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Sen. Reed: Forcing People to Buy Health Insurance is Constitutionally Justified Because
CNS News ^ | 11/10/09

Posted on 11/11/2009 7:16:02 PM PST by FromLori

When asked where specifically the Constitution authorized Congress to mandate that individuals buy health insurance, Sen. Jack Reed (D.-R.I.) said that he “would have to check the specific sections” but said that it was like making people “sign up for the draft.”

“Specifically where in the Constitution does Congress get its authority to mandate that individuals purchase health insurance?” CNSNews.com asked Reed.

“Let me see,” said Reed. “I would have to check the specific sections, so I’ll have to get back to you on the specific section. But it is not unusual that the Congress has required individuals to do things, like sign up for the draft and do many other things too, which I don’t think are explicitly contained [in the Constitution]. It gives Congress a right to raise an army, but it doesn’t say you can take people and draft them. But since that was something necessary for the functioning of the government over the past several years, the practice on the books, it’s been recognized, the authority to do that.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; socialized
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1 posted on 11/11/2009 7:16:04 PM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori

...we said so. So there. :p


2 posted on 11/11/2009 7:21:35 PM PST by madison10 (Y)
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To: FromLori

Yet another rat weighs in with ignorant comments.


3 posted on 11/11/2009 7:21:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: FromLori
He’s so sure of mandatory health insurance constitutionality that he doesn’t know where the clause is in the constitution. Hmmmmmmmm and..... we’re suppose to believe all he says when he doesn’t even know if the health care mandate is constitutional.
4 posted on 11/11/2009 7:23:07 PM PST by mia
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To: FromLori
Congress should be made to eat this shit sandwich right along with the rest of us. who once said no one is above the law?
5 posted on 11/11/2009 7:23:40 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: FromLori

We’ve been stomping on people’s rights for a long time, so it’s a tradition! Where are your “Traditional Values”?


6 posted on 11/11/2009 7:23:48 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: FromLori

He did not say it was Constitutional.

He said it was Constitutionally justified. Weasel words for “we can do anything we want to you”.

But he of course cannot.


7 posted on 11/11/2009 7:24:11 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: FromLori

““Let me see,” said Reed. “I would have to check the specific sections, so I’ll have to get back to you on the specific section.”

Lying POS. He knows better.


8 posted on 11/11/2009 7:24:46 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: FromLori

I can tell him what section(s) he thinks it is, but like most Libtards he thinks it means something it doesn’t.


9 posted on 11/11/2009 7:25:17 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: FromLori

Hah!... there is more explicit and direct authority given to the people by the constitution to overthrow the government if it becomes oppressive, than there is to authorize deathcare.

They don’t think they are being oppressive.

Watch what happens when half of our doctors leave their profession over this.


10 posted on 11/11/2009 7:25:26 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Senormechanico

I think Ron Paul said in his stump speech last year that the first thing he does when looking at a bill is seeing where in the constitution congress has the right to pass such legislation. Probably the only one doing that.


11 posted on 11/11/2009 7:26:59 PM PST by votemout
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To: FromLori
"But it is not unusual that the Congress has required individuals to do things, like sign up for the draft and do many other things too, which I don’t think are explicitly contained [in the Constitution]."

The military draft is also unconstitutional (IMHO) Reid! The federal government doesn't own the American populace.

12 posted on 11/11/2009 7:32:19 PM PST by StormEye
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To: mia

The Constitution is 14 pages, but he can be excused for not knowing where it can be found. The health bill is 2000 pages, but we are to go along with it and assume he knows every nook and crannie of that document. These people are assuming you are stupid. The scary part is that they are getting away with it.


13 posted on 11/11/2009 7:32:39 PM PST by When do we get liberated? (STATE CONTROLLED ECONOMIES SUCK ! LONG LIVE AMERICA.)
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To: Safrguns

If half the doctors leave the profession, that is no big deal. Plenty of substandard brain donors will be ready to fill the gap. Now how about that heart transplant.....


14 posted on 11/11/2009 7:36:13 PM PST by When do we get liberated? (STATE CONTROLLED ECONOMIES SUCK ! LONG LIVE AMERICA.)
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To: Safrguns

You know I was at my endocrinologist today and he told me he is retiring in 2011 early before obamacare and he called it obamacare I was so sad I really like him.


15 posted on 11/11/2009 7:36:22 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: votemout

He is also one of the only one’s who votes by the Constitution all the time too.


16 posted on 11/11/2009 7:37:54 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Graybeard58
These totalitarian assholes haven't even thought about the Constitution in years. They need some very rude awakenings.
17 posted on 11/11/2009 7:38:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Truth -- to a liberal, what sunrise is to a vampire)
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To: FromLori
The draft is authorized by Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12-16 of the U.S. Constitution:

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


The Constitution does not directly mention the word "draft" or even the older "conscription," but its authorization for the Congress to "raise and support Armies" is a clear indication of the same concept - to use the resources of the nation to create or man an army.

The same cannot be said for health care, as it is found nowhere in the U.S. Constitution...

Cheers
18 posted on 11/11/2009 7:40:04 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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To: FromLori
...but said that it was like making people “sign up for the draft.”

