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Bullets are speeding faster out of gun shops in U.S.
The washington Post ^ | November 3, 2009 | David A. Fahrenthold and Fredrick Kunkle

Posted on 11/22/2009 2:47:35 PM PST by An Old Man

In a year of job losses, foreclosures and bag lunches, Americans have spent record-breaking amounts of money on guns and ammunition. The most obvious sign of their demand: empty ammunition shelves.

At points during the past year, bullets have been selling faster than factories could make them.

Gun owners have bought about 12 billion rounds of ammunition in the past year, industry officials estimate. That's up from 7 billion to 10 billion in a normal year.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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I'm really disappointed in this article. Although it does a fine job of discussing the generalities of why Americans are buying huge stocks of ammunition, something is grossly wrong!

The article states that "In between, in the 12 months since last October, gun shops sold enough bullets to give every American 38 of them".

Do some of you have more than your share?

1 posted on 11/22/2009 2:47:36 PM PST by An Old Man
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To: An Old Man

I have concocted a new syllogism:

Not all people who have tattoos are wicked, but all wicked people have tattoos.

I like it, think it will catch on?


2 posted on 11/22/2009 2:48:31 PM PST by the anti-mahdi
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To: An Old Man

“It has happened, oddly, at a time when the two concerns that usually make people buy guns and bullets — crime and increased gun control — seem less threatening than usual.”

The Liberal media would like to convince Americans that gun control is on the back burner with this administration.


3 posted on 11/22/2009 2:52:05 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: An Old Man

Do some of you have more than your share?

__________________________

Absolutely. I have enough for my entire life and plenty for my family and friends.

It’s not like ammo will get cheaper anytime soon. It’s outperformed most investments.


4 posted on 11/22/2009 2:52:43 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: An Old Man
Do some of you have more than your share?

I have thousands of rounds for every piece I own except my shotguns and Bulldog .44.
5 posted on 11/22/2009 2:53:15 PM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: An Old Man

I have tried to help those numbers, but I am still way behind.


6 posted on 11/22/2009 2:53:44 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: An Old Man
In between, in the 12 months since last October, gun shops sold enough bullets to give every American 38 of them".

Only 38? That doesn't seem very many, does it? Maybe they're not including internet sales? I know I've been doing my part to help stimulate this economy!

7 posted on 11/22/2009 2:54:06 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: An Old Man

It is all a real vote of confidence in the agenda and intent of the present administration and the people pulling the strings.


8 posted on 11/22/2009 2:56:01 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: An Old Man
Do some of you have more than your share?

Of course. After all, we aren't communist equalitarians.

I think I've bought 2300 rounds of centerfire, and 2000 rounds of .22 LR since it became obvious that O'bummer was going to be The One. Also bought a new AR carbine, 1,050 of those rounds were for it, as were the 2,000 rounds of .22 LR (bought an adapter as well) . Need to order another 500 or 1000 of 5.56 and maybe 250 of .45 ACP (250 of the above total was .45, the rest were .30 carbine)

9 posted on 11/22/2009 2:56:48 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: An Old Man

I find this to be very encouraging news. Thanks for posting. :)


10 posted on 11/22/2009 2:58:08 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (We have a Pisher in Chief!)
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To: An Old Man

When my husband was buying his deer tag I noticed that there still was very little ammo left.

It is amazing some of the people who are stocking up on food too, even liberals. It is either a mass hysteria or the instinct to survive is kicking in.


11 posted on 11/22/2009 2:58:31 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: An Old Man

Anybody ever come across a thread on a gunblog, where a guy was describing his move to Idaho. After getting to know his neighbor, he felt like he could confide to him “I have 30,000 rounds of ammunition for my guns”

The neighbor, in true Idaho fashion, replied “That’s OK, there is still time to buy more...”

I love that story!


12 posted on 11/22/2009 2:58:33 PM PST by gettinolder
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To: the anti-mahdi

I’m not sure of the connection between tattoos and bullets,so just let me add the image in the Shroud looks like Sammy Davis Jr. There, I said it.


13 posted on 11/22/2009 2:59:20 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: El Gato

My local Walmart has been out of .22LR for months now.


14 posted on 11/22/2009 3:00:29 PM PST by csmusaret (Fox is more of a news network than Obama is an American President.)
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To: El Gato
Mike Adams (Townhall.com) is smiling.
15 posted on 11/22/2009 3:04:40 PM PST by immadashell
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To: tiki
It is amazing some of the people who are stocking up on food too, even liberals. It is either a mass hysteria or the instinct to survive is kickin.

