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Rudy Guiliani (unannounced) 53%, Kirsten Gillibrand 40% NY Senate Race
Rasmussen Reports ^

Posted on 11/25/2009 11:44:24 AM PST by jsdjason

Pataki would actually be behind 45-42 if he ran. It's pretty clear to me who should run, and that's Rudy. I'm willing to look past the issues like abortion where he is less than conservative if it means a sure win over Gillibrand. I'm pretty sure Pataki isn't so conservative either, so really there's not much of a choice.

Don't they have to announce pretty soon whether they are running? In Texas the deadline to get on the primary ballot is January 4th.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: frhatesrudy; gillibrand; giuliani; ny2010; nygop; rino; rudy; rudy2010; vanity

1 posted on 11/25/2009 11:44:25 AM PST by jsdjason
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To: jsdjason
I would support Rudy for Senate only if he promised to STAY THERE and go no farther.
2 posted on 11/25/2009 11:46:28 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: jsdjason

Hows Rudy on RKBA? As I recall, not very much better than
Schumer. A sure vote for another AWB we don’t need.


3 posted on 11/25/2009 11:47:33 AM PST by rahbert (If not by the power of persuasion, then by the persuasion of power - Andy Stein)
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To: rahbert

Look at it this way, you’d have a sure vote for gun bans with Gillibrand who even now is sponsoring new gun control measures. At least with Rudy we might have a little leverage to change his vote on the few areas he needs improving on. We’d have none with that phony Gillibrand. I have a feeling his gun position was one taken as mayor of New York, one he’d not feel the need as Senator of the whole state to repeat, esp. with upstate being more conservative than NYC.


4 posted on 11/25/2009 11:52:02 AM PST by MissesBush
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To: rahbert

Given the choice between Rudy and Gillibrand? Definitely Rudy. If NY can find a conservative that could beat out Rudy and have a chance at beating Gillibrand then fine, but I’d like to see the poll numbers on “Conservative Candidate X vs. Gillibrand.” If it’s pretty clear that only Rudy has a chance then I think we’d be better off supporting him. Is there a conservative running in the primary?


5 posted on 11/25/2009 11:52:02 AM PST by jsdjason
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To: jsdjason

I thought he did announce that he was running on Hannity’s radio program. He announced he was running for something.


6 posted on 11/25/2009 11:55:58 AM PST by imskylark
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To: jsdjason

I think the only conservatives you will find in NY are here on FR.


7 posted on 11/25/2009 11:56:12 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Happy 234th birthday United States Marine Corps!)
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To: jsdjason

For a liberal state like NY, Rudy would be perfect. I wouldn’t want him as President (well, I would, compared to Obama), but for NY he is right.


8 posted on 11/25/2009 11:57:16 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: jsdjason

The Dims are going to lose the Senate along with the House in 2010.


9 posted on 11/25/2009 12:00:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: SolidWood

That’s what I’m thinking. I don’t want to take the Newt approach to it though. By all means lets run a conservative in the primaries and see what the voters think. I’m betting they pick Rudy. Rudy is surely the most beloved Republican in NY, and we could do a lot worse than him. I’d take Rudy over Pataki.


10 posted on 11/25/2009 12:05:25 PM PST by jsdjason
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To: SolidWood

NY is gone as far as ever electing a conservative. So, I think Rudy is a great choice. He’s ok on many things. Even if he is pro-choice. He’s great on other issues. Yes, I thought he did announce he was running for the Senate.


11 posted on 11/25/2009 12:06:53 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: jsdjason

NICE!!!


12 posted on 11/25/2009 12:11:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: jsdjason

NICE!!!


13 posted on 11/25/2009 12:11:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: jsdjason

NICE!!!


14 posted on 11/25/2009 12:11:45 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: MissesBush
his gun position was one taken as mayor of New York

You are exactly right!
15 posted on 11/25/2009 12:12:13 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: imskylark

Originally, he mentioned his thoughts about running for governor. But he recently announced his run for the Senate against Gillibrand.


16 posted on 11/25/2009 12:15:28 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Red Steel

From your lips to God’s ears.......


17 posted on 11/25/2009 12:16:36 PM PST by AdvisorB (Obamatude could be defined by Blago as something tangible, but not quite as tangible as JJJ's offer.)
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To: jsdjason
I’d take Rudy over Pataki.

I agree! Wish he would have opted for the governor run - and trash that loser Cuomo w/his hopes as gov. The Kennedy mentality at work - he thinks he's entitled to be governor because his loser dad was.
18 posted on 11/25/2009 12:20:01 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Red Steel

The senate Dems losers for 2010, and I’m sure there are others I have left off the list that are vulnerable to defeat:

Gillibrand NY
Bennet CO
Reid NV
Boxer CA
Dodd Con
Kaufman DE
Hagen NC

McCain is in trouble too.


19 posted on 11/25/2009 12:23:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Dorgan ND


20 posted on 11/25/2009 12:25:00 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: jsdjason

Another RINO in the senate. Well hooorrraaaayyyyyy! Isn’t THAT just the greatest news of the friggin’ day! Now maybe we can work on bringing back Cris Shays. And if we republicans are really, really good, perhaps we can talk Specter into rejoining the party.


21 posted on 11/25/2009 12:25:51 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Red Steel

Hagen is not up in NC in 2010, the Republican Sen. Burr is.

What about Cong. Peter King? Isn’t he also running for the US Senate in NY.

