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(AP:) Hackers leak e-mails, stoke climate debate
AP ^ | November 21, 2009 | DAVID STRINGER

Posted on 11/21/2009 1:28:51 PM PST by maggief

LONDON — Computer hackers have broken into a server at a well-respected climate change research center in Britain and posted hundreds of private e-mails and documents online — stoking debate over whether some scientists have overstated the case for man-made climate change.

The University of East Anglia, in eastern England, said in a statement Saturday that the hackers had entered the server and stolen data at its Climatic Research Unit, a leading global research center on climate change. The university said police are investigating the theft of the information, but could not confirm if all the materials posted online are genuine.

More than a decade of correspondence between leading British and U.S. scientists is included in about 1,000 e-mails and 3,000 documents posted on Web sites following the security breach last week.

Some climate change skeptics and bloggers claim the information shows scientists have overstated the case for global warming, and allege the documents contain proof that some researchers have attempted to manipulate data.

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The University of East Anglica said that information published on the Internet had been selected deliberately to undermine "the strong consensus that human activity is affecting the world's climate in ways that are potentially dangerous."

"The selective publication of some stolen e-mails and other papers taken out of context is mischievous and cannot be considered a genuine attempt to engage with this issue in a responsible way," the university said in a statement.

1 posted on 11/21/2009 1:28:53 PM PST by maggief
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Fine, then I’m sure in the interest of accuracy the University won’t mind publishing all of the emails and undoctored research.


2 posted on 11/21/2009 1:30:35 PM PST by JMS
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To: maggief

In other words: “Pay No Attention to That Man Behind the Curtain!!”


3 posted on 11/21/2009 1:30:51 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Once they've called you a racist, you've got nothing to lose.)
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To: maggief; Beowulf; Genesis defender; markomalley; scripter; proud_yank; grey_whiskers; FrPR; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 11/21/2009 1:31:00 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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"cannot be considered a genuine attempt to engage with this issue in a responsible way,"

Which, by implication, means the emails and docs, themselves cannot be considered in a genuine and responsible way.

5 posted on 11/21/2009 1:31:26 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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"The selective publication of some stolen e-mails and other papers taken out of context is mischievous and cannot be considered a genuine attempt to engage with this issue in a responsible way," the university said in a statement.

Oh, do they mean like the same way they shut out the voices of non-believers in the man-made global warming religion?
6 posted on 11/21/2009 1:31:29 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: JMS

And if it was all made-up forgeries, then they don’t need to find a hacker, do they? Nothing was hacked, if that’s true.


7 posted on 11/21/2009 1:32:29 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: maggief

Buzzwords: “out of context”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/20/AR2009112004093.html?hpid=sec-nation

Hackers steal electronic data from top climate research center
Scientists’ e-mails deriding skeptics of warming become public

http://cbs3.com/topstories/global.warming.debate.2.1326336.html

E-Mail Hacks Heat Up Global Warming Debate


8 posted on 11/21/2009 1:33:43 PM PST by maggief
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LONDON — Computer hackers have broken into a server at a well-respected climate change research center in Britain and posted hundreds of private e-mails and documents online — stoking debate over whether some scientists have overstated the case for man-made climate change.

LOL, nice slant....'broken into'....'well-respected'....'private e-mails'....it is most likely an inside job from someone who had legitimate access. But we will make the whistler blowers sound as evil as possible.

9 posted on 11/21/2009 1:34:09 PM PST by Always Right
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One or more than one? Internal or external? Hacker or whistle blower or freedom fighter?


10 posted on 11/21/2009 1:35:20 PM PST by Paladin2
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>> Fine, then I’m sure in the interest of accuracy the University won’t mind publishing all of the emails and undoctored research.

Exactly.

Their failure to publish all of their data and context — as publicly funded university scientists are generally expected to do — is what led to the “liberation” of this material, anyhow.

I have read that it might not have been a hack job at all, but rather a “leak” from an insider.


