Posted on 11/30/2009 4:08:19 AM PST by Matt_Rel
Poles protest US Stalin memorial plan
23.11.2009 11:06
The Polish community in the United States is outraged by a plan to honour Josef Stalin by placing his bust on a pedestal at the National D-Day Memorial in Bedford, Virginia.
According to William McIntosh, the director of the Bradford museum, which is coordinating the project, the Soviet dictator deserves to be acknowledged alongside Winston Churchill and Franklin Delano Roosevelt has he was an ally of the US after Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union.
The plans have met with protests from Polish war veterans in New York. President of the Kosciuszko Foundation, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Alex Storozynski described the plans as a ‘misguided move’ that “will haunt millions of Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, Czechs, Hungarians, Jews, etc. whose families were massacred by this Soviet tyrant. Stalin's killing machine slaughtered more people than Adolf Hitler and the Nazis did.”
Storozynski writes in an article: “Hitler and Stalin were allies and started World War II in 1939 by both attacking Poland at the same time. (…) Stalin only gave lip service to the allies so that they would attack Nazi Germany on the Western front. Stalin did not liberate Eastern Europe from the Nazis in 1945…”
The President of the Kosciuszko Foundation has called on Poles living in the United States to address protest letters to the director of the Bradford Museum.
He also said that letters of protest should be sent to President Barack Obama in view of the fact that the director of the Bradford Museum is lobbying Congress to make his museum part of the National Park Service, so that it can receive federal tax dollars.
Too bad, Mr. Barack Hussein! Just tough luck! Warsaw Pact does not exist anymore and the Polish people is rather not interested in its revival.
Still, there's a favor we Poles can always do for you, comrade Obama. You promised change to America, so let's change!
For example, we can change our Warsaw-pact, socialist and socially just and peace-bringing AK Kalashnikovs for capitalist, imperialistic M16A4s, SCARs, or whatever you have there.
Just think about it, comrade! Those M16s were used by such capitalist bloodsuckers and war mongers like Reagan and Bush while our socialist AKs were touched by the hands of such great peace-loving comrades like Stalin, Mao, Khrushchov, Ho-Chi-Minh, Pol Pot, Brezhnev, not to mention your beloved Latin American comrades like Che, Castro or Chavez.
Aha, btw, what about "our" peace-and-justice-bringing T-72, Mig29s, etc? Mr Obama, shall we CHANGE?
Ping.
The dreadful famine that engulfed Ukraine, the northern Caucasus, and the lower Volga River area in 1932-1933 was the result of Joseph Stalin's policy of forced collectivization. The heaviest losses occurred in Ukraine, which had been the most productive agricultural area of the Soviet Union. Stalin was determined to crush all vestiges of Ukrainian nationalism. Thus, the famine was accompanied by a devastating purge of the Ukrainian intelligentsia and the Ukrainian Communist party itself. The famine broke the peasants' will to resist collectivization and left Ukraine politically, socially, and psychologically traumatized.A roll model for our President.The death toll from the 1932-33 famine in Ukraine has been estimated between six million and seven million. According to a Soviet author, "Before they died, people often lost their senses and ceased to be human beings." Yet one of Stalin's lieutenants in Ukraine stated in 1933 that the famine was a great success. It showed the peasants "who is the master here. It cost millions of lives, but the collective farm system is here to stay."
I honor Obama as much as I did Jimmy Carter— not at all. He was, up to this point anyway, the worst POTUS in living memory. (It is now a tie.) For Obama to honor Josef Stalin is an outrage.
(It is now a tie.)
Yep, and just barely a year in. We’ll be pining for Carter by the time 0 is done.
Damn it. The Poles are not the only ones outraged. Why would we honor an evil mass murdering narcissist like this??????
After all, Iran would approve.
Stalin saved thousands American lives in WW II. He ground down the German war machine to the extent that they had to send old men and boys to fight on the western front. The best divisions the Germans had were fighting in the eastern front. The Russian forces ate the German Armies. In that sense the Tyrant did more and suffered more than we did. As bad as the taste left in my mouth is, the SOB was instrumental in defeating Hitler. He was the major player in the European Theater,and thus deserving of the bust in a war memorial.