When the dollar reaches zero in the near future bullets will be real currency.

16 posted on 11/22/2009 3:07:31 PM PST by immadashell
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To: An Old Man

I’ve got a very nice Benelli O/U .410 bore but I’m having trouble finding 3” shells. Any ideas? The 410 is most likely the last shells to be made, LOL, but it really is a good varmit gun and the neighbors don’t seem to mind.


17 posted on 11/22/2009 3:08:00 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: An Old Man

...from each according to his ability to each according to his need.

I’ve got needs!!


18 posted on 11/22/2009 3:11:22 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: An Old Man

OOOOH scary. 38 per person. Terrible I tell you. Good Grief.


19 posted on 11/22/2009 3:12:34 PM PST by therut
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To: An Old Man

I have more than my share of 9mm and 25caliber and just purchased a no frills mossberg 12 gauge pump shotgun and most of my ammo stash is now 12gauge 00 buckshot and plenty of birdshot. In Palm Springs 12 gauge is very plentiful. In fact 9mm is also. Not a lot of stores sell ammo but those that do seem to be well stocked here.


20 posted on 11/22/2009 3:13:58 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (The bigger the government = The smaller the people)
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To: An Old Man
Do some of you have more than your share?

I haven't counted recently, but I'm pretty sure I've got at least 40.

21 posted on 11/22/2009 3:15:06 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: csmusaret

It’s showing up in 555s and 550s around me in quantity for just under $16.00 but at 6800 I’m good to go for now.


22 posted on 11/22/2009 3:17:31 PM PST by Stentor
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To: csmusaret

I think there is a move on for Walmart to stop ammo sales. The guy behind the counter in NE Pa.( Scranton) told me his orders were being cancelled .


23 posted on 11/22/2009 3:17:59 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies om Planet' and " Battle of the Worlds " on Blu-ray ?)
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To: An Old Man
Gun owners have bought about 12 billion rounds of ammunition in the past year, industry officials estimate. That's up from 7 billion to 10 billion in a normal year.

For any gun-grabbers who think there is a chance of gun control succeeding in this country, this should convince them to give it up.

24 posted on 11/22/2009 3:18:17 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: An Old Man

Im keeping my ammo..just me and my kin folks..

I dont have enough 38 special or 45 acp to suit me though.


25 posted on 11/22/2009 3:19:47 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

www.ammoman.com if you want to buy case lots.

Dont use it for self defense though..unless you shoot for the head, if the goblin is wearing a leather jacket hes liable to turn your scattergun into a giant suppository for you..if you get my meaning.


26 posted on 11/22/2009 3:21:49 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: tiki
"It is amazing some of the people who are stocking up on food too, even liberals."

Two years ago, my hard core survivalist friends began stockpiling food and preparing. Like ammo today, finding MREs or freeze-dried camp food was impossible. Everything was bought out. Then, the Chi-coms started buying up metals all over the world, causing the price of ammo and reloading components to sky rocket. Then came Obama. Behold a pale horse...you don't have to be particularly religious to believe something evil this way comes.
27 posted on 11/22/2009 3:22:02 PM PST by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo.)
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To: the anti-mahdi
I like it, think it will catch on?

No because i have tattoos and i'm not Wicked

28 posted on 11/22/2009 3:22:09 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Screaming in Agony they ran to the Government But then Realized from whence the Agony came !)
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To: An Old Man

Ammo is on the Christmas list of both my sons . I feel obliged to share.


29 posted on 11/22/2009 3:22:28 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies om Planet' and " Battle of the Worlds " on Blu-ray ?)
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To: PowderMonkey

I have a liberal friend who two years ago would leave a house if there was a gun stored therein.

Now, in Nov. 2009, he has a 357 ruger SP-101, a Kel Tec PF-9 9mm pistol and a 12 ga saiga shotgun. Hes constantly informing me of places to buy cheap 9mm and 38 special ammo too.

Life snuck up and scared the shit out of him Im guessing.


30 posted on 11/22/2009 3:25:08 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: All

Ive asked for 38 special target wadcutter ammo, 9mm ammo and 5.56 ammo for my Olympic M4 carbine.

This year its not as hard to find as it was last year.


31 posted on 11/22/2009 3:27:11 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Noumenon; Jeff Head

Ping.


32 posted on 11/22/2009 3:27:36 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Renegade

Have I seen this story on POOFA?


33 posted on 11/22/2009 3:30:03 PM PST by Stentor
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To: An Old Man

>”In between, in the 12 months since last October, gun shops sold enough bullets to give every American 38 of them”.

