" (Jenkins) tried to convince her that she has two moms and even tried to scare her by saying that she was going to be taken from Lisa and transferred to Vermont."
So to hell with the poor kid I guess!!
Posted on 11/29/2009 5:30:50 AM PST by GonzoII
A Vermont judge rules Lisa Miller must turn over her daughter to her former lesbian partner.
Superior Judge William Cohen ruled last week that Lisa Miller, a former lesbian who is now a Christian, must hand her daughter, Isabelle, over to her former partner, Janet Jenkins by Jan. 1.
Miller conceived Isabella through artificial insemination while she was in a civil union with Jenkins. About a year later, Miller left homosexuality.
Jenkins sued for custody, even though she has no biological tie to the child.
Miller admits she made mistakes, like signing a custody agreement while still in the relationship with Jenkins, but Mathew Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel and legal counsel for Miller, said that wouldn't stop him from appealing the decision to the Vermont Supreme Court.
"This judge in Vermont ultimately ruled that he is going to switch custody from Lisa Miller," he said, "and take her own biological daughter Isabella and move her from Virginia and put her into an activist lesbian household up in Vermont with a person she really doesn't know, who's not her biological mother, and frankly who's not acted as a parent."
The courts had ordered to spend time with Jenkins in the past, and Miller complied until her daughter complained.
"Every time that the visitation actually occurred, Isabella had violent reactions, because Janet exposed her to the lesbian lifestyle," Staver said. "(Jenkins) tried to convince her that she has two moms and even tried to scare her by saying that she was going to be taken from Lisa and transferred to Vermont."
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" (Jenkins) tried to convince her that she has two moms and even tried to scare her by saying that she was going to be taken from Lisa and transferred to Vermont."
So to hell with the poor kid I guess!!
Superior Judge William Cohen... deserves... ______
(You can all imagine what I’m filling in on the blank line.)
Flee Vermont. Buy an RV, and stay on the road.
common sense seems to be greatly lacking in the state of Vermont.
Henry Bowman, please call your office.
Common sense also seems lacking in every aspect of this situation—and once again, an innocent child suffers.
Not a lawyer, but since the Mother now resides in VA with her daughter, does the Judge even have jurisdiction? Can he enforce his writ down in VA?
Also, the woman in Vermont wasn't even going to sue for custody until the gay and lesbian groups got in touch with her and convinced her to do so. What kills me is that this woman doesn't even care for the girl, she's just doing it so the gay/lesbian groups can force the issue into the courts and get their activist judges to create a new precedent.
But like the article says, the lawyer for the woman in Virginia will appeal the decision and they still have the Virginia courts to go through, and if necessary, it will go to the Supreme Court.
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Apparently civil unions carry as much weight in law as marriages.
I am outraged, but not surprised. This type of barbaric judgement by perverts is not justice - it is the new normal.
We know that if that Jenkins had been a biological father - custody would have been denied.
Pray for that poor child.
The Virginia appellate have decided that the Vermont decision must be given “full faith and credit” in Virginia, despite Virginia’s marriage amendment which supposedly protects Virginians from recognizing other state’s fake marriages. This is a horrendous travesty. Something will have to give.
This is very sad. My observation is that some women end up in gay relationships after a relationship with a man has gone really, really wrong (could be a marriage, could be a family relationship such as that with their father, etc.) because they find women less threatening. However, it’s not a permanent thing and a lot of them will grow out of it.
I remember singing at the wedding of a woman like that (her wedding to a man, of course) years ago, and many of her friends from her former lesbian life showed up and were pleasant and cordial. But now with the radical gay agenda, this surely can’t be permitted anymore. Gays feel threatened by such a change and they have to enforce the gay agenda.
What happens if Jenkins dies?
Disgusting. The sad thing is that the radical gays now have the courts and the law to enforce their agenda for them.
You are absolutely correct. To grant the lesbian partner full custody is complete evil.
