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Global Warming’s Blue Dress Moment? The CRU EMail Hack Scandal WooHOO!!
roy spencer ^ | 11/20/2009 | dr roy spencer

Posted on 11/20/2009 9:52:29 AM PST by milwguy

The recent hacking of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) computer system has led to the release of hundreds, if not thousands, of e-mails which — if real — reveal the tactics and motivations of some of the top Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) scientists. I hesitate to name names, but there are several websites now buzzing with all of the details and sample e-mails. The e-mails I have seen appear genuine, with obscure scientific details and language that would take considerable effort to create as part of a hoax.

While it is too early to tell just yet, there seems to be considerable damning evidence that data have been hidden or destroyed to avoid Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) data requests; data have been manipulated in order to get results that best suit the pro-anthropogenic global warming agenda of the IPCC; e-mails that contain incriminating discussions are being deleted. And, on the bright side, we skeptics seem to be quite a thorn in the side of the IPCC.

In reading these e-mails from the ‘other side’ of the scientific debate I am particularly amazed at the mindset of a few of these scientists. I exchange e-mails with other like-minded (read ‘skeptical’) scientists, as do the IPCC scientists with their peers. But never do I hear of anyone manipulating climate data to achieve a certain end. I must say that I am pleased to see that NCAR scientist Kevin Trenberth admits that it is a “travesty” that no one can explain the lack of global warming in recent years.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; globalwarming; gorebalism; hadleycru
The mainstream skeptics are now going on record. This is going to get ugly for Manbearpig Al Gore and his allies very quickly.

As of this writing, the BBC is the first mainstream news source to cover the story. But instead of discussing the content of any of the e-mails, the BBC is focusing on the illegal nature of the computer system breach. An expert was quoted who alluded to the contentious nature of the global warming debate, and how both sides would resort to tricks to help their side.

That’s pretty rich. If the hacked e-mails — with incriminating content — just happened to be Sarah Palin’s, does ANYONE believe that news reports would avoid disclosing the content of those e-mails?

1 posted on 11/20/2009 9:52:30 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

Rush Limbaugh is talking about this right now. He said details could be found on Climate Depot, but the server is busy.


2 posted on 11/20/2009 9:54:05 AM PST by WesternMA
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To: milwguy

3 posted on 11/20/2009 9:56:06 AM PST by mnehring
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To: WesternMA

OK, now that El Rushbo is on the case, maybe Matt Drudge will grow some balls and post. I have sent him stories from WSJ, BBC, Guardian UK, and Telegraph about this.

Rush should point people to BBC or another big entity to get the story out. Climateaudit.org has basically crashed since last night when the story went viral. The traffic there is huge. Wattsupwiththat.com is another good source.


4 posted on 11/20/2009 9:57:55 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

Just what we all knew... humans are too puny to affect the climate but NOT too puny to manipulate facts for socialist politics.

Ho hum... what else is new?


5 posted on 11/20/2009 9:58:02 AM PST by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: milwguy

Here are two places you can get the files. One by torrent and one a straight download, respectively.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=75J4XO4T


6 posted on 11/20/2009 10:00:29 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Downloaded earlier today. If these things are legit, this is a massive fraud on the AGW’s part (no surprise to us) and blatant conspiracy. I doubt Holder would have the balls though to explore RICO charges. It was all about manipulating data to get the largest grants possible and to, basically, extort money from companies. There also are some indications they were investing and positioning into companies that would benefit from their fraud. Worst of all, it wasn’t like they were tricked. This is about as blatant as you can get.


7 posted on 11/20/2009 10:06:28 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Spike Knotts

One quote from an email titled “Fishers” - “The elevation corrected south GRIP Holocene has a very strong
negative delta trend in it and I expect there should be some correction done to the north GRIP record too,, eventually I think they should all come out looking like our records from Northern Canada. Now at least ice core records have some low frequencies to correct... not like your bloody trees that can not remember one century to the next”

This email outlines blatant changing of data in order to make it fit with the result they want. They admit the data they collected trends against the results they want but to ‘preserve their funding’ they need to “correct the data”.


