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Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising” AGW circular firing squad!
herald sun ^ | 11/24/2009 | andrew bolt

Posted on 11/24/2009 6:16:56 AM PST by milwguy

Even George Monbiot, one of the fiercest media propagandists of the warming faith, admits he should have been more sceptical and says the science now needs to be rechecked:

It’s no use pretending that this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging. I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I’m dismayed and deeply shaken by them.

Yes, the messages were obtained illegally. Yes, all of us say things in emails that would be excruciating if made public. Yes, some of the comments have been taken out of context. But there are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad. There appears to be evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information request. Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I believe that the head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; climategate; globalwarming
The 'warmists' are turning on each other. Global warming may have stopped in recent years, but these 'scientists' are really starting to feel the heat! As such, it is fun to sit back and watch these smug morons engage in destroying each other. Looks like Phil Jones will be the first to go, hopefully followed very shortly by Michael Mann, and then James Hansen.

Have not seen any comments from our Bobel Prize winner Al Gore? Anybody seen poor Al?

1 posted on 11/24/2009 6:16:57 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy; Desdemona; Fractal Trader; grey_whiskers; markomalley; scripter; Defendingliberty; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 11/24/2009 6:20:13 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: milwguy
Even George Monbiot, one of the fiercest media propagandists of the warming faith, admits he should have been more sceptical and says the science now needs to be rechecked:

It's just too bad he didn't see this video documentary on "Anthropogenic Global Warming" before now... LOL...


It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite another to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply one video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the one...


The following is an excellent video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link. Information about BitTorrent protocol and BitTorrent clients and their comparison at these three links (in this sentence). Some additional BitTorrent information here and here.

Download it here...
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
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It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
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Buy it on DVD here...
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At WAGtv (a UK shop), but don't know about shipping. The price is reasonable, though.
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[And..., some information from WAGtv about this item.]


Also, in split parts on YouTube...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rGpDMN8lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 9)
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The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9benJh3Lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Credits (Part 9 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1ifP-ri58

3 posted on 11/24/2009 6:24:55 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: milwguy

None of this really matters. Facts will not change the minds of those seeking to impose big government on us.


4 posted on 11/24/2009 6:25:05 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: milwguy

makes me think of “moonbat”


5 posted on 11/24/2009 6:26:55 AM PST by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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What if the GOP presidential candidate in 2012 says,”..not one dime more for climate research.”


6 posted on 11/24/2009 6:37:34 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Daveinyork

But climate fraud will change the minds of the people. Knowing you are being scammed has bad effects on people, especially when the swindle involves taking their money.


7 posted on 11/24/2009 6:37:34 AM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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To: milwguy
All the groupies who are not busy running for cover will bail in order to salvage what is left of their credibility. No surprise they will turn on the arrogant fools who screwed the pooch in writing.
8 posted on 11/24/2009 6:38:36 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Daveinyork
I think you are wrong. This matters a great deal. Here's why: most congress-critters basically don't care about all this, and they read the polls carefully enough to know that the public hardly believed AGW even before this sh*t hit the fan. Don't be fooled into thinking that every 'rat is in bed with Obama's bullshit ideology. They do what they have to do politically to survive.

As the word on this gets out, the politics will shift and, just like Moonbat above, they will do what they have to do to keep their credibility with the voters. I would say that because of this revelation, Crap and Tax is totally dead now, and the whole socialist greenie AGW enterprise set back. That matters.

9 posted on 11/24/2009 6:47:12 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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“excruciating emails” ?

I don't know what she is talking about, but I bow want to see this nutballs emails.

10 posted on 11/24/2009 6:52:55 AM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: milwguy
Yes, the messages were obtained illegally.

Yep, just like most of the research money that these scam artists having been living off of for the past decade or so.

11 posted on 11/24/2009 7:01:44 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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12 posted on 11/24/2009 7:03:34 AM PST by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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This “Moonbat” fellow needs to apologize to science & the scientific method, resign immediately and become a street person begging for scraps of food and money. Anything less is a travesty.


13 posted on 11/24/2009 7:13:43 AM PST by hal ogen
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To: hinckley buzzard

the just sick the unaccountable bureaucrats on us to do it for them. Then the rats can pretend to have nothing to do with it, and the pubbies haven’t the guts to stop them.


14 posted on 11/24/2009 7:20:52 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: milwguy
The debate is now over.

GLOBAL WARMING IS A FRAUD.

15 posted on 11/24/2009 7:31:19 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: GovernmentShrinker; milwguy
Yes, the messages were obtained illegally.

There is no evidence the messages were obtained illegally. The FOIA file was likely assembled by CRU internally and inadvertently left on an open ftp site when it couldn't be emailed as an attachment. CRU was already revealed as careless in their alleged AGW research and data archiving. Alternatively, an FOIA-protected whistle blower may have released the file. Illegal is not a fact.

16 posted on 11/24/2009 8:29:15 AM PST by ricks_place
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