11 posted on 11/21/2009 1:35:42 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: mrsmel

“The selective publication of some stolen e-mails and other papers taken out of context is mischievous and cannot be considered a genuine attempt to engage with this issue in a responsible way,” the university said in a statement.


“I did not have sex with that woman ...”

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”


12 posted on 11/21/2009 1:37:01 PM PST by maggief
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"in a statement Saturday"

Makin' 'em work the weekend.

Ha HA.

13 posted on 11/21/2009 1:37:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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14 posted on 11/21/2009 1:37:33 PM PST by Bon mots
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AP, where are the fact checkers?!


15 posted on 11/21/2009 1:39:48 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

How can something be stolen is no mass movement is required and the originals are not missing?


16 posted on 11/21/2009 1:41:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Always Right

Notice the media spin on this— it’s all about those damn ‘hackers’.


17 posted on 11/21/2009 1:42:19 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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>> Notice the media spin on this— it’s all about those damn ‘hackers’.

At least they’re consistent — don’t you remember how freaked out they were about hacking when Sarah Palin’s email account was hacked?

(neither do I.)


18 posted on 11/21/2009 1:44:43 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Paladin2

And, release of the data under FOIA has been stonewalled.

Oh, and where is the word “alleged?” ;)


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/s_648405.html

The climate debate: Data in doubt ...

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (PA) - Saturday, October 17, 2009

Reports that a key research institution destroyed its original climate data set, which was used by global-warming soothsayers, reveal at the minimum a horrendously sloppy scientific method.

At worst, it challenges the very premise upon which this “science” is based.

Data compiled by the United Kingdom’s University of East Anglia ‘s Climate Research Unit (CRU) have been used as the primary reference for the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (until 2007), among other agencies.

In mid-August, CRU destroyed raw data for its global surface temperatures findings, allegedly because of limited storage space, according to the Competitive Enterprise Institute.

The missing data beg suspicions. Which is why CEI has petitioned the Environmental Protection Agency to reopen its global warming proceedings.

Gang Green dismisses the data dilemma as a mere “dust-up.” And besides, the cluckers cluck, it’s not the only data set that’s been used to build their case.

Except for the fact that their supposed “case” for emission caps and taxes has come under increasing scrutiny, and rebuttal, from experts who demonstrate far greater regard for scientific methods.

If the raw data set was so inconsequential, so, too, is the abysmal science that draws from it.


19 posted on 11/21/2009 1:53:39 PM PST by maggief
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Folks- for the latest on the issue- head over to Marc Moran’s site climatedepot- Here’s a lsit of the articles he’s posting on this issue- As well, the CRU director has just admitted the emaisl are ifnact genuine:

Read All About it! Climate Depot Exclusive - Continuously

Updated ‘ClimateGate’ News Round Up

‘The warmist conspiracy: The emails that most damn Phil Jones’

Update: CRU Emails - Searchable Database Set Up

WSJ: Skeptics ‘see blood in the water’ — Files reveal scientists apparently making references to things like ‘hiding the decline’ in temps

Scientist changes graphs to eliminate cooling? ‘I’ll maybe cut the last few points off the filtered curve’

‘A scandal that is one of the greatest in modern science’
Mann tells Jones that it would be nice to ‘contain’ the putative Medieval Warm Period’

Aussie Daily Telegraph: ‘If these scientists had the doubts they appear to have had concerning global warming, they should have gone public with those doubts’

Climatologist Roy Spencer on scandal: The ‘data has been manipulated in order to get results that best suit pro-anthropogenic global warming agenda of UN IPCC’

Michael Mann email: ‘definitely overstates any singular confidence I have in my own (Mann et al) series’

UK Telegraph: ‘For links to all the latest updates on this, I recommend Marc Morano’s invaluable Climate Depot site’

‘If they are real and not fake, this is absolute dynamite, and will destroy the credibility of the alarmist cause’

‘May sully the reputations of a number of working scientists’


20 posted on 11/21/2009 1:55:20 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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