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The most awesome thing I have ever seen on the net. The Vatican virtual tours.
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Posted on 11/13/2009 6:24:49 PM PST by FoxPro

Come visit Basilica of St. John Lateran in Rome!

I am warning you, if you go to this link you may be stuck on this website for hours, as I was yesterday:

http://www.vatican.va/various/basiliche/san_giovanni/vr_tour/Media/VR/Lateran_Apse/index.html

A map of the project is here:

http://www.vatican.va/various/basiliche/san_giovanni/vr_tour/index-it.html

An article about the project is here:

http://cnsblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/inside-scoop-on-vaticans-groundbreaking-virtual-tour/#comment-10076

And the real reason I am posting this is my question.

When will the other Vatican related buildings pictorial projects be finished? I cant figure this out.

How will we know?

Where will they be posted?

Is there a good site out there that we can use to find out the artists and history of the objects we are looking at? It is almost overwhelming.

This was posted here at freerepublic.com yesterday, but it didn't get any legs. I want to give it a second try, since it is so amazing. It is arguably, in some ways better than actually being there, as you can zoom into different parts of the building that would be impossible to do while standing on the floor if you were actually there.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; italy; rome; vacation; vatican; virtualrome
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1 posted on 11/13/2009 6:24:50 PM PST by FoxPro
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To: FoxPro

http://www.vatican.va/various/basiliche/san_giovanni/vr_tour/index-it.html


2 posted on 11/13/2009 6:31:38 PM PST by BARLF
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To: FoxPro

marking for later. Thanks for the post


3 posted on 11/13/2009 6:33:39 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: FoxPro

Wow! Thanks for posting. I missed yesterday’s post. I checked out the apse. It was just like being there! Can’t wait to show Mr S!


4 posted on 11/13/2009 6:33:41 PM PST by sneakers
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To: FoxPro

thanks


5 posted on 11/13/2009 6:34:46 PM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: FoxPro

Thanks, I took a couple of minutes look at it, and will bookmark this to come back and explore later.


6 posted on 11/13/2009 6:35:31 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: BARLF

Thank you!

God bless the Pope.


7 posted on 11/13/2009 6:35:54 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: sneakers

I cant even comprehend the history I am looking at here.

You could devise a whole set of art history courses around this, and I wish somebody would....


8 posted on 11/13/2009 6:37:02 PM PST by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: FoxPro

Place marker for later....


9 posted on 11/13/2009 6:41:11 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: FoxPro

Compare this to the dirty sugar cube the muzzies parade around.


10 posted on 11/13/2009 6:41:17 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: FoxPro

Oh, I see what you mean, you can zoom in and turn the picture by grabbing it. I didn’t even know that when I posted my last comment. Good stuff here.


11 posted on 11/13/2009 6:41:53 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: FoxPro
Wow, thank you for posting!

Save for later

12 posted on 11/13/2009 6:42:08 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: GOP_Lady

You’re welcome, Lady.


13 posted on 11/13/2009 6:46:09 PM PST by BARLF
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To: FoxPro

english site-

http://www.vatican.va/various/basiliche/san_giovanni/vr_tour/index-en.html


14 posted on 11/13/2009 6:47:12 PM PST by visualops (Freepin' Pre!)
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To: FoxPro

THANK YOU!


15 posted on 11/13/2009 6:48:42 PM PST by Mother Mary
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To: FoxPro

OK, now I know where to go next week. Sunday we are flying to Rome. We haven’t set up any tours figuring went we get there. This is now at the top of my list. Wow!


16 posted on 11/13/2009 6:48:50 PM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: FoxPro

If all that art was put on the market, how many of the worlds hungry would it feed? Just ask’n?


17 posted on 11/13/2009 6:49:21 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: FoxPro

I wish the fish-eye lens effect were not so pronounced, but still this is remarkable. Thanks for posting.


18 posted on 11/13/2009 6:50:14 PM PST by TChad
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To: BlueStateBlues

Yes!

The zoom button is so awesome.

