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"Should We Fear a Constitutional Convention?"
Hogue News ^ | November 19, 2009 | Nick Kump

Posted on 11/19/2009 2:52:04 PM PST by hoguenews

When we were young, we learned about the best and brightest minds in the nation coming together to create the foundation of a new country and fundamentally change the role of government in the lives of the people. Now there is a proposal to have a similar Constitutional Convention in California, but without those great minds, how are we to be sure that we get a document that rewrites the Constitution for the better and not make our state’s problems even worse?

It is important to note that according to recent article in the Ventura County Star by Timm Herdt, all of the candidates running for governor either support or are open to supporting the proposal, except for Steve Poizner. This could be a strategic move or he could really be worried about it resulting in higher taxes, but it gives Poizner the unique opportunity to distinguish himself from every candidate in the field. According to a press release from Repair California, the group organizing the proposal, 70 percent of registered Republicans, 71 percent of Democrats and 74 percent of decline to state voters support the proposal. If those numbers continue to stay that high, Poizner could end up on the wrong side of this issue.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; california; concon; constitution; convention; government; hoguenews; poizner; repaircalifornia
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1 posted on 11/19/2009 2:52:08 PM PST by hoguenews
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To: hoguenews

with all the nut jobs out there, I don’t think a constitutional convention ANYWHERE would make any of us more free. That’s a real scary thought to me.


2 posted on 11/19/2009 2:54:21 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: hoguenews

All you need to do is look at the direction of Californicates current political climate, and you’ll realize the direction a new constitution would go.


3 posted on 11/19/2009 2:55:09 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: hoguenews

A Constitutional Convention in this climate would truly be a nightmare visited upon the American people and the world in fact it would prove to be the total downfall of Freedom loving people everywhere !


4 posted on 11/19/2009 3:01:45 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Screaming in Agony they ran to the Government But then Realized from whence the Agony came !)
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To: hoguenews

Too dangerous.

I submit that the majority of people in this country do not even know what a “delegated powers instrument” is.

Even worse, if you explained to them, and they were actually able to understand it, they would probably think it’s a bad idea. Most people think that government doesn’t “do enough” as it is.


5 posted on 11/19/2009 3:01:49 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: hoguenews
the best and brightest minds in the nation coming together to create the foundation of a new country and fundamentally change the role of government in the lives of the people.

Yeah, for the worse! They took a functioning confederacy and turned it into a national monstrosity.

6 posted on 11/19/2009 3:01:52 PM PST by Huck (The Constitution--a big government boondoggle.)
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To: hoguenews

I don’t want the DC mafia anywhere near the constitution.


7 posted on 11/19/2009 3:04:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: hoguenews

NO CONCON!

With the current ILLITERACY rate and the corrupt “leaders” now infesting America, a CONCON WOULD NOT END WELL!!!!


8 posted on 11/19/2009 3:08:29 PM PST by Dick Bachert ('08 WASN'T AN ELECTION. IT WAS AN INFESTATION. FUMIGATION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!)
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To: hoguenews; Travis McGee; All

People would do well to read Matthew Bracken’s take on a CONCON in his novels.


9 posted on 11/19/2009 3:14:55 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: hoguenews

This idea of a Constitutional Convention is nothing more than an end run around the current Constitution requiring a super majority to increase taxes. The libs that run this state want it to be a simple majority. If they get their way I’m moving out.


10 posted on 11/19/2009 3:17:40 PM PST by vigilence
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To: hoguenews
"Many people are worried about the convention running wild and overstepping its own authority, but this proposal is extremely limiting in what can be discussed. It limits reform to four areas: the budget process, the election and initiative process, restoring the balance of power between local and state governments and creating new systems to improve government effectiveness. More important than what it says you are supposed to discuss is what it says cannot be reformed; the proposal specifically prohibits tax increases and social reforms such as marriage, abortion, gambling or casinos of any type, affirmative action, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, immigration or the death penalty. All of the deliberations would also be made public, not like the original Constitutional Convention where everything was kept secret."

A convention running wild is the least of our worries and the fear thereof just goes to show how cowardly we've become.

It would be a means of repealing the one amendment that put us in this mess in the first place. This being the 16th created in 1913 that gave the federal government powers to tax the income of individuals and businesses to redistribute this wealth to others as the government sees fit and to bring the full weight of the federal government down on anyone who doesn't comply.

Far worse would be a second civil war, collapse or revolution as some have called for.

11 posted on 11/19/2009 3:29:08 PM PST by Errant (`)
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To: hoguenews
With the people running California, you'll get this... if you're lucky.
12 posted on 11/19/2009 3:32:12 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Errant

We are best to just correctly interpret the Constitution we already have.


13 posted on 11/19/2009 3:37:13 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: MediaMole
They really just want to introduce the term 'peasants' for those of us who used to be in the middle class.

Interesting reading though. I've never seen it before.

14 posted on 11/19/2009 3:39:08 PM PST by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right...exercise...die anyway)
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To: cornfedcowboy
"We are best to just correctly interpret the Constitution"

If only that were possible. I'm afraid the ones interpreting the constitution now have been corrupted way beyond their ability to determine right from wrong as someone like yourself, a common citizen, would be able to.

Our only chance barring the ability to put strong conservatives in office is to cut off the funding that keeps the federal leviathan alive.

15 posted on 11/19/2009 3:44:43 PM PST by Errant (`)
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To: hoguenews

Oh my God yes, we should fear this! Can you imagine what a mess they would make of it? For once I agree with Poizner.


16 posted on 11/19/2009 3:46:04 PM PST by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: hoguenews
"Should We Fear a Constitutional Convention?"

Most rational people used to and with very good solid reasons: the opening of the door to every nutcase which has the support of equally ignorant national legislators and judges could turn the Constitution into a bad dream.

Used to.

But where's the harm if the present Neo-fascist administration seems to be doing precisely that, destroying the Constitution, without going through the bother of meeting the Constitutional requirements for amending the Constitution?

17 posted on 11/19/2009 3:48:52 PM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: hoguenews

Yes! That’s the short answer.

We do want to keep the Second Amendment, don’t we? Just think of what the delegates from the blue states would do to that! For goodness sakes, it’s not worth any debate.


18 posted on 11/19/2009 3:52:22 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

For now we have a majority of Red states and maybe even a super majority as would be required to ammend. After 12 million illegals and 2 million felons vote in the next election who knows...


19 posted on 11/19/2009 3:57:44 PM PST by Errant (`)
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To: hoguenews

The only change we need to the Constitution is an amendment to limit the 44th president’s term to 12 months.


20 posted on 11/19/2009 4:13:17 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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