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Landrieu leans yes in Sat. cliffhanger
politico.com ^ | Nov. 20, 2009 | CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN

Posted on 11/20/2009 5:42:20 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Will88

See post 39 and 40.


41 posted on 11/20/2009 6:19:11 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

LIEberman is voting YES on cloture tomorrow.


42 posted on 11/20/2009 6:20:51 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Lou L
So, Sen. Landrieu, will you sleep with me for 50 cents?

“Of course not!” she exclaimed with disgust...”What kind of woman do you think I am?”

We already know what kind of woman you are...we’re just negotiating a price!

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43 posted on 11/20/2009 6:21:10 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Red Steel

This vote tomorrow is to officially bring the bill to the floor for debate/action. It takes unamious consent to do most things in the senate and to bring a bill to the floor is usually done that way. But if there is an objection then it has to be voted on. What Reid is looking for is a 60 +vote so the bringing of the bill to the floor can’t be filibustered. Once on the floor to end debate will require another 60+ vote if the vote call isn’t unamiously agreed to. Once that is accomplished then a 50 vote will passed the bill with Biden acting as the tie breaker. That’s my understanding of the process at this time.


44 posted on 11/20/2009 6:24:05 PM PST by deport
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To: LA Woman3

Made a quick trip to DU, and unbelievably, their comments on Landrieu are identical to those posted here.


45 posted on 11/20/2009 6:24:11 PM PST by pnut22
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To: Carley
LIEberman is voting YES on cloture tomorrow.

Then his past statement to block this atrocious bill was meaningless. He won't have any pull to stop the "public option plan" that he says he's against.

46 posted on 11/20/2009 6:26:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: reefdiver; Fu-fu2; Lou L

see my post at 37


47 posted on 11/20/2009 6:26:38 PM PST by Foolsgold ("We live in the greatest country in the world and I am going to change it" Barry O'boomarang 2008)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Her vote was bought with $100 million of taxpayer’s money in a special earmark within the bill.


48 posted on 11/20/2009 6:27:01 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: deport

OK, that makes sense. It’s only a vote to debate it on the the floor. Seems like a nutty Senate procedure to just vote to debate an issue.


49 posted on 11/20/2009 6:31:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Landrieu, Nelson, and Liebermann are not even necessary to Reid as long as he has at least a dozen of the GOP marxists at his beck and call. “Cliffhanger?” Give me a break. there are only a score (at best) of conservatives in the Senate. With a majority of 80 potential votes Reid’s job is a walk in the park.


50 posted on 11/20/2009 6:31:25 PM PST by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: Red Steel

The senate requires unamious consent on most all things done. If thay isn’t given then they have to get a vote. Just their rules which do make for compromise or things won’t get done unless you have a super majority to break all filibuster actions.


51 posted on 11/20/2009 6:35:22 PM PST by deport
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To: Red Steel
It appears to be double talk ; debate is already ongoing. Any leverage Lieberman had would end tomorrow if he votes for this abomination.

This has been confusing, but tomorrow night is only a procedural vote to bring the bill to the Senate floor for debate (60 votes needed). Then they have the debates where amendments can be offered. Then they have another cloture vote needing 60 votes to end the debate and amendments, to be followed by the simple majority vote on the bill as amended.

Some commentators have said that it always takes 60 votes to bring a bill to the Senate floor for debate and amendments. It might be that that is usually pretty perfunctory, and that it is receiving unusual emphasis on this particular bill.

52 posted on 11/20/2009 6:42:19 PM PST by Will88
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Landrieu is going to be in a world of hurt with the Catholic Church in Louisiana. This is the only opportunity to stop federal funding of abortions in the Senate bill (would take 60 to amend), and this bitch knows it. Problem is that she doesn’t face the voters again until 2014.


53 posted on 11/20/2009 6:44:43 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You will have about 10 to 12 democrats hold their vote to see how Joe Liberman votes. If Liberman holds to his word and the GOP does not lose a vote, the thin skinned democrats I mentioned above will vote no to cloture as well.

Thats why you see many of them non-commital


54 posted on 11/20/2009 6:45:58 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: crusher

You are dead wrong. Every GOP Senator will vote NO tomorrow night. Keep up with us, please, I am damned tired of repeating this FACT over and over. The 41st vote matters. We could kill this with 1 more vote. Our odds are 1:5.


55 posted on 11/20/2009 6:49:57 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I’m betting she sold it for the court ruling against the Corps of Engineers in the Katrina case.


56 posted on 11/20/2009 6:52:48 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Will88
Some commentators have said that it always takes 60 votes to bring a bill to the Senate floor for debate and amendments. It might be that that is usually pretty perfunctory, and that it is receiving unusual emphasis on this particular bill.

It must be pretty perfunctory and is getting unusual emphasis this time... I've been on plenty of Senate vote threads over the years.

57 posted on 11/20/2009 6:52:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
It must be pretty perfunctory and is getting unusual emphasis this time... I've been on plenty of Senate vote threads over the years.

Someone earlier said the vote to move a bill to the Senate floor for debate is usually a voice vote. I'd never noticed before that it takes 60 votes to bring a bill to the floor for debate and amendments. - Maybe we'll get the definite confirmation on that Senate rule in some of the coverage tomorrow.

58 posted on 11/20/2009 6:58:17 PM PST by Will88
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To: Red Steel

It matters because once they take up this bill, it will take 60 votes to amend it. Regarding the abortion language, there will be no way they can muster 60 votes to override the federal funding of abortions in the Reid bill. This is why the House liberals are jumping for joy. Reid has done for them what the Stupak amendment prohibited.


59 posted on 11/20/2009 6:59:47 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Free ThinkerNY

She didn’t get $100 MILLION to LEAN yes. She’s a yes. All the way.


60 posted on 11/20/2009 7:00:50 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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