Posted on 11/12/2009 7:53:07 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
My focus has been on why it happened, how to prevent it, and to protect our soldiers.
I know the point you are making. There was a dereliction of duty in regards to screening out Haman and making sure our soldiers were safe from him acting on his Jihad. Hasan was never an American soldier, he was a lying jihadist waiting for his opportunity as a SOA (soldier of allah) and that has left residual affects for some serving in our military and others who have served in the past. It must not be repeated!
That needs to be a bumper sticker.
Not to mention that if his weapon was equipped with a Gen II, PVS-4 night sight, which is standard issue, the max range that he can see is 400 yards in starlight and 600 yards in moonlight.
Well, would be happy to be on the firing squad or give the injection or throw the switch. PTSD be damned...
You caught that too. With an M-16 it's an impossibility.
One mile is 1760 yards.So to hit anything at a mile, he'd have to be aiming at the sky.
The bullet drop at 500 yards -45" to -47"
(Winchester ballistics for FMJ)
I’ve always thought the phrase “burned out” meant, just sick of doing it, heart is not in it anymore. It sounds like your definition probably means more than that. Primary Caregivers are under a tremendous amount of stress and pressure...
"Today, this army wife is mad as hell.
This afternoon I saw an interview on FOX with the Army Chief of Staff, General Casey.
During the Q&A period, every question and answer centered around Combat Stress and suicides among our military.
Not ONE person addressed the FACT that this was an individual practicing his view of Islamic Jihad.
--snip--
Hassan was a Muslim Fundamentalist Extremist. He did it to strike fear and grief in the hearts of Americans. He did it to hurt our military and to further the cause of Islam.
He didn’t do it because he had PTSD, compassion fatigue or combat stress. He is not your average everyday PVT Joe Snuffy.
He is a TERRORIST. He is a terrorist sympathizer. (As indicated by his internet postings.) He is a Muslim Extremist.
And you damn well know it.
Today I am ashamed of our media. I am ashamed of our POTUS. I am ashamed of our leadership.
Those of you who lack the ability to accept and report the truth of this situation are nothing more than cowards who are terrified of giving offense. You do a disservice to the brave men and women who have been killed and injured in your defense.
Stop insulting the solders by implying that they’re all capable of this due to the stress of war. Stop insulting our military by implying that they don’t take care of our troops.
Grow a pair and call it what it is - TERRORISM.
Straight to the point..and exactly what I meant. I would like to add that we should have a say so in all this... I mean after all, the military leaders who spew the PC crap, and allowed hasan to conintue on...have salaries that are paid with OUR TAX DOLLARS. We SHOULD have a say so, but do we? It's BS BS BS. (can we ever scream it loud enough)
At the same time, the "coward" thread linked above meant so much to read as well. Boy did she let'em have it.
Understood.
See #48 and #49....for clarification and to avoid repetition.
Your description of the term is accurate, but incomplete. A lot of angst goes into a nurse's decision to change practice venue. Nursing specialty areas with the highest burn out rates are those where there is infrequent opportunity to see a patient recover from illness. In the ICU, when a patient survives the critical care episode, they are promptly shipped out of the unit. Oncology units and nursing homes are permeated with poor prognoses.
As noted before, I think compassion fatigue is a reasonable description for health care provider burn out. Using compassion fatigue synonymously with secondary PTSD is crap. Using burn out, compassion fatigue or secondary PTSD as a reasonable defense for murder is incomprehensible.
"Using burn out, compassion fatigue or secondary PTSD as a reasonable defense for murder is incomprehensible"
Right, I remember the discussions about that on the threads where media and military were trying to say that hasan was acting out because of PTSD. This thread is about how hasan's terrorist action has affected "some" of the soldiers who do have ptsd. I'm not even going to argue about that because I think hasan IS a terrorist.
Your question is totally valid. So many of these reporters of recent times simply are clueless about things they supposedly must cover. Their getting dumber and dumber.
“SOLDIERS DO NOT DO THIS TO EACH OTHER”
What I’ve been saying..hasan is not a soldier.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2384984/posts
Hasan “Not One of Our Own,” Soldier Says (’Soldiers Do Not Do This to Each Other’)
CBS News ^ | Nov. 11, 2009
1st Responder to Scene of Deadly Shooting Says “Soldiers Do Not Do This to Each Other”; Fort Hood Seeks Return to Normalcy
Soldiers at Fort Hood continued to display a mix of anger and disbelief at Maj. Nidal Hasan’s alleged role in the deadly shooting rampage that left 13 people dead and dozens more wounded.
“I can’t really say this was done by one of our own. Soldiers do not do this to each other,” said 1st Sgt. James McLeod, a first responder to the scene whose unit suffered three fatalities.
But for the first time in almost a week at Fort Hood, there was a homecoming of troops from war - a bittersweet time for the post still grieving last week’s shooting. Nearly 300 members of the 1st Cavalry Division returned home Tuesday night after a year in Iraq - the first such reunion since last Thursday’s deadly rampage, reports CBS News correspondent Don Teague.
“It’s kind of bittersweet to me,” Jennifer Goetz, the wife of returning soldier Specialist Sean Goetz told Teague. “So much loss and then just so much happiness right now and love and joy.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2383751/posts
“A few weeks ago a friend of mine in the National Guard contacted me, frustrated by the lack of physical security of the military in the continental US. More specifically, he complained that every time he transports millions of dollars in automatic weapons and other supplies he is prohibited from carrying even a sidearm to protect the equipment.”
It is ESPECIALLY incomprehensible in Haman's case. He was a monster who over and over demonstrated the jihadist 'kill the infidel' ideology. Most likely he either phoned it in while treating those unfortunate enough to be assigned to him for care, or he just didn't give a rat's @ss about those suffering under his counsel. More likely he reveled in their psychological trauma and pain which is something we can not comprehend but anything is possible with this monster.
I would like to know how thorough he was in treating his patients. I'm sure he took it up to the line without being obvious about his intent. Sleepers are all about patience and waiting for their opportunity to strike.
Nuf said.
For all we know, this may have been a long term plot... Put this creep into the Army. Let him raise through the ranks and prepare a jihadist attack that would take out a lot of soldiers.
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