And so I want to know, for example:

1) Who painted the painting above the organ pipes?
2) When was it painted?
3) Who is in the painting?
4) Why was it painted?

I could ask this question about a thousand times, about everything here.

There are also several popes buried in this building, some above the doors.

I want somebody to explain this all to me, right now!

Just wait until they do Sistine Chapel. I will need sedatives and a few days off of work for that.....


19 posted on 11/13/2009 6:51:30 PM PST by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: doc1019
If all that art was put on the market, how many of the worlds hungry would it feed?

Not as many as the Catholic Church feeds without selling it.

20 posted on 11/13/2009 6:52:13 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: FoxPro

My wife and I made the trip in 1998 and it was the best trip I have ever taken. We were fortunate enough to have a travel guide who had a Masters in Italian Art. In Rome, Florence and Venice we were mesmorized by his descriptions. This website brings back memories but nothing can compare with standing directly in front of the Pieta. I stood there for the better part of 45 minutes. Not to mention the Sistine Chapel. Thanks for the memories.


21 posted on 11/13/2009 6:52:57 PM PST by kempster
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To: FoxPro

Remarkable. I have been there, but that was some time ago, and it’s wonderful to see it again this way.


22 posted on 11/13/2009 6:53:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
http://saintpetersbasilica.org/Necropolis/ScaviTour.htm

You may want to book this right away. They only take a few people a day.

23 posted on 11/13/2009 6:54:16 PM PST by votemout
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To: FoxPro

You can look up and down too, and zoom in on the tiniest details. I took a peek into one of the gift shops there. And looking up, zooming in, all the artwork is on your screen.


24 posted on 11/13/2009 6:54:27 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: FoxPro

Ok, yeah, that is pretty cool.


25 posted on 11/13/2009 6:58:10 PM PST by Hexenhammer
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To: BlueStateBlues
all the artwork is on your screen.

But I need to know WHAT I am looking at.

26 posted on 11/13/2009 6:58:42 PM PST by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: Petronski

But how many more could they feed by selling this art? Not trying to be negative, just asking a question. What does the Church gain by keeping this art. Mother Teresa could have used the moneys gained by the sale of these items much more then the Vatican can benefit keeping them.


27 posted on 11/13/2009 6:59:15 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: FoxPro

Absolutely OUT OF SIGHT ... Thanks for posting ... I’m feeling a little woozy though ... :)


28 posted on 11/13/2009 6:59:45 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: FoxPro

Ping


29 posted on 11/13/2009 7:00:10 PM PST by AdamBomb
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To: doc1019
What does the Church gain by keeping this art.

Does the Church own it?

30 posted on 11/13/2009 7:01:48 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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But how many more could they feed by selling this art?

God deserves to be worshiped in this way. By people that were created in his image, and thus can create great beauty that you are witnessing.

31 posted on 11/13/2009 7:03:17 PM PST by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: FoxPro

thanks for the link.


32 posted on 11/13/2009 7:06:19 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: FoxPro

Marking for later.

Thanks for posting!


33 posted on 11/13/2009 7:07:01 PM PST by khnyny
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To: Petronski

Seems to be in their possession.


34 posted on 11/13/2009 7:07:03 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: FoxPro

Doesn’t seem to answer my question.


35 posted on 11/13/2009 7:10:02 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: doc1019

Obviously, you are being negative. On purpose. Don’t you like Catholics or is it just the Christian God you have a problem with?

Hey, just ask’n:)


36 posted on 11/13/2009 7:11:56 PM PST by khnyny
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Me too.


37 posted on 11/13/2009 7:13:07 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: FoxPro

bfl


38 posted on 11/13/2009 7:18:42 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: FoxPro

Thank you for posting this link. I can see what you mean about losing time looking at all the beautiful buildings.


39 posted on 11/13/2009 7:18:46 PM PST by NoExpectations
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You dance right, you dance left … still no answer to my question.


40 posted on 11/13/2009 7:19:07 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: doc1019
Doesn’t seem to answer my question.

