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Democrats in revolt over Barack Obama’s troop surge
London Times ^ | 11/29/2009 | Marie Colvin

Posted on 11/29/2009 7:29:04 AM PST by Saije

Barack Obama's much-vaunted eloquence faces the biggest test of his presidential career this week when he takes to the stage at West Point military academy to explain to a nation that thought it had elected an anti-war president why he is escalating the conflict in Afghanistan.

After almost three months of agonising, nine war councils and endless leaks, the president will finally make his views known on Tuesday when he is expected to announce that he is sending about 30,000 more troops. This will push up American forces to 100,000 and the total number of allied forces to almost 140,000, as many troops as the Soviet Union had in Afghanistan.

The carefully chosen backdrop cannot disguise Obama’s dilemma. Somehow he has to convince his own public that the United States has an exit strategy and will not become bogged down, as it did in Vietnam, while making clear to the Taliban and Pakistan that it has not lost its resolve and will stay as long as it takes.

Obama’s toughest challenge will be to win over his most loyal political supporters. He is facing a growing revolt in the Democratic party over why the US needs to be in Afghanistan at all when the real threat — Al-Qaeda — is in Pakistan, and over the spiralling cost in both lives and dollars.

“I think the operative question is why we’re there,” said Anna Eshoo, a Democratic congresswoman who sits on the House intelligence committee. “That’s what I’ll be wanting to hear from the president.”***

The annual bill for the extra troops is estimated at $30 billion (£18.2 billion), on top of the $10 billion-a-month the war is costing. “We’re still not out of Iraq and we’re getting deeper into Afghanistan, both of which are hugely expensive,” she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; democrats; obama; war
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I know this has been noted before so it's not an original thought but I always find it amusing when Democrats start talking about how expensive something is. Maybe they should be pushing to have military bases and weapons factories in their districts.
1 posted on 11/29/2009 7:29:05 AM PST by Saije
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To: Saije
He is facing a growing revolt in the Democratic party over why the US needs to be in Afghanistan at all when the real threat — Al-Qaeda — is in Pakistan, and over the spiralling cost in both lives and dollars.

Democrats are such pathetic liars. When Iraq was hot, they would say the real problem was in Afghanistan, which was where our resources should be going. If we WERE to go to Pakistan, they'd belly-ache about that too.

What they really want is for use to disband the military, roll over on our backs, and acquiesce to the enemy.

2 posted on 11/29/2009 7:35:02 AM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: Saije

During the coming annunication from the mount at West Point, note that bama will continue to whine that this regrettable decision is all Bush’s fault because Bush and Cheney screwed up “the past 8 years” ..... even though bamster has now been in office almost a year himself.

Note that he will claim or hint that the reason the war (will he call it that) hasn’t been won yet is because bamster was not in charge ... even though he is now almost 25% through his term

Pour a beer and take a drink every time he mentions or hints at “mistakes of the past 8 years” (ironically one year of which has been HIS, as of January)


3 posted on 11/29/2009 7:36:08 AM PST by silverleaf (Ours is the only country on earth with a ventriloquist dummy for President)
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To: silverleaf

Barry defiles the ground at West Point. May his words turn to ashes in his mouth.


4 posted on 11/29/2009 7:37:55 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Saije

Another photo op for the POS.


5 posted on 11/29/2009 7:40:28 AM PST by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: silverleaf
Pour a beer and take a drink every time he mentions or hints at “mistakes of the past 8 years

If you did that you'd be on a rocket sled to the detox center.

6 posted on 11/29/2009 7:42:12 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Saije
We’re still not out of Iraq and we’re getting deeper into Afghanistan, both of which are hugely expensive,”

The hypocrisy of these people never ceases to amaze me.

7 posted on 11/29/2009 7:42:44 AM PST by LiberConservative (0bama was elected to lead, not to bow.)
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To: fwdude
What they really want is for us to disband the military, roll over on our backs, roll on our belly's, drop our drawers, stick our arse's in the air, and acquiesce to the enemy.

There, I fixed it.

