scientific periodicals and monographs. They focus on words, not on the underlying facts and reasoning. They take science to be all statements by scientists. Science degenerates into a secular substitute for sacred literature. Any statement by any scientist can be cited against any other statement. Every statement counts and every statement is open to interpretation. - Science and Unreason, Radner and Radner

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137 posted on 11/09/2009 7:47:30 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
"The Bible doesn’t give a name for alot of modern animals."

Why do you suppose that is? Is it because God only revealed what was necessary and germane?

138 posted on 11/09/2009 7:48:03 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Ira_Louvin
Excellent quote. Too many untrained in scientific disciplines believe that Google searches and quote mining are satisfactory research methods.
139 posted on 11/09/2009 7:50:14 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law; editor-surveyor; Ira_Louvin

Notice any similarities between NL’s reply and the following? Also notice that Wikipedia considers the whiplike 200 decibel cracking sound as “dubious” (all of which NL cut out of his, shall we say, unoriginal post):

An article that appeared in the November 1997 issue of Discover Magazine reported research into the mechanics of Apatosaurus tails by Nathan Myhrvold, a computer scientist from Microsoft. Myhrvold carried out a computer simulation of the tail, which in diplodocids like Apatosaurus was a very long, tapering structure resembling a bullwhip. This computer modeling suggested that sauropods were capable of producing a whip-like cracking sound of over 200 decibels,[dubious – discuss] comparable to the volume of a cannon.[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatosaurus


140 posted on 11/09/2009 8:00:56 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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