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Fort Hood has rekindled veterans' wartime pain
www.kansascity.com ^ | Wed, Nov. 11, 2009 | LEE HILL KAVANAUGH

Posted on 11/12/2009 7:53:07 PM PST by Freedom2specul8

He says he killed a human being on his 27th birthday.

His words are louder than the clatter of customers on this Veterans Day at Panera Bread in Oak Park Mall.

But the 29-year-old Army veteran from Lenexa, with baby-face cheeks and crinkly eyes, tells it so matter-of-factly, so dead on bluntly, it sounds normal.

He was pulling night-time guard duty in Iraq. A bullet whizzed past his head. Through the scope on his M-16, he found the shooter on top of a building nearly a mile away. Watched as the shooter popped his head above the railing and swung up his weapon for another try. …

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“That’s one of the memories I brought back,” Hank Eaton says. “But I never told my wife much about it. I didn’t want her to get the secondary PTSD from me. This stuff is hard to hear. It can make you crazy.”

He’s read about post traumatic stress disorder. Tried to prepare for it before he deployed. Sought help for his symptoms after he left the Army. But since the shootings at Fort Hood last week, the worst of his own war experiences are streaming back in crystal-clear images, saddling him with insomnia and depression. Anger. Forgetfulness.

Eaton is not alone. The Fort Hood shootings have plunged untold numbers of other veterans into roiling, rekindling emotions that many thought they had learned how to shut away.

“We’ve had many, many, many calls,” says Thomas Demark, a staff psychiatrist who treats Eaton and others at the VA Medical Center in Kansas City. “These are calls from patients getting treatment. We’ve have several crisis situations.

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Demark worries, too, about veterans losing their trust in the people trying to help them.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: Missouri; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bho44; forthood; fthood; hasan; islam; muslim; nidalmalikhasan; pc; terror; terrorism; terrorist; texas; wot
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I've been saying from day one, that hasan's patients (assuming he had some...has that been confirmed?) need to be helped by a real counselor/psychologist.... Note the quote in the article:

"Demark worries, too, about veterans losing their trust in the people trying to help them."

1 posted on 11/12/2009 7:53:09 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; 444Flyer; MestaMachine

ping...


2 posted on 11/12/2009 7:54:41 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Nachum; SunkenCiv

ping..


3 posted on 11/12/2009 7:59:00 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Hasan didn’t just attack Ft.Hood. It was a crime against our entire military and they are feeling it. That is one of the reasons this needs to be a Capital Punishment case. Closure is very important for everyone affected.


4 posted on 11/12/2009 8:04:11 PM PST by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: 444Flyer

AMEN!! And preventative measures! Communicate, and get people like HASAN out.

Get the PC out of the military, period. It’s BS!


5 posted on 11/12/2009 8:06:34 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

It would be the same as if during WW2 a Japanese or Nazi had gone on a rampage in one of our bases.

Idiotic to let them anywhere near the military. But we all gotta die by PC.


6 posted on 11/12/2009 8:11:29 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

A kill from a mile away with an M16?


7 posted on 11/12/2009 8:13:22 PM PST by idkfa
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
“..Guys don’t like to tell anyone what’s going on, let alone guys in the military. … (The shootings) might make the guys question the stability of their own psychiatrists,” he says.”

I've heard PTSD is a living hell. One of the best outlets of healing is counseling.

I would certainly ask for a transfer if they aren't comfortable with their current Doc. They also need to keep in mind that this was a terrorist attack and Haman was a Jihadist, not your normal Armed Services doctor.

Which is another reason I believe this was all planned out to a T. The extra psychological warfare delivered through this attack knowing this animal treated our guys who were suffering with PTSD. Some of the weakest and most vulnerable in need of treatment,support and healing.

It makes me angry beyond words.

