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Global temperatures could rise 6C by end of century, say scientists (42.8 F)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/17/global-temperature-rise ^

Posted on 11/22/2009 5:58:18 PM PST by chessplayer

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To: chessplayer

6C? last i heard from those loonies was 3C.

i guess they decided to double down since they have been exposed


41 posted on 11/22/2009 6:15:10 PM PST by sten
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To: chessplayer

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/92510/archives/2009/11/22/climate-change-to-cause-more-kidney-stones-in-east-bay-scientists-say


42 posted on 11/22/2009 6:16:50 PM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: expatpat

Yep, these stories were probably in a tickler file waiting for the collossal conclave in Copenhagen.


43 posted on 11/22/2009 6:17:56 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: chessplayer

The timing of this story indicates one thing,

The author of it should be fired.


44 posted on 11/22/2009 6:19:47 PM PST by dila813
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To: GSP.FAN

Bwaaaahahahaha!!!

Good one! LOL


45 posted on 11/22/2009 6:21:53 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: chessplayer
"Global temperatures COULD rise"

Notice that little qualifying word, "could"?
I "could" win the lotto tomorrow.
I "could" vote for a liberal sometime in my lifetime.
Obama "could" become a pro free enterprise tax cutting conservative.

Lots of things "could" happen, y'know?

46 posted on 11/22/2009 6:21:54 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Da Mav
Good point to be remembered. The writers didn't know that so much AWG researcher fraud would be revealed.

At least most of them didn't know that ~ but one of them did ~ 'cause he released it.

Here's a thought. Researchers recently found that blue-green algae are actually 5% more efficient than previously thought. They constitute a serious carbon sink taking CO2 and turning it into more stable carbon compounds and releasing oxygen. They'd previously been credited with releasing half our atmospheres oxygen, but now their contribution has been re-estimated.

There's a lower bound for the CO2 content of the atmosphere when it comes to blue-green algae (aka cyanobacter) ~ something like 200 ppm or they just die off. I don't believe there's an upper bound, but as long as they get all the nutrients they need, and plenty of space to spread in the ocean surface, they should expand relative to any increase in the amount of CO2 and suck it in like the hungry little beggars they really are.

Given enough sunlight, enough cyanobacteria, enough infective viruses (which presently infect 10% of the cyanobacteria and thereby boost aggregate production of oxygen considerably), they should maintain a balance.

Currently the CO2 content of our atmosphere is being measured by satellite ~ haven't seen any reports on what it is, but I bet it's lower than what the AWG grant masters have been telling us. The cyanobacter would want it that way.

47 posted on 11/22/2009 6:23:59 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: IGOTMINE

“They’re just not going to stop with this BS, are they?”

Nope. Too much money and power involved.


48 posted on 11/22/2009 6:25:01 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: chessplayer
Global temperatures are on a path to rise by an average of 6C by the end of the century...

Gee, I trend out from the last ten years of global cooling and my data shows the Earth 6C cooler at the end of the century.

49 posted on 11/22/2009 6:25:13 PM PST by RJL
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To: chessplayer

“Comments are now closed for this entry.” LOL


50 posted on 11/22/2009 6:25:46 PM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: surfer
I am really ticked off. I bought into the CO2-global warming ‘theory’ in the early 1990’s. I have long since come to the conclusion that the concept has been hijacked by a bunch of arrogant opportunist mediocre scientists (not all of them, but enough of the usual names fall into this category). Instead of actually doing science they are making predictions based on an entirely incomplete understanding of what all the determinants of climate actually are. Climate will change on this planet. It has, and it will, but to have the arrogance to totally overreach your data to claim you have all the answers is not science at all. It's self-promoting politics.

It is a good thing to study the climate record and to try to find associations that help to understand how and why climate changed in the past, and how this information might help predict future climate shifts. It is quite another to make sensational statements like those that are the focus of this post. They are basing this on computer modeling. There are probably less variables in determining what the trends will be on Wall Street than there are in determining planetary climate, but these guys have it all figured out.

Federal grant money paid for the data collection, and therefore all the data should be available to all of us. Period. There are lots of very bright statisticians and mathematicians around. Let them validate the data analysis, independently. Let them tell us the predictive value and level of certainty that can be inferred from the mathematical models these guys are using.

51 posted on 11/22/2009 6:26:08 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Comments are now closed for this entry.”


52 posted on 11/22/2009 6:26:40 PM PST by 2111USMC
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53 posted on 11/22/2009 6:27:38 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Bobkk47

4th grade in old school....

Student: Can I go to the bathroom?

Teacher: Of course you can but you don’t have permission.

Student: May I go to the bathroom?

Teacher: Yes, you may.


54 posted on 11/22/2009 6:28:27 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: chessplayer
I'm guessing that the scientist quoted in the article, Corinne Le Quéré of the University of East Anglia didn't agree with this email which she was cc'd on, that states:

I would like to submit that the current climate models have such large errors in simulating the statistics of regional (climate) that we are not ready to provide policymakers a robust scientific basis for "action" at regional scale. I am not referring to mitigation, I am strictly referring to science based adaptation.

From: J Shukla
To: IPCC-Sec
Subject: Future of the IPCC:
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:46:33 -0500

55 posted on 11/22/2009 6:28:27 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Do I have to add a sarcasm tag?)
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To: 2111USMC

Natch.


56 posted on 11/22/2009 6:29:22 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RJL
Interesting trend line. It's consistent with the sort of temperature drop we would expect with the onset of the next major period of glaciation.

We've been through 20 cycles of this over 2 million years. Now that's a significant data base ~ not at all like the tree ring thing.

57 posted on 11/22/2009 6:29:22 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: chessplayer
Global temperatures could rise 6C by end of century, say scientists.


I suppose it's conceivable, given the most outlandish and least likely scenario possible, that they could.

But they won't.
58 posted on 11/22/2009 6:33:08 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: chessplayer

Ok... but WILL it? There is a BIG difference between “could” and “will”. It is a matter of confidence in your science. Beware the “Could Clown”...


59 posted on 11/22/2009 6:33:54 PM PST by coldoc
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To: chessplayer

Uh - that would be less than a 4 degree rise (not 42.8)


60 posted on 11/22/2009 6:34:16 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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