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Going Muslim
Forbes ^ | November 9, 2009 | Tunku Varadarajan

Posted on 11/19/2009 3:15:08 AM PST by reaganaut1

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As the enormity of the actions of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan sinks in, we must ask whether we are confronting a new phenomenon of violent rage, one we might dub--disconcertingly--"Going Muslim." This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Muslim-American [...] discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his religion in an act of messianic violence against his fellow Americans.

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The difference between "going postal," in the conventional sense, and "going Muslim," in the sense that I suggest, is that there would not necessarily be a psychological "snapping" point in the case of the imminently violent Muslim; instead, there could be a calculated discarding of camouflage--the camouflage of integration--in an act of revelatory catharsis.

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We are a civilized society. One of our cardinal rules of coexistence is that we (try always to) judge people only by their actions and not by their identity, whether racial, religious or sexual. This is our great strength as a society, and also, in the present circumstances, our great weakness: How to address the threat posed by the fact that, of the hundreds of thousands of Muslims in our midst, there are a few (perhaps many more than a few) who are so radicalized that they would kill their fellow Americans? Must we continue to be neutral in handling all people from different groups even though we know that there are differential risks posed by people of one group? The problem here is a heightened version of the airport security problem, where we check all people--including Chinese grandmothers--regardless of risk profiles. But can we afford that on a grand, national scale?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: goingmuslim; hasan; islam; jihad; varadarajan
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The author has caught flak for writing this essay -- one can Google "going Muslim" for stories.
1 posted on 11/19/2009 3:15:09 AM PST by reaganaut1
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The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat: Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights’. When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
Nation % Muslim
United States 1.0%
Australia 1.5%
Italy 1.5%
Norway 1.8%
Canada 1.9%
China 2.0%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Nation % Muslim
Denmark 2.0%
United Kingdom 2.7%
Germany 3.7%
Spain 4.0%
Thailand 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).
Nation % Muslim
Switzerland 4.3%
Philippines 5.0%
Sweden 5.0%
The Netherlands 5.5%
Trinida and Tabago 5.8%
France 8.0%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).
Nation % Muslim
Guyana 10.0%
India 13.4%
Israel 16.0%
Kenya 10.0%
Russia 15.0%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Nation % Muslim
Ethiopia 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Nation % Muslim
Bosnia 40.0%
Chad 50.1%
Lebanon 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Nation % Muslim
Albania 70.0%
Malaysia 60.4%
Qatar 77.5%
Sudan 70.0%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Nation % Muslim
Bangladesh 83.0%
Egypt 90.0%
Gaza 98.7%
Indonesia 86.1%
Iran 98.0%
Iraq 97.0%
Jordan 92.0%
Morocco 98.7%
Pakistan 97.0%
Syria 90.0%
Tajikistan 90.0%
Turkey 99.8%
United Arab Emirates 96.0%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Nation % Muslim
Yemen 99.9%
Afghanistan 100.0%
Saudi Arabia 100.0%
Somalia 100.0%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
“Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.” – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’.
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

2 posted on 11/19/2009 3:17:14 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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These guys have the right idea...
3 posted on 11/19/2009 3:26:00 AM PST by x_plus_one (Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to have George Santayana quoted at them forever)
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To: verga

Ther are no moderate Muslim, only Muslims who havent “Gone Muslim” yet.


4 posted on 11/19/2009 3:26:14 AM PST by Venturer
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To: verga
St James the Moorslayer, one of the most valiant saints and knights the world ever had ... has been given by God to Spain for its patron and protection. Cervantes, Don Quixote.Santiago Matamoros - St. James the Lesser was good for Spain too..
5 posted on 11/19/2009 3:28:03 AM PST by x_plus_one (Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to have George Santayana quoted at them forever)
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In an attempt to expand into Europe, Ottoman Turks under the command of Grand Vizier Kara Mustafa laid siege to Vienna for two months. A coalition of Polish, German and Austrians led by John III Sobieski, the King of Poland, arrived before Vienna to raise the siege. Sobieski led a charge of 20,000 cavalry, including the fearsome Winged Hussars into the Ottoman camp and completely routed their army. The battle was over in three hours, the Turks fled the field leaving behind tents, weapons, battle standards and provisions. The threat to Europe had been reversed, and this battle signaled the beginning of the end for the Ottoman Empire. Jan Sobieski - King of Poland and his winged hussars saved Europe in 1683...
6 posted on 11/19/2009 3:33:22 AM PST by x_plus_one (Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to have George Santayana quoted at them forever)
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To: verga

Thanks for posting these tables.


