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Gates Lashes Out at Leakers
American Forces Press Service ^ | Donna Miles

Posted on 11/12/2009 3:54:06 PM PST by SandRat

EN ROUTE TO OSHKOSH, Wis., Nov. 12, 2009 – Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates today condemned a spate of leaks regarding both the Afghanistan strategy deliberations and last week's shootings at Fort Hood, Texas, threatening to fire anyone in the Defense Department he finds is involved.

"I am appalled by the amount of leaking that has been going on," Gates told reporters traveling with him today in the wake of media reports following yesterday's national security session on Afghanistan, President Barack Obama's eighth in the past two months.

Gates said he has little doubt that some of those leaks have come from within the Defense Department. "If I found out who" was involved, he said, "it would probably be a career ender."

Leaking information as Obama is weighing critical factors serves neither the interest of the country nor the military, the secretary said. He refrained from sharing his own views about the best option, but said Obama appears to be leaning toward one that combines parts of various alternatives presented so far.

The question, he said, comes down to "How do we signal resolve, and at the same time, signal to the Afghans and the American people that this is not open-ended?"

Returning to the leaking issue, Gates condemned information made public about the alleged Fort Hood gunman that he said could jeopardize the investigation.

"Everybody out there with their own little piece of the action" doesn't understand how it fits into the big picture, he said. "Everybody out there ought to just shut up."

Gates spoke with reporters en route to Oshkosh, Wis., where he said he wants to thank factory workers at the Oshkosh Corp. who have stepped up production of all-terrain versions of the mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicle specifically designed for Afghanistan's rugged terrain.

The M-ATVs, as the special MRAP vehicles are known, are part of the defensive response to roadside bombs responsible for more than 80 percent of casualties in Afghanistan, Gates said. Going after the networks that build and plant them is the offensive part of the response, he added.

Gates also announced a new task force focused on protecting U.S. troops in Afghanistan against improvised explosive devices. The new counter-IED task force will oversee the full range of efforts already under way, including the Joint IED Defeat Organization, MRAP production and other measures.

"It will bring together the range of capabilities we already have, and make them more collaborated and more integrated," Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell explained.

Gates conceded that while M-ATVs provide more troop protection, very large IEDs being seen in Afghanistan pose a huge threat. "There is nothing that can protect our troops against everything," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: gates; lashing; leakers; out

1 posted on 11/12/2009 3:54:10 PM PST by SandRat
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To: SandRat

Its called politics, Gates, get with the program.


2 posted on 11/12/2009 3:55:00 PM PST by cranked
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To: SandRat

Whats a little leakage between friends there big guy?


3 posted on 11/12/2009 3:55:16 PM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: SandRat
He refrained from sharing his own views about the best option, but said Obama appears to be leaning toward one that combines parts of various alternatives presented so far.

Clever, then he can pick and choose the blame when things go wrong.

Sickening.

4 posted on 11/12/2009 3:57:29 PM PST by Jean S
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To: SandRat
"Everybody out there with their own little piece of the action" doesn't understand how it fits into the big picture, he said. "Everybody out there ought to just shut up."

Obama taught him well.

5 posted on 11/12/2009 3:58:33 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Socialism is the plundering of the productive by the unaccountable)
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To: SandRat

Hey Gates : Daniel Ellsburg, Pentagon Papers ring a bell?


6 posted on 11/12/2009 3:59:04 PM PST by alpo
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To: SandRat
Betcha Barry chewed Gates’ butt over the leaks about his dithering on Afghanistan. Makes Barry look bad, as it should.
7 posted on 11/12/2009 3:59:21 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: SandRat
While I'm all fro the leaks coming out about the Afghanistan war, I'm going to side with Gates with respect to the Ft. Hood terrorist. These leaks could theoretically compromise the prosecution's case. And, they could come back to bite the prosecution on appeal, well after Obama leaves office.

As much as I'd like to know about this shooter, I'm hoping the leaks on his case stop, quickly.

8 posted on 11/12/2009 4:00:08 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: SandRat

I am appalled he is the Secretary of Defense — does that count?


9 posted on 11/12/2009 4:02:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Compromise the case against a cold-blooded, murdering terrorist?

What appeals court would order that guy released on a technicality?

10 posted on 11/12/2009 4:03:33 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: SandRat

WOW

Be a shame if we knew what was going on within our only country...wouldnt it...


11 posted on 11/12/2009 4:04:17 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SandRat

Yo, Robby, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out. Besides, didn’t your boss promise transparency?


12 posted on 11/12/2009 4:05:04 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: SandRat

Someone needs to tell the truth, Gates.


13 posted on 11/12/2009 4:05:33 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SandRat

“Everybody out there ought to just shut up.”

Yawn. Another politician telling the restless peasants to just shut up.

Well, I didn’t shut up: I sent this worthless numbnuts an email sharing a piece of my mind the other day after his Fort Hood statement.


14 posted on 11/12/2009 4:05:43 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: SandRat

Leaking is negatively correlated with trust. Since many of the DOD personnel don’t trust the 0bama administration there will be lots of leaks.

