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How Palin Could Win the 2012 GOP Nomination
Politics Daily ^ | 11/16/09 | Walter Shapiro

Posted on 11/16/2009 6:51:36 PM PST by neverdem

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To: gorilla_warrior
The GOP is the biggest impediment to conservative rule.

Conservatives don't have the numbers. 2006 and 2008 exit polls said that conservatives were about one third of the electorate. IIRC, a recent Gallup Poll said they numbered about forty percent. They all said self identied liberals are about one fifth of the electorate. Considering that about thirty six percent of one poll said that GWB was either responsible for Sep 11, 2001, or knew about it and let it happen, i.e. the truthers, my guess is that there are a lot of liberals who want to hide that fact.

If DC is the problem, move the Capitol to another city.

Location is not the problem. Did you read the link? It doesn't matter where the Capitol is located. It's the time that incumbents stay there.

21 posted on 11/16/2009 8:26:52 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Skeptics scoff at the hoopla and argue that the Republican establishment would never nominate someone who, according to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, 71 percent of voters describe as "not qualified to be president."

LOL...they're citing a CNN poll?! Even if it were true that she was unqualified it'd still be better than perpetual amateur hour we have in the White House now.

22 posted on 11/16/2009 8:30:07 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: kingu
Least those choices put the power in the voter’s hands rather than in the hands of politicians.

Initiatives, referenda and recall votes are double edge swords. We're a representative democracy, not a mobacracy.

23 posted on 11/16/2009 8:33:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: kingu
Term limits have been done in California, and all they’ve turned out to be is a conveyor belt to another office, followed by a nice comfy seat in a lobbying firm. It’s useless, you get the same faces, only shifted. And it takes away the singular power the voters have: voting the slime out when they backstab you.

Nonsense. Term limits in Cal. are a great success , making it impossible for career politicians like Willie Brown to build corrupt empires. In no way do Term Limits affect the ability to "vote the slime out". That possibility is prevented by corrupt gerrymandering to protect incumbents, and racial gerrymandering to guarantee quotas of minority legislators. Only one legislative seat was even at play last election. Regardless of what reforms are enacted, legislatures will find a way around them. Our political system is illegitimate.

24 posted on 11/16/2009 8:34:00 PM PST by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: neverdem

If Sarah DOESN’T get the nomination, the party WILL
get an earful from me. I’ve already told them that
they will get no funding, no volunteer hours until
they start supporting HER.

I am only one, but I am many.


25 posted on 11/16/2009 8:37:01 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: All

This “winner take all” strategy is becoming more and more echoed (probably by Mittens, Huckster and/or GOP elite supporters).

No doubt they will try to change the rules (even allowing more open primaries) to derail a potential Palin campaign.


26 posted on 11/16/2009 9:33:59 PM PST by ak267
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To: neverdem

>>>the 21st century version of Barry Goldwater who will lead the Republican Party into the abyss<<<

Proof positive that the writer knows nothing about politics.

In fact, when I was a student at American University, I had the pleasure of seeing Sen. Goldwater on several occasions. After his defeat in 1964, he never gave up his struggle to teach people about conservatism. His speeches at AU are the seeds from which my own conservatism arose, and I’m not the only one. He was a sincere and powerful proponent of conservatism - and his views eventually found a home with a winner in the form of Ronald Reagan.

If Sarah Palin wants to take on the mantle of a modern Goldwater, God bless her. Her political losses will be more than made up by her energizing people along the way.

And Mr. Shapiro - please, when writing about politics, at least have a clue.


27 posted on 11/16/2009 9:35:11 PM PST by redpoll
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To: neverdem

Ah, yes, Shapiro...one if the former WP “reporters.” His offering reminds me of the NY Times critic, Pauline Kael, who famously said that Nizon couldn’t have won, because she didn’t know anybody who voted for him.


28 posted on 11/16/2009 9:46:47 PM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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The future is now

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29 posted on 11/16/2009 11:19:56 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: tet68
I am only one, but I am many.

Yes We Are!

30 posted on 11/17/2009 2:49:32 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: redpoll
If Sarah wants to take on the mantle of a modern Goldwater, God bless her. Her political losses will be more than made up by her energizing people along the way.

I fully hear you on that one. And as to how she can win the nomination? That's right, she has to want, then to decide, even to run -- although she'd be just as happy, I think, to be Mom, Grandma, Author, and (if she wanted to, why not) team leader on second shift at a fastfood joint.
31 posted on 11/17/2009 2:59:19 AM PST by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: neverdem
..stay away from GOP establishment types

Don't surround yourself with political "handlers"

Clarify your position on key policies like immigration

Consult with people like Duncan Hunter and Dick Cheney on foreign policy

..and yes, just be yourself--you will be fine...

32 posted on 11/17/2009 6:30:28 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: neverdem

Conservatives don’t have the numbers.

* * * * * * * *

It’s depressing and true. Conservatives say a Reaganesque candidate could win if we only had one. But the older voters of Reagan’s day, the most solid reliable votes, were people who came of age in the 40’s and 50’s. Today’s 60 year olds are the ex hippies and Baby Boomers, and they vote like it. I’m dismayed and at my wits’ end.


33 posted on 11/17/2009 7:09:21 AM PST by LussaO
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 11/17/2009 9:18:33 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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