"It's a white guy in a white suit in a white van with a white gun."
Posted on 11/10/2009 11:45:20 AM PST by jpl
WASHINGTON - The man at the center of the investigation for the sniper shootings says he won't be at John Allen Muhammad's execution Tuesday night.
"I don't think I will be personally interested. I have seen a lot of death and destruction and I don't think I am interested anymore," former Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose tells Channel 5.
Moose was the face of law enforcement during those three terrifying weeks in October 2002.
Muhammad is scheduled to be executed at 9 p.m. for the killing of Dean Harold Meyers at a Manassas gas station. Meyers is one of 10 people across Maryland, Virginia and the District killed by Muhammad and fellow sniper Lee Boyd Malvo.
Now retired and living in North Carolina, Moose, 53, says the experience changed him.
"I think the whole experience has shown me and changed me in the sense that I will always be forthright and open with information. I think that is the big lesson for me and one that I wish I would have known when I was 14-years-old. I would have lived my life differently."
But Moose is proud of how he and the police handled the 23-day standoff.
"Three weeks is a short amount of time I think for the kind of fear and death that we were facing. Would I have preferred that it would have been taken care of in one day, certainly, but at the same hand I feel like the three weeks was overly long that it was overly extensive investigation I don't fault us in that sense," Moose tells Channel 5.
Moose does have one regret -- the perception that he disliked the media.
"I appreciate and understand the role of the media, the necessity of law enforcement and the media work together. So this whole thing that I was angry with the media or didn't like the media or didn't understand the media, not that it matters, but I guess if there was something to clear up I would like to clear up the fact that I am smart enough to know the two need to work together," says Moose.
Moose who retired after writing a book, "Three Weeks in October," says he misses the men and women he served with, but is happy with his decision to retire.
He’s still holding out for the white guy in the white van.
The fact is he had nothing to do with their capture and probably harmed the investigation.
I wonder why he is still depicted as the guy in charge?
They apparently refused to schedule the execution inside a white panel van, so...
He is just upset it was not a middle aged white christian like he thought it was.
There was a National Geographic special about the sniper attacks last night...I think it didn’t mention Moose a single time.
Yup. What a complete buffoon, and an incompetent too boot.
Probably harmed the investigation?
IMO only rank incompetence can excuse him from being an accessory after the fact.
If there’s any justice, Malvo will be on the receiving end of a shiv right about the same time. I’m still p!ssed that I wasn’t called for jury duty for that one.
He lost interest after he learned the culprits weren't white guys in a white van.
His interest was briefly piqued when he had a book to pimp.
We're seeing the exact same politically correct B.S. from some quarters today in the Ft. Hood case as well. Some things just never change.
I don't recall all the details but I do recall that Moose made Inspector Clouseau and the Keystone Cops look competent with his fixation on an angry white guy in a white van.
In the end, wasn't it an alert trucker who saw a car matching the real perp's description at a rest stop and called in the state police to do the job Moose couldn't get done?
It did harm the investigation. The DC sniper duo had been stopped at several of the roadblocks and were permitted to pass because the didn't meet the eroneous profile.
You'd think after being caught at the scene of SEVERAL events, they'd make a blip on the radar of investigators.
And when their letters were sent, we were still told it wasn't "terrorism".
How many more victims were there because Moose was deceptive and not willing to let anyone think it was other than a redneck in a white van? After tonight, maybe we’ll never hear his name again. Please God.
Yup...many more were shot due to Moose’s incompetance and his orders that black men weren’t to be detained, his insistence that the profile of the shooter showed it was a white male. Muhammad and Malvo were let through checkpoints because of not fitting Moose’s profile.
I lived in Tucson a few blocks from Mohammed’s sister who was in the airforce at the time stationed at Davis-Monthan AFB. Muhammad and Malvo were staying with her at the time that a man was shot and killed on the Fred Enke Golf Course just down the street from her house.
I’m curious how many more victims there were in other states. I recall that they determined that someone shot in Alabama (I think) was a “practice run” for the DC attacks.
Were there other “unsolved” murders (or murders wrongly attributed to others)?
Yep, that was exactly it. The trucker was the real hero; he even blocked the exit so there was no easy chance for them to escape.
There’s going to be all kinds of cya going on as soon as the PC crowd shut their muslim loving pie holes. I’ve noticed an uptick in stories on nonmuslim “terrorists” the last couple of days. Hmmm. Looks like the state controlled media are trying to shift the focus away from our enemy, and onto others.
I don’t like incomplete reporting. He left the Mont. Co. police under some less than good circumstances, and for a time was a policeman in Honolulu. They make it sound like he retired directly from Mont. Co. Just being picky...........
Chief Moose wasted time,
While the snipers stayed at large,
On P. C. Bullshit.
LOL! Didn’t know that. What was his status in lotus land? Patrolman, chief?
