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Dubai Crisis Threatens Airbus and Boeing, Too
BusinessWeek ^ | November 27, 2009 | Carol Matlack

Posted on 11/28/2009 6:37:00 AM PST by ricks_place

As if Airbus and Boeing didn’t have enough to worry about already, the looming debt crisis in Dubai has cast a shadow over a backlog of aircraft orders, worth more than $60 billion, from Dubai, Inc.

The biggest – but by no means the only – example is Emirates, Dubai’s government-controlled carrier. It has more than $30 billion worth of planes on order from Airbus, including 53 of the double-decker A380, for which Emirates is by far the largest customer. Emirates also has placed 70 orders for Airbus’s forthcoming A350 widebody. And Airbus has outstanding orders from state-controlled leasing outfit DAE Capital totaling about $12.6 billion.

No surprise, then, that shares in Airbus parent European Aeronautics Defence & Space Co. fell more than 3% on Nov. 26 when the Dubai government asked to postpone debt repayments.

Boeing is considerably less-exposed than Airbus to potential turmoil in Dubai, but it still has plenty at stake. Emirates has about $4 billion worth of Boeing 777s on order, while DAE Capital and low-cost carrier Flydubai have a combined $16 billion on order from Boeing. As U.S. markets reopened on Nov. 27 after Thanksgiving, Boeing shares were down 1.2%

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airbus; boeing; dubai
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Many fewer A380's in the sky. Euros will need more launch aid!
1 posted on 11/28/2009 6:37:02 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: newgeezer

ping


2 posted on 11/28/2009 6:50:00 AM PST by DungeonMaster (camel, eye of a needle; rich man, heaven)
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To: DungeonMaster

53 A380’s ?


3 posted on 11/28/2009 6:52:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: ricks_place

Is Airbus too big to fail?


4 posted on 11/28/2009 6:57:46 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Just a guess but I would think that the biggest news here is that there will be a lot more job losses in the aircraft industry.

Boeing probably has enough cash to weather this, but losing this much business has to result in layoffs.


5 posted on 11/28/2009 6:57:50 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
53 A380’s ?

I'm wondering of Dubie was the A380 "launch order". If so it's really sweet to a Boeing man to see that order cancelled!

6 posted on 11/28/2009 6:59:17 AM PST by DungeonMaster (camel, eye of a needle; rich man, heaven)
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To: DungeonMaster

No, I think SQ (Singapore Airlines) was the 380 launch customer.


7 posted on 11/28/2009 7:05:41 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
No, I think SQ (Singapore Airlines) was the 380 launch customer.

That DOES ring a bell now that you say it. I bet it was not as big an order as Dubie'sez.

8 posted on 11/28/2009 7:09:32 AM PST by DungeonMaster (camel, eye of a needle; rich man, heaven)
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Singapore Airlines was indeed the launch customer. Landing at Changi recently, it was very strange to see seven A380s lined up in a row at the gates.
9 posted on 11/28/2009 7:10:20 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: DungeonMaster

53 A380s @ 750 passengers each X one flight to Dubai per day = 14 million visitors to this sand pile each year. Something’s wrong here...


10 posted on 11/28/2009 7:13:20 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Singapore Airlines was indeed the launch customer. Landing at Changi recently, it was very strange to see seven A380s lined up in a row at the gates.

I was amazed to see that first picture of an A380 next to a 747. It looked like a 737.

11 posted on 11/28/2009 7:14:42 AM PST by DungeonMaster (camel, eye of a needle; rich man, heaven)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"53 A380’s ?"

I believe I read that this is the latgest ($$$) aircraft order ever placed at one time. (something like that)

12 posted on 11/28/2009 7:19:58 AM PST by blam
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Are these businessmen insane? Did anyone at Boeing or Airbus take ten minutes to run the numbers to see if this order made sense?

Or where they like giddy five-year-olds at Halloween?

I bet the executives have already spent the bonuses they got for getting the big order.

These people disgust me.


13 posted on 11/28/2009 7:23:52 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They fly more than just direct routes to Dubai.


14 posted on 11/28/2009 7:28:33 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Dubai has become a major hub for travel between the US and Europe to Asia.

Sort of like flying AirTran and most flights go through Atlanta.


15 posted on 11/28/2009 7:35:02 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: old curmudgeon
Just a guess but I would think that the biggest news here is that there will be a lot more job losses in the aircraft industry.

Nope, the BIGGER news is there will be less carbon emissions, therefore saving the earth, the animals, plants, insects and all other living things.

16 posted on 11/28/2009 7:36:06 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: BigBobber

“These people disgust me.”

I don’t suppose you’d like to get all the info before you become disgusted, would ya?


17 posted on 11/28/2009 7:43:04 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: old curmudgeon

Boeing is ALREADY laying off.

I know, I’m one of them. . .


18 posted on 11/28/2009 8:05:08 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: old curmudgeon
Just a guess but I would think that the biggest news here is that there will be a lot more job losses in the aircraft industry.

Yes, china is losing a lot of work.

19 posted on 11/28/2009 8:08:50 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: BigBobber
Are these businessmen insane?

Yes, caught up in the no down side BS coming from wall street.

20 posted on 11/28/2009 8:11:16 AM PST by org.whodat
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