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Obama: Too much debt could fuel double-dip recession
reuters ^ | Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:20am EST | Caren Bohan

Posted on 11/18/2009 5:04:11 AM PST by Former Military Chick

BEIJING (Reuters) - President Barack Obama gave his sternest warning yet about the need to contain rising U.S. deficits, saying on Wednesday that if government debt were to pile up too much, it could lead to a double-dip recession.

With the U.S. unemployment rate at 10.2 percent, Obama told Fox News his administration faces a delicate balance of trying to boost the economy and spur job creation while putting the economy on a path toward long-term deficit reduction.

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To: Former Military Chick
President Barack Obama gave his sternest warning yet about the need to contain rising U.S. deficits, saying on Wednesday that if government debt were to pile up too much, it could lead to a double-dip recession

Most 'sane' leaders would STOP pushing the budget busting Obamacare and Cap & Tax.
121 posted on 11/18/2009 7:38:14 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Actually, the motel owner is now OUT $100, because he just lost the $100 the hooker gave him. Everyone else is paid off, but he got SHAFTED!


122 posted on 11/18/2009 7:39:02 AM PST by RogerWilko
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To: Wyatt's Torch

“Timing is absolutely critical and it will be difficult.”

Or impossible.

Right now all that liquidity is being used by the banks for carry trading - which is lining the pockets on Wall Street but doing little for the average person. It is, however, weakening the dollar, otherwise known as “inflation”.

Check this interesting thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2384742/posts


123 posted on 11/18/2009 7:47:29 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Former Military Chick
"Porkulus"
124 posted on 11/18/2009 7:55:44 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (America, 1776 - 2009. R.I.P.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
From my favorite pure supply-side economist Don Luskin:

Officials at the Treasury also are keeping an appropriately cool head about the dollar, even though this coolness can be mistaken for insouciance. They note that the recent dollar decline has taken place in a very special context — that of a historic global credit crisis. This year’s 15 percent dollar drop began on March 9, the very day the stock market found its bottom. Tick for tick, the dollar’s decline has tracked the stock market’s monster rally. In this sense, the weakening dollar is a sign of economic recovery and strength.

Bear in mind that prior to the weakening trend the dollar had soared 24 percent since mid-2008, which is right when the credit crisis began to unfold. That’s because investors and banks worldwide desperately needed dollar liquidity, and not because the U.S. was an especially safe haven during the financial storm. (Obviously, it wasn’t.) U.S. dollars — the standard currency of world trade — were needed to settle dollar-denominated investment and credit flows in markets that to a large extent had simply shut down.

BTW, as a matter of full disclosure, I am partially hedged against inflation through owning gold and a TIPS fund...in case Bernanke can't thread the needle...;-)

125 posted on 11/18/2009 7:56:57 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Wait...wait...hold on a sec here.

Did the President who has spent more in 9 months than every other President in history just say we need to control spending?

And did the article / reporter seriously say “his sternest warning yet”?

Did he do it with a straight face? I mean...the full and complete truth would be said something like:

“My administration has authorized more spending than the entire history of every administration prior combined. Now I need to tell you that we must control our spending”

How does this not get reported as “Delusional President - Obama has break from reality.”


126 posted on 11/18/2009 8:04:57 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Environmental Communists: Green on the outside. Red on the inside.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

“That’s because investors and banks worldwide desperately needed dollar liquidity, and not because the U.S. was an especially safe haven during the financial storm. (Obviously, it wasn’t.) U.S. dollars — the standard currency of world trade — were needed to settle dollar-denominated investment and credit flows in markets that to a large extent had simply shut down.”

So what’s your prediction of the dollar’s strength as governments around the world shift into other currencies from better managed economies, selling their dollars in the process? There are also several efforts underway to replace the dollar as the international standard of exchange. The “boy genius” Geithner, even said that he was “open to the idea”. That outburst of honesty was quickly stifled, but I think it showed their true intentions.

Doesn’t look at all good to me.


127 posted on 11/18/2009 8:05:39 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

It’s one thing to talk about diversifying away from the dollar as the standard currency for international trade, it’s another thing to actually do it.

Also, the Fed taking back those dollars is one way to drain excess liquidity.


128 posted on 11/18/2009 8:10:52 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: neodad

His mindset is that Obamacare will help reduce the deficit....
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Right. His is so much double speak, isn’t it? Read: Lies, obfuscations. Notice how he uttered such during his much touted interview on Fox News, which just last month or two his admin declared wasn’t a news gathering outfit at all.

Can we trust this man, or this admin.

A resounding NO!!!


129 posted on 11/18/2009 8:16:36 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

His strategy going forward will be to cut 25% of the deficit he created, then saying “See, I cut the deficit!”.
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Amazing problem for us is, a pretty good portion of the American population will believe that.


130 posted on 11/18/2009 8:18:06 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Former Military Chick
Obama: Too much debt could fuel double-dip recession

...and therefore we have no choice but to raise taxes.

Go for it Ubama, you p.o.s.

131 posted on 11/18/2009 8:19:35 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: kittymyrib

That’s the line BO tried selling to the men wearing green eye-shades at China’s central bank. They hold all the cards in this high-stakes game of global economic poker. They probably laughed themselves silly when this greenhorn left the room and marveled that the USA elected such a pathetic president.
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Imagine that scene.


132 posted on 11/18/2009 8:19:47 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Obadiah

Obama’s the guy who spend all the money! And he wants to blow through a few trillion more!
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Obama is the biggest con artist in the history of the world. He makes Madoff look trivial.


133 posted on 11/18/2009 8:21:31 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

“It’s one thing to talk about diversifying away from the dollar as the standard currency for international trade, it’s another thing to actually do it.”

It’s being done incrementally, for instance the Iranian oil bourse.

“Also, the Fed taking back those dollars is one way to drain excess liquidity.”

How will the Fed take back dollars in foreign hands, exactly?

At any rate, I have a whole new appreciation for the old Chinese curse: “May you live in interesting times.”


134 posted on 11/18/2009 8:22:42 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: dennisw
Stuart Varney on Fox News this morning says they plan to use what’s left of the TARP money (including repaid from TARP recipients) to pay for this “jobs” bill. I would like to say say I’m shocked but....
135 posted on 11/18/2009 8:23:33 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Great story!


136 posted on 11/18/2009 8:24:20 AM PST by MissNomer
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To: PreciousLiberty

“...and therefore we have no choice but to raise taxes.”

If they do, total revenue will fall. Opposite effect of lowering taxes, which eventually results in increased revenue.

Plus, unemployment would go even higher...


137 posted on 11/18/2009 8:26:53 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: SeattleBruce

Sorry, post #137 was a reply to you. I guess I clicked on the wrong “Post Reply” link.


138 posted on 11/18/2009 8:29:28 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

The Fed “drains” liquidity by selling securities in return for dollars. We have a LOT of securities to sell. If the Fed does not push those dollars back into the monetary system, it reduces the money supply. It’s the opposite of Quantitative Easing or “monetizing the debt”.


139 posted on 11/18/2009 8:33:38 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
If they do, total revenue will fall. Opposite effect of lowering taxes, which eventually results in increased revenue.

Plus, unemployment would go even higher...

Yep. Tax increases would snuff out any hope of recovery.

140 posted on 11/18/2009 8:35:12 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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