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December 3, 2009 | several

Posted on 12/02/2009 10:31:56 PM PST by Freedom2specul8

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To: hennie pennie; Jim Robinson; ~Kim4VRWC's~

It doesn’t work that way. You are on our thread that was approved by Jim Robinson before it was posted. He read every word.


141 posted on 12/03/2009 9:06:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: hennie pennie

Good lord, the histrionics coming from you. Have you ever considered auditioning for a soap opera?

If you do not want the RNC to have your Freeper handle, don’t give to them.

If you’re so paranoid you don’t want them to know your real name or address, don’t give it to them.

Better yet, don’t send a letter at all.


142 posted on 12/03/2009 9:09:17 AM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Too juvenile to have any effect, Kim.


143 posted on 12/03/2009 9:09:20 AM PST by 1Swashbuckler
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Well you have a false premise. The RNC is hearing us and does not care and actually believes that conservatives are to radical for the party.
144 posted on 12/03/2009 9:11:31 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$; ~Kim4VRWC's~

Then don’t write a letter. “Nothing ventured, nothing gained.”


145 posted on 12/03/2009 9:14:00 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: hennie pennie

I used to be a moderator for a group against illegal aliens and we were furious over the stance the RNC took on it all our members asked for their donations back lol and everyone told them how mad they were and would not donate. They literally had to close some offices.

I am still mad about that actually and until I see a candidate who stands for the things I think are important no more $$ and we moved last year so I won’t give them any info either.


146 posted on 12/03/2009 9:16:30 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Didn’t think of it that way. If they received say “thousands” of letters of former supporters, who are demanding change, would they still ignore us? If that’s TRUE, than I will never vote repub again.


147 posted on 12/03/2009 9:16:41 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Vote conservative....Please pray for our Troops, our Vets, our Country, Families and Friends)
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To: FromLori

Asking for donations back...thats a good one.


148 posted on 12/03/2009 9:18:48 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Vote conservative....Please pray for our Troops, our Vets, our Country, Families and Friends)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
This really argues for a strong national conservative party. You will not drive RINOs out of the republican party.

A strong conservative party would become one of two major parties with I estimate 33-40% of the voters and relegating the GOP-RINOs to third place and eventually ignominy. A strong conservative party, espousing the values described here, could vie for independent votes in election years and capture a national majority.

149 posted on 12/03/2009 9:23:49 AM PST by votemout
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s a rather simplistic view.

A lot of good conservatives lost in 2008. They didn’t lose because they were conservative, but they lost.

The problem with trying to make a political party “my way or the highway” is that nobody thinks alike, and the more things you put on the list, the fewer people will agree with your position on all of them.

You have things on this list that conservatives disagree with, depending on their ‘flavor’ of conservatism. But beyond that, not everybody who is “conservative” is conservative on every issue.

The attempt to define “conservative” by a list of issues is hard enough. To then limit yourself to people who are the same as you on those issues will guarantee you a minority party of no consequence, kind of like the libertarian and constitution parties today.

In countries where they do parties like this, they have dozens of parties, they all win a few seats, and then they make “coalitions”, where the members of the coalition don’t agree on everything but decide to “get along”.

In our country, we’ve decided to do “coalition-building” at the party level. That necessitates parties that have some leeway, both in degree and application.

SO not only does the pro-life movement allow for different “meanings” of pro-life when endorsing candidates, but the republican party includes fiscally conservative, limited-government libertarian types who don’t agree with the pro-life position.

As a website, Free Republic can certainly factionalize — we are already only a small portion of the republican party. But if the party exists to create a ruling majority, it has to be a bigger tent than could exist under the guidelines specified here.

Now, these are great guidelines for deciding who to vote for in a republican primary. The way you eliminate those you disagree with is at the ballot box, not by imposing a purity test.


150 posted on 12/03/2009 9:23:54 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

We lost elections because the Rinos in Washington backed big government. We won in 94 because of the Contract with America. People WANT smaller government and less taxes. Either the RNC goes there, or we all lose.


151 posted on 12/03/2009 9:26:25 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Oddly, we did NOT purge the Virginia Republican committee of moderates (and in fact dumped a solidly conservative leader), but we managed to win election with 3 solidly conservative candidates, because that’s who we chose in the convention.

If you have local committees that pick candidates, you have to stack them with conservatives. But otherwise, you are better off not applying litmus tests to your local committee membership, because that factionalizes your worker base, making it harder to help candidates win election.

Just in the interest of disclosure, I dropped out of our local republican committee last year, before the election, and do not intend to re-join.


152 posted on 12/03/2009 9:27:44 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I agree with you 99.999%


153 posted on 12/03/2009 9:28:21 AM PST by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

This thread is about a letter writing campaign. Either you’ll write one or you won’t.


154 posted on 12/03/2009 9:29:33 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Sounds great.


155 posted on 12/03/2009 9:32:08 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: hennie pennie; ~Kim4VRWC's~; Jim Robinson; Candor7; appalachian_dweller; Rushmore Rocks; blam; ...

I certainly have enough problems in my day to day life
without courting outright animousity and who-knows-
what-all-else from getting my name on a list for
millionaire-RINOs and billionaire-RINOs and their friends &
supporters to plot and plan over.

Paranoia works against your First Amendment rights.
They know this and exploit it.

If YOU don't stand up and be heard, others will yell louder
and continue to CONTROL the RNC:


Use your First Amendment rights NOW, or you'll be forced to exercise your Second Amendment rights later.


156 posted on 12/03/2009 9:34:50 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: hennie pennie; JimRobonson

You are right hennie. We need a way to secure ourseloves against retribution before we do this.

In other words , a plan “ X” rather han plan B.We need to be ready to litigate and demonstrate any retribution on ANY freeper.

This takes things to a whole new level, but I am ready to do so. We just have to be smart and organized about it.

We need a FREEPER parallel organization to take care of such things nationally. A “Don’t Tread on me “ function.


157 posted on 12/03/2009 9:34:53 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: DJ MacWoW

Oh, I’ve written letters. I’m one of those here who does not give any money to the RNC, or the RSCC, or the RCCC.

I donate to specific candidates.

However, my reasons for not donating would not be assauged if the RNC adopted a purity list such as posted here.

What I would like to see is for them to get more local input in recruitment, to NOT support candidates in primaries (even incumbents), and to adopt a set of principles (and even issues, and it could be like your list) that are the “official” majority position of the RNC that would be used by the leadership when responding to things the democrats do.

So, I want the Republicans to be the conservative party, and to espouse a list like what you have made, but NOT to kick out potential candidates simply for not adhering to the list.

The local committee can apply the litmus test appropriate for the local electorate. The people who are purists can be independents, and can send letters telling each party what the party needs to nominate to get their vote.


158 posted on 12/03/2009 9:35:25 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It's not a purity list. See post 70. It's called a Party Platform. The RNC has one. It's not unreasonable to ask them to support and believe it.
159 posted on 12/03/2009 9:40:30 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Candor7; hennie pennie

Letter writers do not need to use ours. It was meant as a guide. People can write their own. Don’t tell them they’re a member of FR. Simple.


160 posted on 12/03/2009 9:43:08 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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