Moose was a accomplice to murder by means of official incompetence and also malfeasance. Malfeasance: when he put out the word they were looking for a white man in a white van when he damn well already knew from the phone tapes it was a black man.
That is my considered opinion.
“Now retired and living in North Carolina, Moose, 53...”
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Retired at 53!
Ok, I guess I missed it. Did Moose invent a perpetual motion machine? Cold Fusion? The endless battery? A Viagra extraction process from lawn clippings?
If not, then just your typical “public servant” with gilt-edged pension and healthcare paid for by the taxpayers for the next 30+ years.
Ahem....typical....
We have buckets of tar in the lovely Commonwealth of Virginia. We also have chicken feathers ...
Perhaps you'd best stay far, far away.
Good post — BTTT
The last thing I remember reading, Moose had moved to Hawaii and was a rookie officer with a police department there.
Thanks for reminding me. I do not recall the trucker’s skin color, but I’m guessing it automatically disqualified him from being recognized as the real hero in this sordid affair, right?
Thanks for reminding me. I do not recall the trucker’s skin color, but I’m guessing it automatically disqualified him from being recognized as the real hero in this sordid affair, right?
He was just a patrol officer, I think. I read a puff piece about him several years ago, which described his training at the police academy in Honolulu. In spite of his years of police experience, he still had to go through the training like any other recruit. And they said he would graduate and be like any other rookie policeman.
FRom Wikipedia it seems the Moose Career path was
HAHA! Then he wasn’t invited to be chief. The vast majority of chiefs are political hacks of the general casey sort. They frequently float around from agency to agency as chief, kissing the a$$ of their political masters and generally making their cops miserable and pissed off.
Moose was Police Chief in Portland Oregon prior to being hired in Maryland. City of Portland fired him...a real loser....liberal PDX firing a negro...whoooaaaa!
That’s right, there were a few murders across the country before Muhammed hit the DC area. I believe they are suspected but none were proved to have been them. The ole mind is a little sketchy on those details. But I DO remember on at a liquor store in the south that they were suspected of doing.
I just checked, and you can buy used copies of his book on Amazon for twenty-nine cents, lol.
Jerry Taylor from Tucson, Arizona was gunned down on a golf course several months before the D.C. shooting spree began. Lee Malvo reportedly confessed to the killing.
Taylor’s daughter will be present at tonight’s execution.
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/316977.php
Most PD’s and military retire at a young age after a full career. It’s possible he made enough $ on his book sales and speaking appearances to supplement his police pension. Also he may be living a modest lifestyle. I would have thought him a good bit older than 53, tho.
“Most PD’s and military retire at a young age after a full career.”
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It is unfortunate that those of us who pay our own way are not able to take advantage of that luxury.
Sorry to hear that. I was kinda hoping he'd join Mohammad for cocktails.
“It is unfortunate that those of us who pay our own way are not able to take advantage of that luxury.”
Most of us don’t spend our careers putting our lives on the line every single day for 20 or more years, either .. or in the case of the military, lengthy periods away from family. I have no problem with those who take on high-risk/modest income careers retiring early.
A soldier’s family and a policeman’s family know each and every day that their loved on is on duty that s/he may not come home and that two uniformed officers may appear at their front door bearing very bad news. That’s more than ‘paying their own way,” and warrants an early retirement.
SOME, but far from all police officers and military personnel merit early retirement, but a period of more than half of one’s adult life is utterly ridiculous.
I remember my wife and I saying in unison, “It’s not a white panel truck!” The witnesses never said it was. IDIOTS! (They still trot out that idiot profiler on MSNBC. He was a joke back then!)
Did the truck driver who caught him ever get his reward?
Those saying Fort Hood is the first terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 (OK, I heard Hannity say it today) get real! DC Sniper was totally an Islamic extremist kill spree. There was also that kid who flew a plane into a building in Tampa and the LAX attack in 2002. These were on Bush/Cheney’s watch, so you won’t hear that on hacktalk radio.
Spend 26 years of your life in the military or law enforcement for the government, get yourself attacked several times by criminals or illegal aliens and permanently disabled because of the injuries or shot over in Iraq or Afghanistan and then you won’t have to cry about someone else’s retirement after 25+ years of service.
If you want to work in prisons for 28 years you can have the same “luxury” that I have.
Not “crying”, just being rational about extending this ridiculous benefit to ALL military and police. An across the board program of 30+ years of paid retirement is insanity.
The vast majority of police and military do not:
“get yourself attacked several times by criminals or illegal aliens and permanently disabled because of the injuries or shot over in Iraq or Afghanistan.”
Additionally, there are other compensation mechanisms available for those that are “permanently disabled”.
I live in the WDC area. Chief Moose is a racist hack. He is responsible for the deaths in that he said after it was reported that two black men were speeding away from a shooting in a big car with the lights off that two white men in a white van were the culprits. He is a racist, incompetent and a fool. What a complete moron.
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