If the DOD had not tried to blow smoke up everyone’s butts on who Hasan was and their own incompetence there would not be as much motivation to leak. If 0bama had not had 8 briefings about Afghanistan and still unwilling to make a decision, there would not be leaks by people frustrated with his ditherings.

The only problems I had with leaks in the Bush administration were when they endangered the lives of our soldiers or citizens by providing information or incentives to our enemies.


15 posted on 11/12/2009 4:08:08 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: SandRat

“The question, he said, comes down to “How do we signal resolve, and at the same time, signal to the Afghans and the American people that this is not open-ended?”

Send a telegram...or in today’s world, text them!

Do NOT ‘send signals’ with American lives!


16 posted on 11/12/2009 4:08:20 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: SandRat
Gates. Go shine Obama’s shoes.
17 posted on 11/12/2009 4:08:26 PM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"What appeals court would order that guy released on a technicality? "

I don't think he'd walk, but appellate courts seem to be always looking for ways to set aside a DP sentence. The prosecution in this capital case, like all capital cases, has to be as "clean" as possible.

And, don't forget that unlike the civilian court, in military court, the prosecution has to avoid something called "unlawful command influence". If HQDA, DOD, SecDef or even the President were seen as trying to influence the jury or public opinion, it would be grounds for appeal. The defense already made comments as such just a few days ago - like all defense attorneys in military capital cases, UCI is their best friend.

18 posted on 11/12/2009 4:09:38 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: SandRat

Where ya been? It’s journalistic currency. In Washington, leaks are the coin of the realm.


19 posted on 11/12/2009 4:18:05 PM PST by Oratam
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To: SandRat

I’d never seen so much leaking as when Bush was Pres. Not a whole lot was done about it then, so good luck.


20 posted on 11/12/2009 4:22:42 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: SandRat

Hey Gates, do you wash Obama’s underwear by hand?? Do you clean his behind?

Seriously, I hated the leaks during Bush’s 7 years of trying to win a war against the terrorists and protect our country. But then, Obama isn’t trying to win a war, and he damn sure doesn’t care about the security of our country... he’s just playing politics and he’s too stupid to know how to lead a war effort.

Obama needs to step down and go organize some ghetto community... where he belongs.


21 posted on 11/12/2009 4:22:46 PM PST by Gator113 (Obamba, Reid, Pelosi, the socialist triad.)
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To: McGruff

I hear those who do condone the gay lifestyle experience problems with leakage.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 4:24:14 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: SandRat

Hell, much of the leaking is probably coming directly out of the White House. Funny how Gates only blames the DoD.

I’ve never had a good feeling about Gates. He seems like an underhanded political ‘manager’ type person, rather than a leader.


23 posted on 11/12/2009 4:26:10 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn had federal charges against them dropped because of improper surveillance, so they avoided prison.


24 posted on 11/12/2009 4:29:01 PM PST by LibertyGrrrl ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: SandRat

Oh now I get it. If there is a repub in the white house, it’s perfectly okay to leak information. But now that it’s a dem, leaks are to be condemned. How convenient!


25 posted on 11/12/2009 4:36:44 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: edcoil
It s.
26 posted on 11/12/2009 4:37:40 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Just because Obama is a Bulls fan.


27 posted on 11/12/2009 4:38:34 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Sometimes I like nuts.)
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To: SandRat
I am appalled by the amount of leaking that has been going on

They are leaking because the leakers are appalled by the amount of lying going on by you and your scumbag boss.....

28 posted on 11/12/2009 4:50:55 PM PST by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: Feckless

“They are leaking because the leakers are appalled by the amount of lying going on by you and your scumbag boss.....”

Amen to that. Gates “the diversity whore” is just like his dispicable US Army Chief of staff GEN Casey who thinks the value (sic) of diversity trumps the shed blood of soldiers!

This administration is a disgusting Obamination!!


29 posted on 11/12/2009 4:58:55 PM PST by texican01
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To: SandRat
sounds like some men are willing to risk sacrifice of their career to ensure America knows the tune Zer0 is playing while Afghanistan burns...
30 posted on 11/12/2009 5:04:37 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: SandRat
The question, he said, comes down to "How do we signal resolve, and at the same time, signal to the Afghans and the American people that this is not open-ended?"

Good grief, deliver us from leaders that suffer angst about the messages they send. Here is the answer, Victory. WWII style Victory.

31 posted on 11/12/2009 5:24:42 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: OldDeckHand

I suppose waterboarding is out of the question?


32 posted on 11/12/2009 5:39:36 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: KoRn
Gates has served in 5 different administrations. He had a career at the CIA.

Reagan nominated him to Director but he had to withdraw because of his involvement in Iran-Contra.

He did get confirmed in his second nomination under Bush. Before the Bush nomination, he was NSA Deputy under Scowcroft.

Gates may be Obama's Sec of Defense but he really works for Scowcroft.

33 posted on 11/12/2009 6:01:08 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

lol After reading your quick summary/bio on him, I believe my assumptions of him are correct. He’s been around DC for an awfully long time. Not many people hang around DC that long without becoming more of a political person than anything else. He WAS an officer in the Air Force, but that was a long time ago.

