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Discrimination Against Intelligent Design Film Cited in California Science Center Lawsuit
Evolution News & Views ^ | November 25, 2009 | Casey Luskin

Posted on 11/25/2009 10:15:23 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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1 posted on 11/25/2009 10:15:25 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

For the record, this post is being posted in News/Activism by the express permission of Jim Robinson, founder and owner of Free Republic:

“Debate on church doctrine and or threads on specific religious matters may be best posted in the religion forum, but the defense of religious freedom, especially against those who wish to deprive us of same belongs front and center on FR.

They banned God and prayer and creationism from public schools and public places, but I’ll be damned if they’re gonna ban Him or it from FR!”

—Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2203455/posts?page=78#78


2 posted on 11/25/2009 10:16:21 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

The TRUTH scares them.

Darwin and evolution are a farce. The problem is their “faith” in them has become a “religion”. Evolution and Darwin define life down. It is one of the reasons life is viewed as cheap. Human life is viewed as road kill and no big deal.


3 posted on 11/25/2009 10:18:10 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

The TRUTH does more than scare, it offends them. It has the audacity to tell them they are wrong. Oh the huge manatee.


4 posted on 11/25/2009 10:19:31 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Don't think for a minute that the Evo scientists aren't doing the same thing that the Eco scientists got caught doing recently.
5 posted on 11/25/2009 10:20:33 AM PST by Between the Lines (For their sins of 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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To: GodGunsGuts

As with global warming, so with evolution. Science will be a lot better off when it’s back in the hands of scientists, instead of being in the hands of ideo-political hacks who also happen to have science degrees.


6 posted on 11/25/2009 10:26:29 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (There are only two REAL conservatives in America - myself, and my chosen Presidential candidate)
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To: RoadGumby

The TRUTH does more than scare, it offends them. It has the audacity to tell them they are wrong. Oh the huge manatee.

Prov.8:13

[13] The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Prov.11:2

[2] When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

Prov.16:18

[18] Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

The Bible sure knows the human nature of the evil ones.


7 posted on 11/25/2009 10:26:57 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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How dare you make such a connection! Your reply should be deleted as not being in the public's interest. Haven't you heard, our scientists have declared the debate over. Get with the program, or else!
8 posted on 11/25/2009 10:30:57 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Amen to that!!!


9 posted on 11/25/2009 10:31:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

PS Are you saying that the notion that scientists are impartial and apolitical is a farce? Are you saying that it is time for the American people to start questioning their motives, as well as their science? Have you no descency, sir!


10 posted on 11/25/2009 10:33:33 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: nmh

And scare them it should!


11 posted on 11/25/2009 10:39:59 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Sadly it takes a lawsuit to force the Cal. Science Center to honor a contract. But if that's what it takes to stop the bullying of the Darwinists at the Mythsonian.
12 posted on 11/25/2009 11:13:54 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Mythsonian...I can’t say it has a nice ring to it, but it certainly has the ring of the cold, hard truth.


14 posted on 11/25/2009 11:31:05 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
"For the record, this post is being posted in News/Activism by the express permission of Jim Robinson..."

All, do not assume this is legitimate news or that Jim Robinson endorses the content. This is NOT about the defense of religious freedom, it is about the doctrine of certain churches, which is outside the purview of JR's statement.

(note: no one should be surprised that Less (GGG) has taken the same liberties with the statements and positions of FR's founder as he has with both Scripture and science.)

15 posted on 11/25/2009 12:58:07 PM PST by Natural Law
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Sadly it takes a lawsuit to force the Cal. Science Center to honor a contract. But if that's what it takes to stop the bullying of the Darwinists at the Mythsonian.

It's the only thing they understand.

16 posted on 11/25/2009 1:03:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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All, do not assume this is legitimate news or that Jim Robinson endorses the content.

Wow. You know what JR is thinking and are speaking for him?

On whose authority? Did he appoint you to act as his spokesperson? Or are you just reading his mind and letting us know what he's transmitting to you?

Got any links to back that up?

tell us, why isn't news of a lawsuit legitimate news?

Should we then consider all news of lawsuits not legitimate news?

17 posted on 11/25/2009 1:07:29 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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"Wow. You know what JR is thinking and are speaking for him?"

I actually read what JR posted. The meaning is quite clear. If you want to discuss issues of faith, creation, and those dirty evos then the religion forum is for you. If you want to discuss assaults on religious freedom then news and activism is the right place.

Who appointed you anything either?

18 posted on 11/25/2009 1:34:33 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: metmom; GodGunsGuts
"why isn't news of a lawsuit legitimate news?"

Because suits of this nature are frivilous.

"On March 23, 2009, the Supreme Court denied certiorari without comment to Caldwell v. Caldwell, which challenged the constitutionality of the Understanding Evolution website — a joint project of the University of California Museum of Paleontology and the National Center for Science Education. The San Francisco Chronicle (March 23, 2009) reports, “One page on Cal’s 840-page ‘Understanding Evolution’ web site says Darwinism can be compatible with religion. The four-year-old suit by Jeanne Caldwell said the government-funded web site contradicts her religious belief about the incompatibility of religion and Darwinism and amounts to a state position on religious doctrine that violates the Constitutional separation of church and state.” Caldwell filed suit in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in 2005. But her suit was dismissed in 2006 because she failed to allege that she had federal taxpayer standing, failed to sufficiently allege state taxpayer standing, and failed to establish that she suffered a concrete “injury in fact.” When she appealed the decision, the appellate court’s decision concluded, “Accordingly, we believe there is too slight a connection between Caldwell’s generalized grievance, and the government conduct about which she complains, to sustain her standing to proceed.” Reacting to the Supreme Court’s decision not to hear the case, a lawyer for the University of California told the Chronicle, “We believe the lower court rulings were correct, and we’re glad this ends the matter.”"

As a Christian I am alarmed by any attempt by any faith, including my own, to attempt to convert public resources to the perpetuation of anything remotely theological. Once precedent is set, there would be no prohibition of utilizing my tax dollars to promote Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Wiccan, Mormon, Satanic, or Pagan theology.

19 posted on 11/25/2009 1:46:53 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Front and center! This is good news, excellent news in fact.
We all should be glad that a tax supported entity is being challenged for it's failure to honor a contract and its discrimination against a particular viewpoint.

You agree the Center shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against a film just because they may not like its viewpoint, don't you?

20 posted on 11/25/2009 1:59:02 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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