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Los Angeles Times : The world still can learn from Keynesian economics
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/23/2009 | Michael Hiltzik

Posted on 11/23/2009 6:28:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Reagan-like faith in efficient markets set the stage for the financial meltdown.

Great crises have a way of reminding us that acting as though we know perfectly well what the future holds almost always leads to disaster.

That's especially true in economics, which tends to underscore the murkiness of the real world by dealing out surprises one after another -- booms, crashes, bubbles, you name it.

It's fitting, therefore, that the recent economic meltdown has begun to restore that great apostle of uncertainty, John Maynard Keynes, to his rightful position of influence in economic thought.

"Keynes asked why financial markets are inherently unstable," Robert Skidelsky told me the other day. "His answer was that we don't know what the future will bring. He talked about the inherent precariousness of knowledge, that when we estimate the future we're only disguising our ignorance."

If that sounds obvious, keep in mind that the financial disaster of recent times was born in the hubris that the financial markets are nearly flawless machines for assessing risk and that government regulation would make them inefficient.

Skidelsky is a British economic historian whose three-volume biography of Keynes came out on these shores from 1986 to 2001. We had a chance to talk last week while he was visiting the U.S. to promote his latest work, "Keynes: The Return of the Master," published in September, which aims to spotlight the relevance of Keynesian economics for modern times.

He argues that it's impossible to miss the connections: For one thing, the banking and credit collapse of recent years stems from precisely the same economic mistakes Keynes saw in the 1920s.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economics; keynes; keynesian
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1 posted on 11/23/2009 6:28:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What we are seeing is KENYAN economics...


2 posted on 11/23/2009 6:29:52 AM PST by Crim
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To: SeekAndFind

Like the Global Warming scam, Keynesian economics(political theory) will never die.


3 posted on 11/23/2009 6:30:42 AM PST by deadrock (Liberty is a bitch that needs to be bedded on a mattress of cadavers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Reagan-like faith in efficient markets set the stage for the financial meltdown.

So blaming Bush isn't working, blaming Palin isn't working, so now they are blaming Reagan.

4 posted on 11/23/2009 6:30:58 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SeekAndFind
Los Angeles Times : The world still can learn from Keynesian economics

Of course it can -- it can learn what not to do.

5 posted on 11/23/2009 6:31:39 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this guy frigging KIDDING me? The entire reason for the meltdown as risk wasn’t borne by the ones making the transactions - that risk was held by the federal GOVERNMENT! If companies couldn’t shift risk to the feds (e.g. Fannie Mae), they would have to weigh their risks more appropriately and conservatively. Isn’t the failure of the stimulus the ultimate proof that Keynesian economics is bullcrap?


6 posted on 11/23/2009 6:32:06 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Reagan-like faith in efficient markets set the stage for the financial meltdown."

Are these people that stupid? Democrats meddling in the lending standards for mortgages created the meltdown.

7 posted on 11/23/2009 6:32:18 AM PST by avacado
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To: SeekAndFind

“Reagan-like faith in efficient markets set the stage for the financial meltdown.”

This is a basic lie at so many levels there is no reason to read further or, read any part of the Left Angeles Times.


8 posted on 11/23/2009 6:32:22 AM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Crim

Here's an photo from that Kenyan economics textbook...

9 posted on 11/23/2009 6:32:23 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: SeekAndFind
"KENYAN economics..."

How Brilliant. 750 people in Washington spending every last cent of disposable income of over 300 million people. How could it be so wrong? /sarcasmoff.

10 posted on 11/23/2009 6:34:47 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: SeekAndFind
The world can still learn from Keynesian economics

Sure, in the same sense we can learn from Adm. Villeneuve's tactics at Trafalgar in 1805.

11 posted on 11/23/2009 6:35:00 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

oops, forgot to ping you


12 posted on 11/23/2009 6:36:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Someone needs to take Hiltzik's nose like a puppy and rub his nose in this:

The Coming Deficit Disaster, The Wall Street Journal, November 20, 2009.

13 posted on 11/23/2009 6:40:52 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s no such thing as free markets in the US. In recent decades, government has extended its tentacles into every crevice of the American economy.

So, basically, the author is arguing that the answer to a disaster that was caused by government interventionism is more government interventionism.


14 posted on 11/23/2009 6:42:02 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Crim

Beat me to it.


15 posted on 11/23/2009 6:43:13 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: NativeNewYorker

I believe I saw Obama’s family in that photo.


16 posted on 11/23/2009 6:43:54 AM PST by Mengerian
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Basically it's the "Al's Glass" Economy.

17 posted on 11/23/2009 6:45:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind
(From the unbrokenwindow.com)

1. Enlightened consumer groups and citizens point to a problem that needs correcting.
2. These folks often point to free trade or market capitalism as the reason for the problem.
3. Regulation is passed in order to make “capitalism work for everybody”.
4. The regulation produces impacts that the regulators never saw coming – screwing consumers and small businesses that was never the intention of the regulation.
5. The regulations themselves are often inspired by, written, and welcomed by, the major companies being regulated!
6. The regulations turn out to make the companies being regulated MORE profitable and increase their market power. See the tobacco settlement, see the myriad auto safety regulations, see the health insurance industry, see the toy industry, see the Clean Air Act, etc.
7. Critics call this capitalism again.
8. Enlightened regulators try to improve regulations, carve out exemptions, and undo the poor consequences from the first round of regulation.
9. Return to step 2.

18 posted on 11/23/2009 6:46:52 AM PST by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: SeekAndFind
(From the unbrokenwindow.com)

1. Enlightened consumer groups and citizens point to a problem that needs correcting.
2. These folks often point to free trade or market capitalism as the reason for the problem.
3. Regulation is passed in order to make “capitalism work for everybody”.
4. The regulation produces impacts that the regulators never saw coming – screwing consumers and small businesses that was never the intention of the regulation.
5. The regulations themselves are often inspired by, written, and welcomed by, the major companies being regulated!
6. The regulations turn out to make the companies being regulated MORE profitable and increase their market power. See the tobacco settlement, see the myriad auto safety regulations, see the health insurance industry, see the toy industry, see the Clean Air Act, etc.
7. Critics call this capitalism again.
8. Enlightened regulators try to improve regulations, carve out exemptions, and undo the poor consequences from the first round of regulation.
9. Return to step 2.

19 posted on 11/23/2009 6:46:56 AM PST by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Garbage on the ground. Garbage on the roof! Garbage everywhere around this little farmer’s market. I wonder what that smells like.

On second thought — I don’t want to know.


20 posted on 11/23/2009 6:47:23 AM PST by BenLurkin
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