I hope that this story is spread far and wide so that any other wayward women thinking about doing this will have second thoughts. No matter what your age we need to understand that our decisions now affect our future, many times to our detriment.
It appears that the sin of homosexuality has brought more sorrow to Lisa Millers life than she ever thought possible.
While I feel for the child, I find it hard to find sympathy for the mother. Sins of the father situation.
I hope this case reaches the Supreme Court, as I shall pay a rather large sum of money to read the opinions of Justices Thomas and Scalia.
And I’ll have the popcorn ready.
You kill the child of course. /s
How many times have they said this isn't a choice thing.
****However, it’s not a permanent thing and a lot of them will grow out of it.****
The tragedy is that these *experiments* are now insisting on bringing children into the nightmare.
They do not accept the natural laws of procreation and impose their own selfish desires to have a *family* aided and abetted by sperm donors and rented wombs.
Child abuse under the color of law.
Ping.
A perfect example of the Overton window shifting as far to the left as possible.
My cousin went lesbian for about 2 years. It was in reaction I think to being raped. She even had a relationship with a nice woman. Here’s the twist when she broke up with the woman it was very cordial and the woman introduced her to the man she’s been married to for 10 years and has 3 kids with! And she and the woman are still friends. By the way the woman involved thinks that gays should push for civil unions not marriage.
I am really uncomforatable with this statement. "Janet exposed her to the lesbian lifestyle." Violent reactions to a visitation indicate something more than words went on. What is this little girl not telling?
Homosexuality seems a lot less permanent in women than men. I wonder why?
I know quite a few gay people over the years. Never met a man who switched but several women.
No judge is Superior to the One who sits upon the Throne in Heaven, and those who oppose Him need to read Ps. 2.
I think it is bcz women are naturally closer, and to the promotion of experimentation, while a lesbian relationship is not so much, if at all, driven by sexual lust, which the male homosexual evidences much of. The declension of the American male to seeing women as just sex objects, and not the unique creation of God they are, and the superficial nature of the American family, and the overall rebellion of post 60’s culture are also factors.
The radical leftists have been working under the radar, installing their radical choices for judges in courts everywhere, at all levels, for decades. Even in supposedly conservative Montana, a recent court decision similarly awarded custody to a non-biological homosexual ex-partner. I believe they are just recently reaching critical mass to enact their radical agenda unopposed.
Biological parenthood, unbelievably, now no longer ties you to your child. Others can make "plausible" claims upon your child and win if they choose the "right" court. The case in the U.K. still makes me seethe: a child is taken from his unfit, drug-addicted mother and instead of the willing, able, MARRIED grandparents being granted custody, the child was placed with two homosexual men. Furthermore, the grandparents were threatened by the court with NEVER SEEING THEIR GRANDCHILD AGAIN if they objected.
This is coming here. Soon.
That’s fine, daniel1212, but in the meantime evil people can do a lot of damage here on earth.
I don’t want to wait for the Afterlife to put a stop to their activities. I want to stop them in the here-and-now, using secular means.
Homosexuality seems a lot less permanent in women than men. I wonder why?
You’re right. I don’t know why, but it seems like some women
are temporarily so repulsed by the man in their life that they switch over temporarily until over the trauma. (takes swig of cheap whiskey, puffs cigar, scratches self, goes back to cleaning motorcycle parts in bathtub).
“This is very sad. My observation is that some women end up in gay relationships after a relationship with a man has gone really, really wrong (could be a marriage, could be a family relationship such as that with their father, etc.) because they find women less threatening. However, it’s not a permanent thing and a lot of them will grow out of it.”
That’s a good point. The other reason is to make a statement about feminism. No woman can PROVE she’s a feminist without being a lesbian. It’s a just a man-hating stage that young women often go through. No one actually believes that garbage.
Kick this down the lane for the next twenty years or so, you wonder how many kids this will happen to?
***Kick this down the lane for the next twenty years or so, you wonder how many kids this will happen to?***
Good question - expect them to adjust in the same way that children of divorce have coped.
Using my family history:
1940’s no divorces.