8 posted on 11/20/2009 10:15:45 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Spike Knotts; All
The Global Warming “scientists” are OH so BUSTED:

http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/cruemails106.php

At 17:07 27/10/2009, Michael Mann wrote:

Hi Phil,

Thanks—we know that. The point is simply that if we want to talk about about a meaningful “2009” anomaly, every additional month that is available from which to calculate an annual mean makes the number more credible. We already have this for GISTEMP, but have been awaiting HadCRU to be able to do a more decisive update of the status of the disingenuous “globe is cooling” contrarian talking point,

mike

p.s. be a bit careful about what information you send to Andy and what emails you copy him in on. He's not as predictable as we'd like


ANY CHANCE YOU HACKERS CAN
GET INTO OBAMA'S OR RAHM'S BLACKBERRY?!

9 posted on 11/20/2009 10:19:26 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: mnehring; All

Yep, there’s not much Federal or International funding to DISprove Global Warming, now is there?

This is not about "preserving mother earth." This is about these “scientists” lying to “preserve their funding”. Just like the Capitalists they disdain — this is all about MONEY and preserving their cash flow!

Climatic Research Unit

What ELSE have the Climate Research Unit Scientists lied about?!


10 posted on 11/20/2009 10:33:49 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
Just like the Capitalists they disdain

Except Capitalists have to produce a product/service/good that someone wants to consume in order to make their evil money. These folks are basically extorting it.

11 posted on 11/20/2009 10:39:07 AM PST by mnehring
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To: milwguy

Sorry to throw a wet blanket on the celebration, but it was wrong when the baby-democrat-thug hacked Sarah Palin’s email, and it was wrong to hack these emails. The person who did it has committed a crime and should (and probably will) be prosecuted. That said, I will not mind if our scientists both lose credibility as they so richly deserve and become (shocking suggestion) scientific in their future research to avoid a repeat of this embarrassment.


12 posted on 11/20/2009 10:39:40 AM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: BP2

Do you know if we have one main thread to analyze these documents?


13 posted on 11/20/2009 10:44:35 AM PST by mnehring
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To: TurtleUp

No one is saying that the hackers shouldn’t be prosecuted, however, it appears that there also should be a much bigger fraud and RICO prosecution going on in light of these findings.


14 posted on 11/20/2009 10:47:40 AM PST by mnehring
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To: milwguy

I wish I could print out those emails and duck tape them to Newt Gingrich’s head.


15 posted on 11/20/2009 10:52:21 AM PST by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: sportutegrl

I wouldn’t waste duct tape on Newt, duct take has too many good uses, unlike Newt.


16 posted on 11/20/2009 10:56:32 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring; All
This seems to be the thread with the most posts:

Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390574/posts

This thread is smaller but has good analysis too:

Breaking: Hackers Infiltrate World's Leading Climate Research Unit (Panic)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390785/posts

17 posted on 11/20/2009 11:01:14 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: mnehring
No one is saying that the hackers shouldn’t be prosecuted, however, it appears that there also should be a much bigger fraud and RICO prosecution going on in light of these findings.

Thank you. I wasn't sure people had noticed the (much milder) crime on the other side. As for prosecution, I don't think friends of Al Gore and of our Dear Leader have much to worry about. Unfortunately.

18 posted on 11/20/2009 11:07:20 AM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: milwguy

I hope this is all true and not a hoax. They say 1,097 e-mails, 60+ docs compliling over 65 megs of data.

I would like to see the entire file. But so far, only bits and peices are being made public. Bits and peices could be manufactured. I saw the interview but don’t know the guy confirming they had been hacked.


19 posted on 11/20/2009 11:39:16 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: Tenacious 1

If you want the whole file to download yourself, it is here

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=75J4XO4T


20 posted on 11/20/2009 11:42:31 AM PST by milwguy
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To: Spike Knotts

Download Later


21 posted on 11/20/2009 11:44:56 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: Tenacious 1
I would like to see the entire file. But so far, only bits and peices are being made public.

Download it then. It's all over. I downloaded it this morning. It's packed full of stuff.

