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Patient trapped in a 23-year 'coma' was conscious all along
Daily Mail [UK] ^ | 23rd November 2009 | Allan Hall

Posted on 11/22/2009 5:51:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance

A man thought by doctors to be in a vegetative state for 23 years was actually conscious the whole time, it was revealed last night.

Student Rom Houben was misdiagnosed after a car crash left him totally paralysed.

He had no way of letting experts, family or friends know he could hear every word they said.

46-year-old Rom Houbne was trapped in a coma for 23 years and had no way of letting anyone know he could hear what they were saying (pictured posed by model)

Rom Houben was trapped in a coma for 23 years and had no way of letting anyone know he could hear what they were saying (pictured posed by model)

'I screamed, but there was nothing to hear,' said Mr Houben, now 46.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: coma; conscious; deathcultivation; johnnygothisgun; life; moralabsolutes; patient; prolife; schiavo; terri; trapped; vegetativestate
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1 posted on 11/22/2009 5:51:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Obamacare=NHS


2 posted on 11/22/2009 5:54:41 PM PST by omega4179 (0 is an embarrassment to us all.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Should have starved him to death, it would have been the humane thing to do. /s


3 posted on 11/22/2009 5:55:16 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: EternalVigilance

Now that’s a nightmare scenario for anyone...


4 posted on 11/22/2009 5:55:28 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: omega4179

You wouldn’t make it 3 months in a coma under obamadeth. They will take those scarce resources and make them available to some other “higher” purpose. The government will pull your plug and you won’t be able to stop them.


5 posted on 11/22/2009 5:56:16 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: wagglebee; Delphinium; MountainFlower; Steve Schulin; Gelato; joanie-f; Taxman

Personhood ping...


6 posted on 11/22/2009 5:56:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We're witnessing the slow strangulation death of American republican self-government and liberty.)
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To: Star Traveler

Remarkable he retained his sanity. I don’t think I could.


7 posted on 11/22/2009 5:56:44 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: EternalVigilance

Lucky thing for this guy that he wasn’t in Florida.


8 posted on 11/22/2009 5:57:47 PM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life Member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Yes indeed... I know what you mean...


9 posted on 11/22/2009 5:58:16 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Just finished the article, he is an incredibly strong person!!


10 posted on 11/22/2009 5:58:28 PM PST by omega4179 (0 is an embarrassment to us all.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Wow.


11 posted on 11/22/2009 6:00:39 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: EternalVigilance

Has anyone asked any of these patients when they start communicating with them if they feel anything in their extremties even though they cannot control them? Or do they feel hunger or thirst or indigestion? ... I don’t think I’ve ever read the answers to those questions posed to one of these amazing folks.


12 posted on 11/22/2009 6:00:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: EternalVigilance; AAABEST; AdamSelene235; AnnaZ; Askel5; backhoe; BlackElk; Brian Allen; ...
Thanks EV.

Evidence for fighting the death cult ghouls who are way too eager to pull plugs.

13 posted on 11/22/2009 6:01:36 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Here's my favorite line:

Supporters of euthanasia and assisted suicide argue that people who have lain in persistent vegetative states for years should be given the opportunity to have crucial medical support withdrawn because of the 'indignity' of their condition.

Talk about newspeak. The 'opportunity' to die. It is beyond sick. The mind of liberals just doesn't work right.

14 posted on 11/22/2009 6:07:56 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: EternalVigilance

And how many supposedly in a “permanent vegetative state” are in a similar situation?


15 posted on 11/22/2009 6:09:13 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: MHGinTN

Patients with locked-in syndrome have completely intact mentation and can retain sensation. It’s a very scary thing.


16 posted on 11/22/2009 6:10:05 PM PST by The Phantom FReeper (Screw Obamastan...I'm going off to find John Galt.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Wasn’t there a ‘twilight zone’ episode about this?


17 posted on 11/22/2009 6:10:47 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Before my dad died, he was in a coma-like state, but I assumed he could hear. My idiot family of course did not and continued their distressing talk. God bless this man and all who suffer in silence.


18 posted on 11/22/2009 6:14:17 PM PST by PghBaldy (James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed Martin Luther King Jr.)
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To: Sherman Logan

4 days in a hospital bed with a neck injury is about all I could stand. by day 3 I was fighting with the nurses about yanking out IVs and getting out of bed to use the REAL bathroom BY MYSELF.


19 posted on 11/22/2009 6:15:05 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Pray for Obama...Psalms 109:8)
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To: Repeal The 17th

yeah, i think it was called “The Obama Administration”


20 posted on 11/22/2009 6:18:07 PM PST by crescen7 (game on)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Don't know if that was a Twilight Zone or an Alfred Hitchcock, they guy let out a single tear and they realized he wasn't dead.
21 posted on 11/22/2009 6:18:25 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Repeal The 17th

That was death.

The twilight episode claimed even after death you retained consciousness, hearing, and pain sensing abilities for a certain period of time...a few days or so.

I think. It was a long time ago.