And if they sold the art, to feed the hungry:

1) Who would they sell it to?
2) And would you then be asking those people to sell it also?

Right now, I am poor and hungry, and probably homeless tomorrow night. I would not take one dime from the sale of any of this, as I one day would like to go over there and see all of this with my own eyes.

It is good to worship God with the creativity that he has given us because we are created in his image.

If they auctioned it all off, it would just give you other people to be angry with for possessing great beauty.

41 posted on 11/13/2009 7:22:18 PM PST by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: doc1019
But how many more could they feed by selling this art? Not trying to be negative, just asking a question. What does the Church gain by keeping this art.

Why confine the idea to the Vatican? What about the Metropolitan Museum of Art? Why not sell off that? Or the Smithsonian. Or property the Mormon church owns. Or the Holocaust Museum in D.C. Or sell the Wailing Wall to Muslims. They got lots of money and would no doubt snap it up. Or why not sell off the works in the Prado, Louvre, Tate and Rijksmuseum? Why not sell off every work of Western civilization to the Taliban so they can destroy it and future generations won't know the glories of our civilization?

Why is the question always, always, always, always asked of the Vatican and almost never of anyone else?

42 posted on 11/13/2009 7:25:36 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: FoxPro

I just came across one of the Pope graves. They just scatter them around. Do you know if this project is being extended to the Vatican?


43 posted on 11/13/2009 7:26:07 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: FoxPro

Thank you so much, a much needed uplifting moment during such trying times..God Bless


44 posted on 11/13/2009 7:26:27 PM PST by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: musicman

bookmark


45 posted on 11/13/2009 7:27:39 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: doc1019
Possession is not the end of the matter. From the 1929 Treaty of Lateran:
Article 18

The artistic and scientific treasures existing within the Vatican City and the Lateran Palace shall remain open to scholars and visitors, although the Holy See shall be free to regulate the admission of the public thereto.
Not only does the art provide a powerful evangelical function, as well as generate tourism income to fund the Church's ongoing worldwide charitable and evangelical missions, but it would seem to violate the Treaty of Lateran to simply sell the portable art and ship it away. As for murals and other architectural features, well, how does one sell a ceiling?
46 posted on 11/13/2009 7:29:11 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Do you know if this project is being extended to the Vatican?

Yes it is, read the original posting. This is why I posted this, these questions. I cant wait to spend a few nights with the Sistine Chapel.

I just cant wait......

47 posted on 11/13/2009 7:31:43 PM PST by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: doc1019

It all belongs to the Church and was created for the honor and glory of God. The Church is preserving and protecting it, while at the same time offering it for the world to see.

Your question is akin to the query made to the woman who poured precious oil on the feet of Jesus.

I happen to own a very few precious “family jewels.” I don’t intend to sell them and give the money to the poor. I will pass them on down to my descendents as their heritage. Meanwhile, my descendents and I will give to the poor from our substance ( the work of our hands)—which was the only authentic kind of charity that Jesus asked from each of us as individuals.


48 posted on 11/13/2009 7:33:49 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: FoxPro

Thanks, no I didn’t read it, just went right to the link to view the project.


49 posted on 11/13/2009 7:34:16 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: FoxPro
To answer:

1) Who would they sell it to … museums and collectors

2) After it is sold and the money given to the poor, I wouldn’t care what the buyers did with the art. Feeding the poor should come before the elate appreciation of art. Hard to eat art.

Right now, I am poor and hungry, and probably homeless tomorrow night. I would not take one dime from the sale of any of this, as I one day would like to go over there and see all of this with my own eyes.

Ans: If you are posting on here, you can’t be to poor or hungry. After all you have hi-speed internet connection or your responses wouln’t be so quick. And just my point … all that art is concentrated in one place, a place most of will never visit.

If you are using an Internet café … use the money for food, not to chat with the likes of me.

It is good to worship God with the creativity that he has given us because we are created in his image.

50 posted on 11/13/2009 7:47:05 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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