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Discrimination Against Intelligent Design Film Cited in California Science Center Lawsuit
Evolution News & Views ^ | November 25, 2009 | Casey Luskin

Posted on 11/25/2009 10:15:23 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: count-your-change
"You agree the Center shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against a film just because they may not like its viewpoint, don't you?"

Yes, but......I also agree that public funds and resources should remain completely secular. I don't want my taxes supporting anybodies religion, not even my own. Don't you agree the government would do worse job with religion than it would do with health-care?

21 posted on 11/25/2009 2:20:37 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts

In addition to the indisputable militant atheism, a part of the problem is the Young Earth creationism (and associated ‘creation science’ charlatanry), which gives all other branches of creationism a bad name.


22 posted on 11/25/2009 2:39:57 PM PST by Behemoth the Cat
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To: Natural Law
What was at question here was facilities that were rented out to many different groups just as community buildings and school auditoriums are or county fair grounds are.

No one is suggesting even remotely that renting an Imax theater to someone implies support of the group so the question of government involvement with religion was never an issue. It was the purported association of the Smithsonian and a certain viewpoint in someones mind and the honoring of a valid contract that was the issue at hand.

I have as much legal right to use the public, paid for by taxes, street for a religious or other opinion parade as the most irreligious, secular group in the world even if the city doesn't like my viewpoint and they are bound to honor a contract with me even if a museum doesn't like it.

The Center and it's actions were wrong.

23 posted on 11/25/2009 2:57:15 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
"The Center and it's actions were wrong."

The courts will decide that. Until then it isn't news.

24 posted on 11/25/2009 3:05:37 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Happily you are not the arbiter of what is news and what is not news. Nor of what constitutes conversion of public resources to religious purposes as the center tried to be.

Had the local Catholic Church been told they couldn't rent a theater available to all others, you would be crying discrimination and intolerance and the sanctity of contracts, wouldn't you?
And all those hated creationists would argue they had as much right as anyone.

25 posted on 11/25/2009 3:15:20 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
"Happily you are not the arbiter of what is news and what is not news."

And I you.

26 posted on 11/25/2009 4:06:28 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts

Another repost of stuff you posted before. It was several weeks ago. This is a frivolous lawsuit because the religious group violated the contract.


27 posted on 11/25/2009 5:42:40 PM PST by Wacka
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To: Natural Law

Had the local Catholic Church been told they couldn’t rent a theater available to all others, you would be crying discrimination and intolerance and the sanctity of contracts, wouldn’t you?


28 posted on 11/25/2009 6:13:18 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Natural Law
As a Christian I am alarmed by any attempt by any faith, including my own, to attempt to convert public resources to the perpetuation of anything remotely theological.

As a Christian, are you alarmed by the attempt to convert public resources to the perpetuation of things clearly anti-theological?

29 posted on 11/25/2009 6:18:55 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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"As a Christian, are you alarmed by the attempt to convert public resources to the perpetuation of things clearly anti-theological?"

You clearly know as little about law as you do science and theology.

30 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:06 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

I don’t claim to be an expert at all three, as you appear to be doing. I asked a question, which you are dodging.


31 posted on 11/25/2009 6:39:48 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Natural Law

Allow me to ask it a different way, as to leave religion out of it.

“As an American, are you alarmed by the attempt to convert public resources to the perpetuation of things clearly anti-American?”


32 posted on 11/25/2009 6:42:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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It’s not just your question as you can see from #25 and 28.


33 posted on 11/25/2009 6:47:31 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Natural Law
there would be no prohibition of utilizing my tax dollars to promote Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Wiccan, Mormon, Satanic, or Pagan theology.

And you are completely sure that this is not already the case?

34 posted on 11/25/2009 6:50:45 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: count-your-change; Natural Law

I noticed.
I also noticed that we are not getting any direct answers, yet.
I will be patient. Perhaps Mr. Law will respond.


35 posted on 11/25/2009 6:54:33 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: count-your-change

BTW, I do believe that any theatre has the right to refuse to screen any selection of movie.

However, backing down after entering a contract to do so, I believe is a violation of law.


36 posted on 11/25/2009 6:57:37 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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Tax supported groups are in a different situation than a private owner, I think. The contract was agreed to and should have been honored but it will be interesting to see the follow up.
37 posted on 11/25/2009 7:09:43 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Moving his ox so it won’t get gored.


38 posted on 11/25/2009 7:12:54 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Tax supported groups are in a different situation than a private owner

I would agree. However, they still violated a contract, did they not? Why did they agree to show it in the first place?

39 posted on 11/25/2009 7:15:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Natural Law
The courts will decide that. Until then it isn't news.

So, if your neighbor rapes and murders a little girl, until he gets convicted, it isn't news?

40 posted on 11/25/2009 7:17:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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