Oh, yes un you vulnerable list add:
Dorgan ND
Feingold WI


22 posted on 11/25/2009 12:30:50 PM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Red Steel

Oh I forgot the most vulnerable one of all:

Lincoln AR


23 posted on 11/25/2009 12:34:07 PM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: jsdjason
Gillibrand says openly that the purpose of cap and trade is to enrich Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan Chase, and that she agrees with this agenda. New York voters need to know this.


24 posted on 11/25/2009 12:37:23 PM PST by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Carry_Okie
I would support Rudy for Senate only if he promised to STAY THERE and go no farther.

I dont see how he can go any farther. I used to see him as viable at the national level but he has too many enemies ... in the ratmedia and elsewhere.

Who knows what would happen in the Senate race once the NY Slimes assigned 50 people to get dirt on him. Still I think he should run against Gillebrand.

25 posted on 11/25/2009 12:38:41 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: jsdjason

While Rudy is a social RINO and anti-gun, he has shown himself to be a loyal supporter and defender of more conservative Republicans, and I think he could be counted on to hold the party line on nearly every key vote in the Senate.

Also, while he doesn’t agree with the GOP on some key issues, I’ve never heard him talk about moving the party to the left to expand it. He seems to understand that he is the outsider who needs to try to fit in, rather than trying to change the party to suit his own beliefs.

As a New Yorker, I’d rather send a true conservative to the Senate, but Rudy might be the best we can do, and would be a huge upgrade over any Democrat.


26 posted on 11/25/2009 1:11:29 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: jsdjason

I would be happier if Rudy were running for governor. New York needs a political enema badly, and he is the only one with the courage and expertise to wield the bag and nozzle thoroughly.


27 posted on 11/25/2009 1:21:53 PM PST by Publius (Do you want the people who run Amtrak to take out your appendix?)
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To: jsdjason
NO MORE RINO'S! OFF WITH RUDY'S HEAD!

Anyway, I'm sure Rudy has said something unkind about Sarah sometime in the past so all the more reason to;

OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

28 posted on 11/25/2009 1:37:55 PM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at its root.")
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To: jsdjason

Pataki is not a bad guy. I like Rudy too. They are RINOish but they are not McCain or Graham-nesty or Newt or Kyl.


29 posted on 11/25/2009 1:54:55 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: jsdjason

I had to look at the link to see if it was you or Rasmussen who mis-spelled the Governor’s last name. It was you.

Here is the correct spelling: GIULIANI.

And if you’re linking a story, then use their text. Otherwise, you have created a vanity.


30 posted on 11/25/2009 2:48:49 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us. Pray for America.)
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To: jsdjason

Flipping New York and Delaware to likely GOP pickups is a good thing. How is Mikee doing building up the party, raising money and recruiting candidates in Arkansas?


31 posted on 11/25/2009 3:09:52 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: La Enchiladita

I assumed you could get the gist of the article by the title of the post. I didn’t realize there was such technical rules. Could you please point me to the thread posting rulebook so that I may study them in depth? Sorry I misspelled Giuliani. My day is ruined now. Any other grammatical errors?


32 posted on 11/25/2009 3:12:43 PM PST by jsdjason
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To: Red Steel

Burr is running in NC and although originally thought vulnerable this should be much easier for him now. Lincoln in Arkansas would be nice to replace, and actually getting more conservative senators from Florida, New Hampshire, Texas and Arizona would be good.


33 posted on 11/25/2009 3:13:12 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

I forgot about Dorgan. Really, he should be vulnerable given what is going on in DC.


34 posted on 11/25/2009 3:14:16 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: jsdjason

Oh I see a grammatical error already. Insert “were” for “was.” Also I should probably hyphenate thread-posting.


35 posted on 11/25/2009 3:14:18 PM PST by jsdjason
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To: Carry_Okie
I would support Rudy for Senate only if he promised to STAY THERE and go no farther.

AG in a Palin administration would be good.

36 posted on 11/25/2009 3:17:15 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: MSF BU

The people in Arkansas are furious at Blanche Lincoln. She will be replaced.


37 posted on 11/25/2009 3:21:17 PM PST by kempo
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To: Red Steel

Senate’s a long shot. If Rudy runs, he takes Gildies seat. Pubbies also have very good shots in NV, CT, PA, DE. that’d be 5 pick ups.


38 posted on 11/25/2009 7:06:27 PM PST by wny
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To: Carry_Okie

Might as all hand the seat to the DEMs then if that’s how conservatives feel.


39 posted on 11/25/2009 7:40:11 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Carry_Okie

Might as well hand the seat to the DEMs then if that’s how conservatives feel.


40 posted on 11/25/2009 7:40:21 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: jsdjason

NY doesn’t hold its primaries till September, tho there’s an effort to move them up, but only to August.


41 posted on 11/25/2009 7:45:56 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Carry_Okie

“I would support Rudy for Senate only if he promised to STAY THERE and go no farther.”

That won’t happen.

NY needs primaries so we get a conservative running against the liberal, not another liberal.

I think the time is ripe for conservatives winning elections even in NYS.


42 posted on 11/25/2009 8:52:08 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: jsdjason

This is an improvement. Will any conservatives join the fray?


43 posted on 11/26/2009 6:43:36 AM PST by stevem
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Rudy might be the best we can do, and would be a huge upgrade over any Democrat.

Bottom line. Rudy would be a definite gain. The purists around here need to recall the dictum of Ronaldus Maximus that if someone votes with you most of the time, he is your ally not your enemy.

44 posted on 11/26/2009 7:18:47 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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