22 posted on 11/20/2009 11:45:28 AM PST by Malsua
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To: TurtleUp
Sorry to throw a wet blanket on the celebration, but it was wrong when the baby-democrat-thug hacked Sarah Palin’s email, and it was wrong to hack these emails.

They'd walk under a necessity defense of I were on their jury. These are professors working for public universities with grants from the taxpayers. Every word they write while on the job is subject to inspection by anybody who cares to demand it, but these guys were stonewalling.

This is an enormously important victory.

23 posted on 11/20/2009 11:48:29 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: TurtleUp
Sorry to throw a wet blanket on the celebration, but it was wrong when the baby-democrat-thug hacked Sarah Palin’s email, and it was wrong to hack these emails.

I am going to go ahead and dissagree with you here. If the intent was personal distruction and malice, this would be an agregious act. Instead, this alleged crime was perpetrated to uncover another alleged crime, FRAUD! The biggest of all time.

Authorities often must bend the law to prove crime. FBI sells or buys drugs. Undercover Cops pose as Hooker's to catch thieves. Whole communities announce a prize won to attact warranties.

24 posted on 11/20/2009 11:50:47 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: milwguy

To download from home.


25 posted on 11/20/2009 11:52:58 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: TurtleUp

Ordinarily, I’d agree with you. However, these “scientists” appear to have been breaking the law by destroying information requested via FOIA. What these so-called scientists were doing is part of a much bigger crime, IMO.

BTW, I don’t think the ACORN hidden camera crew ought to be prosecuted in Maryland, either. They also uncovered a serious crime.


26 posted on 11/20/2009 11:56:42 AM PST by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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To: milwguy

Looks like the initial response from the AGW community is up:

http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/20/hacked-hadley-emails-hottest-decade-on-record-and-the-oceans-planet-keep-warming/


27 posted on 11/20/2009 12:18:46 PM PST by gnewburg
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To: TurtleUp
Technically it was also wrong for Giles and O'Keefe to record the ACORN crooks without their knowledge. But, when all our politicians, and law enforcement, and the media are so weak and corrupt that they are complicit in all the lawlessness we see right before our eyes, what are we supposed to do?

Their refusal to do their damn jobs will destroy us. So, people are beginning to take the law into their own hands.

28 posted on 11/20/2009 12:18:48 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: milwguy

I personally hope that every one of the leftist who invested billions into this scam end up losing most of their money. IMHO that would be poetic justice since they tried to defraud all of us with higher taxes for something that can’t be controlled.


29 posted on 11/20/2009 12:41:36 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: milwguy; Genesis defender; markomalley; scripter; proud_yank; grey_whiskers; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ..
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

Thursday, November 19, 2009

The Blue-Dress Moment May Have Arrived   [Chris Horner]

I am not able to fully digest this at present, catching up with the boys from days away and then up at O-Dark-Thirty for a flight to California for a talk, but check out what Anthony Watts among others have posted.

Now, none of us can attest to the validity of what has been posted on a Russian server (nor can we even be sure of how it was obtained, though it purports to be non-classified data held by a purely public agency subject to freedom of information/transparency laws). But I'm told it's almost 61 megabytes of files, and after a few days of scrutiny appears (to the kind of people who would know) to be legitimate. And very revealing, both the data and what are represented to be comments and admissions by leading lights on Team Alarmist.

If legit, this apparently devastating series of revelations will be very hard for the media to ignore. I didn't say impossible — they're fully vested partners in the global warming industry, because catastrophism sells. But so does scandal, and this appears to be the makings of a very big one. Imagine this sort of news coming in the field of AIDS research. Then reflect that the taxpayer spends more on climate-related research than on the entire suite of AIDS programs, far beyond drug research.


30 posted on 11/20/2009 12:45:26 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison!)
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To: milwguy

“OK, now that El Rushbo is on the case, maybe Matt Drudge will grow some balls and post. I have sent him stories from WSJ, BBC, Guardian UK, and Telegraph about this.”

Failure to report this will demonstrate for sure who is on the treason propaganda payroll list.


31 posted on 11/23/2009 2:36:11 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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