8 posted on 11/12/2009 8:15:09 PM PST by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
losing their trust THAT says it all. It's bigger than one shrink, or the vets he counseled. It's about how the military (and the FBI and anyone else involved in the case) deals with this and the issues it entails. This guy Hasan is just a symptom of a bigger problem. Does the govt take care of our military or not? Not just with gestures, but with deeds.
9 posted on 11/12/2009 8:15:18 PM PST by PghBaldy (James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed Martin Luther King Jr.)
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To: idkfa

Maybe he blew off a 30 round magazine and something happened a mile away. He did not aim, pulled the trigger and hit a man at 1 mile with am M16. I would suspect some liberal measurement in his mind. It is no matter, 1 mile or 100 feet, it affects him the same.


10 posted on 11/12/2009 8:19:29 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

If they were white dudes (soldiers) publicly expressing an attitude like hasan was beforehand, they’d have been dealt with immediately.


11 posted on 11/12/2009 8:23:44 PM PST by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: idkfa

Maybe he blew off a 30 round magazine and something happened a mile away. He did not aim, pulled the trigger and hit a man at 1 mile with am M16. I would suspect some liberal measurement in his mind. It is no matter, 1 mile or 100 feet, it affects him the same.


12 posted on 11/12/2009 8:26:34 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: PghBaldy

Indeed! It is more than just him and his patients... It’s the bigger picture and how can we trust what the govt tells us? Do any of us trust them anymore? I want to know what the VFW says and demands as a result of this. Do they have any say as to how this is handled?


13 posted on 11/12/2009 8:29:03 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: idkfa

“a mile away with an M16?”

I noticed that, too. If this is a BS story I’d expect that the following.....

“I didn’t want her to get the secondary PTSD from me”

is seen as a way to incrementally further float the idea that Major Hasan is a PTSD victim instead of the ghoul Muslim Jihaddi Terrorist that he is in fact....


14 posted on 11/12/2009 8:30:09 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Compassion fatigue is something I can understand and grasp as occurring in both the health care environment and in the home setting. This story makes the second time I've heard of "secondary PTSD" since Hasan committed mass murder at Ft. Hood. Still trying to figure out secondary PTSD. It almost seems like folks are floating trial balloon psych terms to see what sticks.

Psychiatric Times published an article back in 2003 describing the term related to mental health providers, while noting empirical evidence for this condition is weak. Most theories are descriptive (qualitative).:

Secondary trauma is defined as indirect exposure to trauma
through a firsthand account or narrative of a traumatic event.
If this is the case, then the entire U.S. population and most of the world suffer from secondary PTSD following 9-11. A study of Manhattan residents in weeks 5-6 following 9-11 revealed 20% of residents living close to the World Trade Center met criteria for probable PTSD. Thus, the majority of individuals directly exposed to the terrorist attacks in New York City did not meet criteria for PTSD.
15 posted on 11/12/2009 8:32:09 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Thanks....

Lenexa ...lived there for quite awhile.

16 posted on 11/12/2009 8:36:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: 444Flyer; Tolsti2
You hit the nail on the head too...psychological warfare and there is no way in hell we would have allowed the enemy on the inside during wwII.

But then you got people on the radio like Montel Williams, who has the nerve to say that the public might over react! Quote from thread: "Why is the left obsessed with the idea that the public might overreact to the terror incident at Fort Hood? Here, Air America libtalker Montel Williams suggests the reaction could rival the internment camps during World War II!"

This is getting out of hand, and because we don't have a great prez, a great leader, people like montel williams are talking out their behind..and he was in the Marines. He should know exactly what to say, think and feel about this.

17 posted on 11/12/2009 8:37:18 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Really? If I want to go to the mall, it’s oak park. I’m in western missouri..


18 posted on 11/12/2009 8:38:36 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Marine_Uncle; BenLurkin

fyi


19 posted on 11/12/2009 8:38:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: NautiNurse

“Still trying to figure out secondary PTSD.”

I’ve read up quite a bit on PTSD and though I’m no expert, I have never heard of ‘secondary PTSD’. PTSD isn’t something you can catch from someone else like a cold.


20 posted on 11/12/2009 8:40:58 PM PST by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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