8 posted on 11/29/2009 7:45:30 AM PST by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: Saije

Yes, Democrats ARE revolting.


9 posted on 11/29/2009 7:46:55 AM PST by digger48
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To: Saije

He’s making LBJ look like Patton.

Pray for America and Our Troops


10 posted on 11/29/2009 7:48:57 AM PST by bray (Palin can see the White House from her Porch)
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"Good Americans, things are not going right for your great country. The war in Iraq had taken a great toll on you and the Afghan war will likely press on you further. Are all these adventures justifiable?

You and I know that the more the war drags on, the more casualties there will be. How many more body bags must you see before you say enough is enough.

Your President is willing to send a further 30000 men into the fight. Is it enough for you to stay on? You will need more than this to be victorious. This is subjective for no victory is permanent. When you finally leave, the mice will again come out to play and will you return to fight again? You see Afghanistan is someone's else country and it is impossible for the USA or any other country to "defend" it against its own people.

Your war on terror should have ended long time ago. Your tax payer's money cannot go on forever to finance a war that cannot be won. Your gallant soldiers are all tired and weary. You can fight to bring them home. Yes, you can."

This is one of the reader responses to the article, and is an almost perfect example of how the left saps our morale and destroys our will to fight. So persuasive. So insinuating. So reasonable. Just give up and go home. It's not our fight. It's their country. We can't win anyway. It's almost hypnotic.

It's Tokyo Rose all over again.

11 posted on 11/29/2009 7:49:04 AM PST by Batrachian
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Actually, I’ll believe the “surge” when I see it. What Barry has probably worked out is some way to have the world’s slowest surge, so that the enemy will have plenty of time to dig in and even whittle down our existing forces on the ground. It’s all going to be slieght of hand, probably as many will be taken out as will be sent in.

He has already said he has no intention of doing that distasteful thing called “winning,” so what is the point? He’s doing the charade only because the American people are getting dangerously restless, and his fellow Dems know this and are providing a little bit of theater of their own.


12 posted on 11/29/2009 7:50:57 AM PST by livius
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To: Saije
Why is the US (and NATO) still in Afghanistan?

9-11

.... in case the leftists have forgotten ....


13 posted on 11/29/2009 7:52:07 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: fwdude
Spot on, and succintly put.

Kudos.

14 posted on 11/29/2009 7:52:39 AM PST by thoolou ("I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous." - David Bradley, inventor of Ctrl-Alt-Del)
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To: Saije

The only MSM truth we can read is from English or Canadian newspapers-—SAD SAD SAD


15 posted on 11/29/2009 7:52:58 AM PST by Uncle George
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To: Saije

Anyone bothered to ask the Barry joke of an administration how long it will take to get those additional troops over to Afghanistan? That is the real joke once it is revealed.


16 posted on 11/29/2009 7:54:37 AM PST by cranked
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To: livius
What Barry has probably worked out is some way to have the world’s slowest surge

Unfortunately, that sounds about right.

17 posted on 11/29/2009 7:55:55 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Piquaboy
If I were those in attendance,i'd give him a photo op,all right....i'd stand and turn my back on him the whole time he was speaking.
Any time he attends a military photo op event,the soldiers should ALL stand and turn their back on him.
I get the whole respect for the CIC thing and all,and I know that our guys and girls don't have it in them to do such a thing,but this is a regime,not an administration,and any CIC that leaves soldiers twisting in the wind while he has cocktail parties and WH dinners does NOT deserve the time of day.
He's not a CIC.
He's not a leader. He could care less.
He HATES America and all she stands for.
He'd get spit on by me,but then again,that's just me.
18 posted on 11/29/2009 7:57:14 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-G. Orwell)
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To: Saije
Does the article point out that some Dems admit that they intentionally and knowingly LIED during the presidential campaign about Afghanistan being a "just" war and that we should send all our troops from Iraq to Kabul, ASAP?
19 posted on 11/29/2009 7:58:04 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: fwdude
What they really want is to use that defense money to buy votes with here at home. National security? Hell, let the republicans worry about that.
20 posted on 11/29/2009 7:59:10 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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