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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Without insult, will someone please succintly, clearly, explain the next steps procedureally?

What are the chances, inside the beltway chances of the two houses making a bill they agree with?

Was this fluff and there really isn’t a chance or is there really a chance we’re a DEAD country?


45 posted on 11/21/2009 5:14:19 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

This may help you out:

Saturday Vote to Ration Health Care, Fine Any Without Insurance

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112009/content/01125106.guest.html


60 posted on 11/21/2009 5:19:24 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Let's ROLL!!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

[Mark Steyn]

I don’t like to say I told you so, but I’ve been saying for months now that the trick is to drag this thing across the finish line with 50.0000000000001 per cent of the vote as soon as possible. From my “Happy Warrior” column in NR back in July:

Obama believes in “the fierce urgency of now”, and fierce it is. That’s where all the poor befuddled sober centrists who can’t understand why the Democrats keep passing incoherent 1,200-page bills every week are missing the point. If “health care” were about health care, the devil would be in the details. But it’s not about health or costs or coverage; it’s about getting over the river and burning the bridge. It doesn’t matter what form of governmentalized health care gets passed as long as it passes. Once it’s in place, it will be “reformed”, endlessly, but it will never be undone.

Right now, they can trade anything - abortion, death panels, whatever. The trick is to plant the seed and let the ratchet effect of Big Government take care of the rest. I said on Rush’s show on Friday that if Barack Obama had been Bill Clinton he’d have woken up on Wednesday morning and begun triangulating. Instead, Obama woke up and figured that he needed more fierce urgency, and right now. The short-term hit in 2010 is worth it for the long-term benefits: Obscure congressmen will be just as happy as obscure ambassadors or obscure chairmen of obscure agencies. And the prize of permanent irreversible statist annexation merits the risk: Governmentalized “health care” puts us on the fast track to Euro-sclerosis and redefines the relationship between citizen and state in ways that make genuine conservative politics all but impossible.

Will the Senate stop it? And, if they don’t, will a post-2010 GOP Congress reverse it? The way they reversed, say, the federal Department of Education?


66 posted on 11/21/2009 5:20:17 PM PST by roses of sharon (A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Steps are to debate the Senate language, maybe amend it, then notify the house that there is a a difference and probably request a conference.

Getting the bill out of the Senate is a prerequisite of requesting a conference. The GOP can object to passage of the bill, and/or any amendment. Each persistent objection results in a 60 vote threshold to move ahead.

If the bill gets to Conference, the "take it up, amend it, pass it again" routine must be repeated until both chambers agree on exactly the same language.

71 posted on 11/21/2009 5:22:14 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: CincyRichieRich

And what are the chances we can get enough of this bill thrown out as unconstitutional to basicly neuter it.


81 posted on 11/21/2009 5:27:08 PM PST by Yogafist
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