1960’s divorces no remarriages.
1980’s divorce and remarriage and integrated families. 2000’s living together before marriage - with children then marriage.
” expect them to adjust in the same way that children of divorce have coped”
I dunno, at some point society reaches a tipping point, when you start snatching children from their biological parent(s)............
I believe you’re right. Every lesbian I ever knew either had an abusive father or an abusive ex-husband. Also, in every case, they were capable of getting huge crushes on men.
Males might be “born gay,” but I firmly believe that females are not.
The child would have had to be in VA for six months pre-lawsuit in order for VA to have jurisdiction under the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction Act.
Vermont custody ping
To quote Blanche Devereaux, that’s because “men have so much more to offer!”.
Good point....under color of law children are being *snatched* for spite.
It is appropriate to rescue children for abuse, neglect and abandonment, but these *custody* battles are being decided on political correctness, not in the best interest of the children. The tipping point you raise, will be decided by those poor children. Watch for law suits.
Why their agenda is wrong. It’s contrary to our nature.
How can the lesbian show that she should be justly given a child that is not hers biologically?
Any lawyers out there in Freepland?
I certainly believe in opposing them in the here and now, but even they seem to recognize the necessity of finding Divine sanction for homosexuality and marriage, and thus expend inordinate amounts of energy vainly seeking to negate the Biblical injunctions against it. To which I respond with about 35,000 words of my own. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/HomoVsBible-Intro.html
Thank God who made man and women uniquely compatible and complementary, and only joined them in marriage.
I have to tell you a story... back when I was in my early 20's I was just getting involved in amateur racing.
While my wife had gone to her parents house for a visit, I was rebuilding my latest frankenstein engine and decided the dishwasher was the perfect way to clean some things up nicely...
Well, my wife cam home early. Instead of catching me in bed with another woman, she found a full set of pistons and rods in the dishwasher.
It was an uncomfortable afternoon, but at least she didn't leave and shack up with a woman.
Affectionate touching releases oxytocin. This makes for fondness between husband and wife; it also makes a mother's breastfeeding and contact with small children pleasurable and emotionally satisfying.
Needless to say, the interplay of both,(male/female, testosterone/oxytocin) is essential for the continuation of the human race via a strong drive for intercourse, followed by the maintenance of the wife/husband bond and the mother/child bond.
Get two men together sexually, and it goes haywire, it's like testosterone2: aggressive lustful behavior, frequent impersonal sexual contact, little pair bonding. Two women, the converse: oxytocin2.
One might think that this would make women's homosexuality more permanent, but it has a paradoxical opposite effect as well: when women break up, they feel deeply wounded and broken-hearted, so they often don't "move on" to another partner. They may decide to try a kind of defensive abstinence, or invest their emotional energy into their child, or into God/spirituality.
But gay men are more likely to just keep pinballing around from partner to partner.
Like all generalizations, this of course runs into all kinds of particular exceptions. But as a general observation, it's what I've seen.
The consequences of sin is passed down through generations.
very interesting post.
See the lesbian ex-partner is trying to convert a CHILD! SICK! This is a nightmare in living color. What a sick story this child will read when she is an adult. I hope the biological mother triumphs, but I have reservation about her also.
[Lesbians fighting over custody]
Miller conceived Isabella through artificial insemination while she was in a civil union with Jenkins. About a year later, Miller left homosexuality. "
Reading further, we find that [of course] the ACLU entered the case on the side of the butch and tried to have the biological mom jailed -- they failed.
The previous poster that said the gay lobby is only doing this for reasons of winning a court case and setting a precedent, were absolutely right. Why else would the ACLU and the Lambda Legal Defense Fund get involved?
Below are pics of the two, ahem, "ladies." Guess which one is the "dad" and which is the "mom."
Jenkins is on the left and Miller is on the right. Pretty easy to distinguish the two.
I think that is much the case, is just another example of the wise perception i often see among posters on FR. Thank God, who created and joined man and women for more than just sex and procreation.
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