7 posted on 11/19/2009 3:35:10 AM PST by samtheman
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To: verga
The lance of the Hussars was 4.5 - 5.5 m in length. I was their secret weapon
The Polish Husaria saved Europe by means of horse and lance...

8 posted on 11/19/2009 3:41:24 AM PST by x_plus_one (Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to have George Santayana quoted at them forever)
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Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
9 posted on 11/19/2009 3:54:06 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: reaganaut1

ping


10 posted on 11/19/2009 4:02:53 AM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: reaganaut1; LucyT; nw_arizona_granny; Oorang; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; LibertyRocks

ping


11 posted on 11/19/2009 4:07:22 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Travis McGee

And the “Trojan” covering the “Dickhead” in Washington, is the veil of his secret past.


12 posted on 11/19/2009 4:08:33 AM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: reaganaut1
The author has caught flak for writing this essay -- one can Google "going Muslim" for stories.

I think he should have said "Going Islamic" which would more accurately describe the jihadist mentality. Not all Muslims support terrorism so it is viewed as bigoted.

13 posted on 11/19/2009 4:23:35 AM PST by Always Right
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Let the first lesson of the Hasan atrocity be this: The U.S. Army has to be a PC-free zone. Our democracy and our way of life depend on it.

This is an important practical point. We're going to be for promoting PC "diversity." Personally, I don't think Muslims should be accepted in the US military at all because they subscribe to an ideology that advocates the violent overthrow of the United States and its submission to their ideology.

While they may not all be active enemies of the US, as the author points out, this is an essential part of the Islamic system and any one of them may "go Muslim" at any time. Not only is it a hazard to our military personnel, but there is a significant danger that these internal jihadis would slow our overall response to any larger Muslim attack on the US.

14 posted on 11/19/2009 4:36:16 AM PST by livius
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I like the term. From now on when I leave the house, I’m gonna tell my dogs, “Dont make me come home and get all muslim on ya”


15 posted on 11/19/2009 4:41:44 AM PST by scoobysnak71
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To: reaganaut1

Tunku Varadarajan —> he’s Indian Hindu definitely. They know how these beasts who worship the moon god act.


16 posted on 11/19/2009 5:17:39 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina NOW!!! 2010 -- Kick the dims OUT!!)
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To: reaganaut1
THE SING-ALONG SAYS IT


17 posted on 11/19/2009 6:51:18 AM PST by doug from upland (Barack Hussein Obama - making Jimmy Carter look better every day)
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To: Always Right

All Muslims support Islam, therefore they support terror as it is part of Islam. By being an inactive opponent you are enabling the jihadists. Just as there was no such thing as moderate “nazis” or “communists” there are no moderate Muslims...


18 posted on 11/19/2009 7:40:54 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: scoobysnak71
Instead of "getting medieval on yer hiney" it's "getting muslim", etc.

Same thing.

19 posted on 11/19/2009 7:54:17 AM PST by thulldud (It HAS happened here!)
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To: x_plus_one

“Belgian police are guarding a 17th century pulpit in a Catholic Church in the Flemish town of Dendermonde after threats from muslims. The pulpit depicts a man subdued by angels and is believed to represent the triumph of Christianity over Islam. The man is generally thought to be Mohammed. He is also holding a book which is generally assumed to be the Koran. The pulpit in the church of Our Lady dates from 1685— two years after the battle of Vienna when the Christian armies of the Polish King John III Sobieski defeated the Turks who were poised to overrun Europe.”


20 posted on 11/19/2009 8:05:36 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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