Women need not apply? How Taliban-esque of you Senator!

19 posted on 11/11/2009 7:42:28 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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My God, I can see this country getting flooded with Dr. Nicks.

“Hi everbody!!!”

“HI DR. NICK!!!”


20 posted on 11/11/2009 7:42:40 PM PST by ak267
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To: FromLori
The constitutional issue will have to be addressed long before it affects individuals. States will convene their own constitutional committees to simply opt out of any health care bill the government tries to impose.

I see State's rights vs. federal authority becoming the battleground, just as it was right before the Civil War.
21 posted on 11/11/2009 7:46:30 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: FromLori

I’m sure the Supreme Court will find justification in Scottish law or the Magna Carta.


22 posted on 11/11/2009 7:47:07 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Texas Fossil
He said it was Constitutionally justified. Weasel words for “we can do anything we want to you”.

Think "Constitutionally Justified" would work if associated with a rope and a tree? (hypothetical situation, only for discussion)

23 posted on 11/11/2009 7:48:29 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: FromLori
It gives Congress a right to raise an army, but it doesn’t say you can take people and draft them. But since that was something necessary for the functioning of the government over the past several years...

Hey MORON...we have NOT had a draft over the past several years. Good grief! This is an example of the idiots that are making laws for me to abide by? FUJR

24 posted on 11/11/2009 7:50:14 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: FromLori
0bummerCare is like making all people buy the exact same bicycle.

Most folks have a bike and like their own, but don't want the government to take their current bike and force them to buy a government designed bike.

There are 37 vendors, but they are required to only carry the government designed bike.

Some very few people have no need of a bike. Too bad, the government is now forcing everyone to buy the government issued bike.

Repair parts for the bike will not be available. If your government issued bike breaks, too bad so sad, you're stuck at home until you starve to death.

If you choose to walk, take the train, boat or use any other form of transportation, the government imprisons you.

The government designed bike will cost $10,000 in a few years.

The government designed bike has known design flaws that will cause it to self destruct in 12 years.

The government will be able to track everywhere you go on your bike.

Brings to mind a visual:


25 posted on 11/11/2009 7:53:21 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (America, 1776 - 2009. R.I.P.)
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To: StormEye
The military draft is also unconstitutional (IMHO) Reid! The federal government doesn't own the American populace.

The draft is not mandated equally across the populace unlike the proposed health care bill.

26 posted on 11/11/2009 7:54:23 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: This_far

This is going to hit the fan soon. Have been saying it, but there is more evidence of it daily.

“Can you here us NOW?”

Guess not.


27 posted on 11/11/2009 8:10:07 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: FromLori

They’ll use the income tax amendment to do it.

All they have to do is give everyone with the require insurance a rebate on their income taxes. Those without the rebate end up effectively paying a penalty.

Yet another reason to get rid of the income tax.


28 posted on 11/11/2009 8:14:26 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: Texas Fossil
“Can you here us NOW?”

Guess not.

Yeah, I agree with ya. Think it's like getting a donkey's attention, first ya get a 2x4...

I find it particularly offensive that the HC bill, which WILL hinder our freedom, is voted in so near to Veterans Day.

29 posted on 11/11/2009 8:20:43 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: FromLori

Perhaps some knows what language in the Massachusetts constitution permitted that state to require people to buy health insurance.


30 posted on 11/11/2009 8:39:26 PM PST by wideminded
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To: FromLori

Perhaps someone here knows what language in the Massachusetts constitution permitted that state to require people to buy health insurance.


31 posted on 11/11/2009 8:40:03 PM PST by wideminded
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To: FromLori

This means we are winning.
Keep fighting.
Forward with confidence!
Forward!


32 posted on 11/11/2009 8:45:42 PM PST by RedMDer
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To: FromLori

If Obamacare garbage is eventually passed, I am so looking forward to it being contested on the basis of its constitutionality. Just my opinion, but I agree with Judge Napolitano, there is no constitutional basis or grounding for the requirements of ObamaCare.


33 posted on 11/11/2009 8:58:49 PM PST by cranked
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To: FromLori

That little draft thing worked out really well with young voters, right?


34 posted on 11/11/2009 9:20:45 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Domandred
I can tell him what section(s) he thinks it is, but like most Libtards he thinks it means something it doesn’t.

Are you sure he meant that section, and not the other section(s) that Libtards think means something it doesn't, but is also used to justify so much of their legislation?

35 posted on 11/11/2009 10:33:26 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I was thinking of two clauses that libs try to use all the time, though not sure which one Harry was thinking of.

Course the fact he couldn’t even seem to come up with a paraphrase of either tells me he may not have even read the sections himself and was just pulling at strings hoping one would hold.


36 posted on 11/11/2009 11:33:37 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: FromLori

In other words, we can “make it up as we go along, and do anything we want to do.”


37 posted on 11/11/2009 11:57:57 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Partisans only for principle. - America's Independent Party - AIPNews.com)
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To: Domandred

“provide for the general welfare” and “regulate interstate commerce” were my two picks; same as yours?


38 posted on 11/12/2009 12:35:58 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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