The CRU hack ("climatologists" respond)

RealClimate ^ | 11/20/2009

[markomalley]

Gee...I guess somebody is a little upset.

[rightwingextremist1776]

Screw them.....bastards. I hope this brings to whole scam to light. The we can prosecute the bastards for fraud.

[Crim]

Once again...the “so what” defense...

[icwhatudo]

no evidence of the falsifying of data???

The email states to hide the decline!

[paulcissa]

Some one in the IT industry should have told these "big-brains" that NOTHING is secure once it leaves the keyboard.

Seems like the spin must begin now that the ass has been bared.

[eeevil conservative]

let the hacking begin.....

[Brett66]

There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to ‘get rid of the MWP’, no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords

Hiding or altering data is not an admission of the hoax, it is a propagation of a hoax.

[JPG]

They do protest too much. The fact remains that for at least the last 12 years the Earth HAS NOT warmed. Yet the SRM continues day after day with OMG scenarios. AGW is a pile of steaming Gore/Reid/Boxer...too many climate “scientists” are just in it for the money, and they merrily travel down the road to their socialist utopia. The time has come to stop their madness NOW!!

[DManA]

Wrong, the whole dump is out on the net.

(a presumably careful selection of (possibly edited?)

[jim_trent]

I have to admit, this is good spin, but awfully thin. By answering in this way, they admit they are real. The onus is on them now if they claim any individual e-mail has been edited. Prove it.

[Secret Agent Man]

We’ll deal with the ethics of the hacker AFTER we deal with the ethics (or lack of depending on your POV) of these people who are deliberately lying to people and governments that use such info to set massive controlling policies across entire countries. And cost people billions for NOTHING. And allowed YOU FAKE F#$#S to FIRE, and destroy the careers of GENUINE SCIENTISTS who opposed this collaborated effort of yours, and call people who didn’t SWALLOW YOUR LIES “Global Warming Deniers” - trying to smear them akin to “Holocaust Deniers” and even trying to make it criminal to oppose global warming. Oh and when the lie was wearing thin, swithcing it to “Climate Change”. and still defending the lies and coverups and firings of opponents and demonizing anyone else opposed to this false agenda.

In short, you liars aren’t in ANY position to bitch about the hacker’s ethics until we deal with YOUR MASSIVE ETHICAL SCHEMES AND COVERUPS AND SHAMS AND PROPAGANDA.

[BillCompton]

They are really in an untenable situation. This response is spin control for willing accomplices in MSM.

The real problem they face is that this leak represents a huge amount of factual data delivered into the hands of Steve McKintyre. He will read through this stuff page by page and relentlessly pursue the information. The "team" has been stonewalling him for years and suddenly a tunnel has been revealed and McKintyre is flanking them.

The data is important.
The code is very important.
The emails and what they reveal about the FOI requests is crucial.
The interactions between the scientists is important.

Let all the sun in.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Flim Flam Man speaketh.

[Minus_The_Bear]

Exactly. the problem for these assclowns is many of the discussions mention Mckintyre by name! They talk about how they can best avoid him or make him look bad.

McKintyre deserves the Order of Canada for all of this.

[Doomonyou]

[MrB]

Luke 12:2-3
2 Everything that is secret will be brought out into the open. Everything that is hidden will be uncovered. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight. What you have whispered to someone behind closed doors will be shouted from the rooftops.

[maggief]

Who you gonna believe, your bleeding liberal heart or your lying eyes?

;)

[DannyTN]

"no evidence of the falsifying of data???"

yeah I caught that too. They threw out red herrings like no proof of Soros funding and buried that little puppy in the middle.

[Amityschild]

Oooooh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy....now, more like this!

[DouglasKC]

Scientists often use the term “trick” to refer to a “a good way to deal with a problem”, rather than something that is “secret”, and so there is nothing problematic in this at all.

lol....

Trick:

"a cunning or deceitful action or device; "he played a trick on me"; "he pulled a fast one and got away with it"

"Something designed to fool or swindle; "

"flim-flam: deceive somebody; "We tricked the teacher into thinking that class would be cancelled next week""