Posted on 11/25/2009 7:56:35 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
They are organized as a nonprofit scientific organization. You don't know if they get any tax payer funds do you?
==They are organized as a nonprofit scientific organization. You don’t know if they get any tax payer funds do you?
According to my sources, the U.S. Space & Rocket Center was the brainchild of a creation scientist, Dr. Werner von Braun, and is also listed as NASA’s “first visitor center.” The land was provided by the US Govornment, and the construction was paid for by Alabama taxpayers. And given the nature of these types of institutions, I am quite confident that the USSRC continues to be subsidized to one extent or another by both US and Alabama taxpayers.
Then it should be easy for you to explain why we find no trilobites above the Permian strata, and why we find no dinosaurs above the cretaceous strata, or no mammals in the Cambrian strata?
When I see complaints about films, etc., being rejected, I always ask, do they have the right to reject a proposal by scientologists? If so, then it’s ok. If you’re arguing that creationism should be shown, but would object to Buddhism or scientology being shown, then one’s argument falls flat. Where do you stand on Scientology/Buddhism/Native American positions also having eqaul access to the facilities in question?
Oh, and everyone have a GREAT Thanksgiving.
Thank you for sharing your insights and testimony, dear brother in Christ!
Ping me if you get an answer to that question - or one that makes some sense anyway. I keep hearing about all the great scientific work being done by creationists but all I ever see are ill-informed or mendacious commentaries on what real scientists are doing. Cheers.
Just like when I post the 14 points all I get is misdirection and avoidance but no answers.
But when the science does not support you “hypothesis” that is all that you have
Are you saying what Tennessee was doing was unconstitutional? Are you saying that there is a "separation of Church and State" in the Constitution? You don't think that Evo's are a big part of the ACLU? I really want to hear you answer on all 3 of these questions, you cannot be that naive.
I’m saying the constant refrain of “Well, they started it!” rings hollow.
Fine, I'm not saying either "we started it" or "they started it;" I'm saying states have the rights in teaching children and the SCOTUS had no right to obstruct teaching in the way they did. Though I do disagree with the Butler act; states still have rights, agreed?
States do have rights. In the case of the Butler Act, the question is whether specifying that only the literal account of Creation according to the Book of Genesis can be taught amounts to an official "establishment of religion", and whether that applies to the States under the incorportation clause of the 14th Amendment.
So you’re a believer in the "separation of Church and State," even though it is not in the Constitution?
I'm a believer in honest debate tactics. "Establishment of religion" is in the Constitution.
When not attacking the scientific messenger the tactic taken by Less (GodlessGunlessGunless and his ilk) is to post or quote from an article that disassembles a legitimate scientific paper with the following methodology:
- Cite a phrase or nugget out of context,
- Follow it with a disingenuous summarization preceded by "the data suggest" or "the evidence hints"
- Further mischaracterize the original cited nugget with a classical "if" statement
- Conclude that the article actually supports YEC by a nonsequitur "then" conclusion.
Fantastic; the you should have no problem with government schools including the pro and con about Evolution, correct?
As long as the "pro and con" are based on objective, scientifically supportable arguments, that is correct.
Do you have a problem with the Hindu, Mayan, Inca, Aztec, Druid, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Pagan, and Animist versions of creation being taught as well and being given equal merit with science and the Judeo-Christian version?
Not at all, let all religions stand on there own in the debate. Do you agree with this?
Not at all, let all religions stand on there own in the debate. Do you agree with this?
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