It would be nice to have a SECDEF that is/was a real ‘warrior’ at one time or another, but I’d imagine the fighters rarely kiss enough ass to reach the top of the political ladder in DC.


34 posted on 11/12/2009 6:16:49 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SandRat

Top secret, secret, etc. are worthless.

Asshats take an oath, but thier personal integrity is mush mush.

Very few are intrested in the USA, just social engineering and queer weddings.


35 posted on 11/12/2009 6:19:47 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: SandRat
"Everybody out there ought to just shut up."

This seems to be what all the acolytes of Obama (Pelosi, Reed, Frank -- all of them) have to say about those of us "out here".

36 posted on 11/12/2009 6:22:55 PM PST by chs68
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To: KoRn
Are you pining for Rumsfeld?

The NeoCons resent Gates because he served in the Iraq Study Group and was a symbol of their fall from power.

Some of those NeoCons blame Gates for Bush abandoning Scooter to die on the political battlefield.

However all that played out, the Realists are running foreign policy now.

37 posted on 11/12/2009 6:30:12 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
"Are you pining for Rumsfeld? The NeoCons resent Gates because he served in the Iraq Study Group and was a symbol of their fall from power. Some of those NeoCons blame Gates for Bush abandoning Scooter to die on the political battlefield. However all that played out, the Realists are running foreign policy now."

Rumsfeld seemed great for a few years, but clearly didn't do a good job with Iraq. We had a masterful plan for defeating the Iraqi army and taking Baghdad, but didn't have solid planing in place for what to do afterward.

I don't recall the Iraq study group offering up a winning strategy on Iraq either. Wasn't Petraeus responsible for the strategy of "The Surge"?

I'm not so sure I would refer to 0bama, Hillary, Richard Holbrooke, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and the rest of the liberals at the State Department as "Realists" when it comes to foreign policy. Was that sarcasm?

38 posted on 11/12/2009 6:50:50 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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ZBig is a realist. He is one of Obama's wise old men, along with realists Scowcroft, Kissinger, and James Baker.

Holbrooke is in that group that is called National Security Democrats aka liberal interventionists aka liberal hawks. Others is this group are Ike Skelton, Jane Harmon, and Diane Feinstein. The DUers call them leftwing neocons. Definately different from the liberal surrender monkeys.

As for Petraeus, he is important, but you need to look at his COIN advisor, John Nagl. Nagl was West Point and a Rhodes Scholar, he rewrote the COIN manual, that is being used in Afghan. He became president of the think tank, Center for a New American Security(CNAS) last Jan.

McCrystal is important, but you need to look at his COIN advisor, Andrew Exum, who is now a Senior Fellow at CNAS.

There were about a dozen individuals at CNAS who went to work for Obama last Jan, all in policy positions, including Michele Flournoy, who became Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, the number 3 job at DoD. This is the same job that Douglas Feith had under GW Bush.

While the conversation between Obama and his senior advisors is about 20, 30, or 40 thousand troops, those working out side of scrutiny are talking about a ramp or ramp up in Afghan. How many boots on the ground in 2015 or 2017.

As for Hillary, this is just a temporary job that will give her some foreign policy experience so that she can join the William J Clinton Foundation as a full partner, so that they can be crowned King and Queen of the World by the UN.

As for Obama, because of the part that the republican realists play in his election and the influence they have had on his policies, plus the fact that Obama had brought in many interventionists, the political classifiers call him a Realist Interventionist. But, he doesn't want to get caught in the same trap that caught Bush in Iraq. And Rahm doesn't want him to get caught either.

39 posted on 11/12/2009 8:04:32 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Of course, who knows which direction 0bama will take with regard to Afghanistan now. Given the news reports today, it seems he’s decided to scrap all of the recommendations given by his national security advisers and General McChrystal, and wants to go back to the ‘drawing board’.

It looks like the White House floated some trial balloons on Afghanistan in the media, and they didn’t like the reaction they saw from the Left. If the decisions regarding the war are made based on what the Left approves of, we should end it now. It isn’t looking good.


40 posted on 11/12/2009 9:22:25 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn
"who knows which direction Ibama will take"

There are plenty of clues.

"it seems he's decided to scrap"

Not true, he has rejected because there is no exit strategy. Here is your first clue.

Obama and Powell have both stated that they are talking. Compare what Obama says to the Powell Doctrine, which you can find on the internet. Number 5 of the Powell doctrine says there has to be a plausible exit strategy. Compare the statements Obama made in Alaska yesterday to the Powell doctrine.

There is no drawing board. Once Obama gets what he needs to decide, he will make the decision on Counter terrorism, Counterinsurgency, or a hybrid.

Here is another clue. Pay attention to what Gates, Scowcroft, and Kissinger are saying.

Here is another clue, Obama's drop dead date of decision is the same date that the Fort Drum contingent is set to deploy. That is the earliest deployment. The latest deployments are set in early 2011.

41 posted on 11/13/2009 1:13:22 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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