22 posted on 11/22/2009 6:18:34 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Pray for Obama...Psalms 109:8)
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To: The Phantom FReeper

I would love to ghjost write a book for one of these folks, to let the world know yet again the perspective of one locked in to inert but conscious.


23 posted on 11/22/2009 6:20:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yeah. And we are in it!!


24 posted on 11/22/2009 6:20:38 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: BallyBill

“...the guy let out a single tear and they realized he wasn’t dead...”
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That’s the one I’m thinking about.
The guy was paralyzed and everyone thought he was dead
but just as the autopsy was about to begin,
the attendant noticed a tear running down his cheek.


25 posted on 11/22/2009 6:24:52 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: EternalVigilance

How is he speaking now if he’s paralyzed?


26 posted on 11/22/2009 6:26:13 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: EternalVigilance

Under the Democrats’ Mengelecare, this guy would have had his plug pulled long, long ago.


27 posted on 11/22/2009 6:28:27 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Sherman Logan

OMG, you are not kidding...


28 posted on 11/22/2009 6:29:15 PM PST by never4get (We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid)
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To: wagglebee

Ping!


29 posted on 11/22/2009 6:30:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goseminoles

read the article......he has a special computer he taps out on to communicate....not sure how he taps though.


30 posted on 11/22/2009 6:30:58 PM PST by tioga
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To: EternalVigilance
One of the first things your taught in nursing school is the hearing is the last sense to go, so don't say anything when taking care of a comatose patient that could be detrimental to them....

Something for all to remember when visiting a patient in the hospital that may be in a coma...I took care of little 7 year old dying of brain cancer and as I talked to him while taking care of him, I swear he smiled at me...When I told his mother she said he smiles at her when she holds and rocks him...but he never came out of the coma. Died several weeks later......REMEMBER THIS WHEN VISITING PATIENTS....

31 posted on 11/22/2009 6:33:15 PM PST by goat granny
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To: thecabal
Should have starved him to death, it would have been the humane thing to do. /s

Actually, in this case, it would be what I would've wanted.

32 posted on 11/22/2009 6:34:13 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Sherman Logan

>Remarkable he retained his sanity. I don’t think I could.

I was thinking along the same line.


33 posted on 11/22/2009 6:34:16 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EternalVigilance
He had no way of letting experts, family or friends know he could hear every word they said.

The same is true for those coming out of anesthesia. Hearing returns FIRST!!!! Be very careful what you say around patients. They might be able to hear and understand.

34 posted on 11/22/2009 6:35:18 PM PST by Jemian
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To: never4get

Nope. I’m not sure I could last much more than a week under such circumstances.

As somebody said here, a truly nightmarish scenario.


35 posted on 11/22/2009 6:36:09 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jemian

I have heard of patients waking up under anesthesia but they couldn’t speak or move only hear and FEEL. How terrible to go through surgery being able to feel it but not respond.


36 posted on 11/22/2009 6:42:22 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Big Giant Head

Ping as requested. :)


37 posted on 11/22/2009 6:43:06 PM PST by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: wagglebee

Ping!


38 posted on 11/22/2009 6:45:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Obama makes Bush his blame czar. --Mark Steyn)
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To: EternalVigilance

Makes me think of the book, “Johnny Got His Gun.” The novel still haunts me.


39 posted on 11/22/2009 6:46:28 PM PST by peggybac
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To: EternalVigilance

a nightmare for certain.

I have asked the wife & all the kids to stare at eyes, ears, toes, everything and look for

... -— ...

If they can get that, I’m good to go (an old school “know code” ham)


40 posted on 11/22/2009 6:52:09 PM PST by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: thecabal

we were kind of debating this kind of thing in an online class


41 posted on 11/22/2009 6:54:03 PM PST by GeronL
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To: buccaneer81

We could do that now if you’d only hold still for it.


42 posted on 11/22/2009 7:02:59 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: goat granny

Thank you for that tip. I WILL remember.


43 posted on 11/22/2009 7:06:48 PM PST by Ditter
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To: peggybac

I was checking the thread for a mention of it “Johnny Got His Gun”, it was a movie too.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/


44 posted on 11/22/2009 7:07:39 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: muawiyah

At least Teri Schiavo was showing signs of life. She was most definitely murdered. But this poor guy, was it worth it under his circumstances?


45 posted on 11/22/2009 7:08:54 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: EternalVigilance
Read the article. I cannot believe the poor guy is still sane.......what do you do with your mind all that time.

And did no one notice the slept occasionally? Body pattern are quite different then, and he most certainly slept. Sound like crappy socialized medicine to me................

46 posted on 11/22/2009 7:09:13 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: EternalVigilance
A real Edgar Allen Poe tale.

Leni

47 posted on 11/22/2009 7:11:53 PM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: word_warrior_bob

Not to mention inspiration for the *best Metallica song evar*!


48 posted on 11/22/2009 7:18:26 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: EternalVigilance

Another candidate for retroactive abortion...


49 posted on 11/22/2009 7:21:23 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ASOC
Yep, I figure that even in extremis, I can always send

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50 posted on 11/22/2009 7:22:05 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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