Do I get extra points if they’re in .38 Caliber?


34 posted on 11/22/2009 3:31:46 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: immadashell
Mike Adams (Townhall.com) is smiling.

As is Walter E. Williams, John M Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University.

35 posted on 11/22/2009 3:34:23 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Thanks for posting.
You are most welcome.

"I find this to be very encouraging news."
I was encouraged too, and somewhat amused! In reading further, I find that no all share my enthusium for the shooting sports.

More from the article: Reason for alarm?

The high sales have alarmed some anti-gun groups. Josh Sugarmann of the Violence Policy Center said he worries about a revival of the anti-government militia movement of the Clinton era.

"This is a pattern that is repeating itself, and it is a pattern that has tremendous risk attached to it," Sugarmann said.

But gun-rights groups say the buyers are law-abiding, and responding to legitimate concerns.

I'm forming an opinion that Mr. Sugarmann and his friends might think the Citizens of our country are getting tired of his antics.

Time will tell.

36 posted on 11/22/2009 3:41:43 PM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: An Old Man

I wish there was more linotype around here. Gas checks have gotten godawfull expensive too. We all know about primers.


37 posted on 11/22/2009 3:42:58 PM PST by VR-21 (Down to the stones, where old ghosts play.)
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To: csmusaret
My local Walmart has been out of .22LR for months now.

I didn't get it there. It's Bitter Root Valley ammunition. But I don't recall what site I bought it from. :) Maybe Cheaper than Dirt. since they carry that brand, sometimes.

38 posted on 11/22/2009 3:45:05 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: VR-21
We all know about primers.

I could use another 5-10,000 Large rifle primers just about now.

Any suggestions on who might have some?

39 posted on 11/22/2009 3:47:25 PM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: Sooth2222

Do you know of any gun owner who only has 38 rounds?
I think they meant to say that Americans own 38 guns per citizen on average.


40 posted on 11/22/2009 3:48:57 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: PowderMonkey

Lotta fairly cheap dry foods out there. Rice, pasta, egg noodles, beans. Just buy in bulk.

Shelf life is somewheres between five years and forever.


41 posted on 11/22/2009 3:49:54 PM PST by djf (Maybe life ain't about the doing - maybe it's just the trying... Hey, I don't make the rules!)
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To: An Old Man

I haven’t seen any for sale in quantity for a long time. I’ve been lucky from time to time to walk into a shop that had recently gotten some in, but they prudently limit sales to a few boxes of 100 per customer. I draw a blank everytime I check any of the on-line venues as well.


42 posted on 11/22/2009 3:53:50 PM PST by VR-21 (Down to the stones, where old ghosts play.)
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To: An Old Man

They had tons of them at the gun show last weekend.

Not being a reloader-type dude, are they all the same or are there a bunch of flavors?


43 posted on 11/22/2009 4:02:16 PM PST by djf (Maybe life ain't about the doing - maybe it's just the trying... Hey, I don't make the rules!)
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To: the anti-mahdi

I couldn’t agree more.


44 posted on 11/22/2009 4:04:34 PM PST by Alwayswatching
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To: the anti-mahdi

I couldn’t agree more.


45 posted on 11/22/2009 4:04:41 PM PST by Alwayswatching
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

I recently came across most of a box of Montgomery-Ward Redhead brand paper .410 shotshells. They were stored in a military ammo can and look like new.


46 posted on 11/22/2009 4:04:53 PM PST by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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To: Armedanddangerous; Zuben Elgenubi

Follow buckshot to the upper-middle thorax/neck, groin or armpits with a slug or two if laying lower than the attacker. That should do it with a .410. New Maverick (Mossberg) 12 gauges are pretty cheap and hold up well. With those, you can follow 00 buck loads with hardened big game slugs to handle just about any likely defense situation.


47 posted on 11/22/2009 4:05:38 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Renegade

We try to get to the gun shows early to stock up before the hoarders do!


48 posted on 11/22/2009 4:20:26 PM PST by Apple Blossom (Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed regularly, and for the same reason.)
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To: An Old Man
What a misleading headline. Based on how it's worded, I thought there had been some new ballistic breakthrough that provided higher velocities. "Sales velocity" has increased, but not muzzle velocity.

I did my share today with four bricks of .22lr Federal Champions. Gotta keep the pet .22s fed, along with the more serious stuff.

49 posted on 11/22/2009 4:23:30 PM PST by 300winmag (Zero to abject failure in under a month. A new land speed record!)
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To: djf

Several flavors.


50 posted on 11/22/2009 4:29:21 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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