Well, we honored Hubertus Strughold with a position, a plaque, and a building, why not Stalin?
I think Stalin’s head, under a glass walkway, would be appropriate. he’d be there but not on a pedestal, and people could look down between their feet to see the back of the statue’s head.
He was indeed an important WWII figure and should be included, but appropriately and with great sensitivity. /s
In Eastern Europe, molding it into the bottom of a urinal would be more culturally sensitive.
Just trying to help.
Preposterous!
Stalin never meant to start war against Nazis. He was so sure of his German friend that he didn't even believe his own commanders informing him on Nazi assault on Soviet Union. The best proves to it is a fact that he declared war on Nazi Germany only 20 days after the Wehrmacht crossed the Soviet border.
Stalin started to fight Nazis to save his own ass only! Not for love to America and her soldiers. If you studied more, then you'd surely know that Stalin wanted to continue his advancement to the West in 1945. Yes, yes! To fight US Army that had just liberated Europe!
The thing that halted him was the news from Japan that America had dropped a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima. He knew well enough that without nuclear arsenal he was not able to defeat America.
And that's all.
I’m sure some real americans’ will be sure this has a short “half-life”.....
All I can tell you as a native Pole is that whoever hates American values of freedom, full free-market economy and questions NATURAL America’s leadership in our Free Western World, then he/she is our NATURAL enemy too.
No matter you love it or hate it, the USA is the only guarantee of freedom and democracy in our Western civilization. If America collapses, turns into a socialist proKremlin crap, or so, then my beloved Poland will be in serious danger TOO.
After all, we are all in the same boat.
Don’t know if i prefer Stalin or Hitler!!!
I absolutly don’t care if STALIN fought HITLER after they broke their alliance!
They were still 2 tyrants but STALIN and the communist regim killed a lot of more people...
Completly irrelevant! Thanks for the joke
This is a D Day memorial, not a memorial to those who fought with us in WW II. There are no statues of Churchill and Roosevelt at the Stalingrad Memorial, nor there should be.
Maybe we should put up a bust of Ossama Bin Laden at some military memorial because he was on our side during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan?
Would we ever ignore the human rights records of Batista, Somoza, Pinochet, and Saddam Hussein, and honor them as well because they were one time allies of this country?
Yet they were minor tyrants compared to Stalin who murdered tens of millions of his own countrymen and enslaved Eastern Europe after the Red Army “liberated it”. Stalin was Hitlers ally in conquering and dividing up Poland and only became his enemy once Hitler turned on him. Only then did he become our “ally”.
He was our ally out of convenience, nothing more, and to honor this evil thug with a bust at a D Day Memorial on American soil is an ourage!
There’s one difference between Carter and Obama. Ten years in uniform. Whatever Carter did later on, that means there’s at least something in his life to respect.
Of course, you're right about the cost of the eastern front to Hitler's Germany during WWII. But remember that the ONLY reason that Stalin was an erstwhile ally was because Germany attacked them. Early on there was a non-agression pact signed between the two as they divvied up Poland. And the leftists in the US were steadfast against the US joining the war against Hitler's Germany until the USSR was attacked!
Mark
OK, so if Hitler did not invade Russia, all his East Front resources would have been used in Normandy. Our chances of success there would have been?? And if all the east front resources were partially used in Norway to defend the heavy water plant, thus enabling them to also develop the bomb, how many American lives would have been saved?
Stalin had just been kicked in the ass by the Finns, he lost most of his high ranking officers above LTC during the purges of the late 30’s, he wasn’t prepared for a war against Hitler, but to say he was going to sit on his butt and not go to war with Germany is far fetched. He was waiting for England and France to weaken the Germans before he got into it. Our losses would have been far in excess of that which we had, had not Russia taken on the Germans, 1 day or 20 after they went into Russia. Had the Russian leader been the Czar, he would have been praised by all, for his contribution. Look at the statistics, American losses compared to the German and Russian losses. The soldiers lost on the eastern front exceeded by far anything we experienced in the 3 fronts we were involved in.
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