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TWT (Washington Times) announces new structure, layoffs (Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)
The Washington Times ^ | December 3, 2009 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 12/03/2009 5:24:34 AM PST by abb

Acting Publisher Jonathan Slevin on Wednesday announced plans for a "new" Washington Times that will focus more narrowly on its core areas of coverage while operating with a deeply reduced work force.

"We will focus on our strengths -- exclusives, in-depth reporting, politics, enterprise stories, geostrategic and national news, plus cultural reporting based on traditional values," Mr. Slevin said at a meeting of the newspaper's editorial and support staff who were warned to expect "significant staff reductions" within 60 days.

All employees were handed letters advising them that at least 40 percent of the workforce will be laid off in the coming weeks. The cuts are necessary for the newspaper "to keep pace with the dynamically changing economics of the news business," Mr. Slevin said.

Mr. Slevin, who also serves as acting president of The Washington Times, also said the paper would shift from its current subscription-based model to a controlled circulation model where newspapers will be distributed free of charge in key locations aimed at Washington policy- and opinion-makers.

Home delivery will continue to be available at a premium price, he said. Current subscribers will be offered the electronic edition, the national weekly edition or other options.

"The new Washington Times will continue to focus on fearless reporting, crisp editorials and traditional American values," Mr. Slevin said. "We are a 21st-century media company, refocusing as a provider of insight in the nation's capital. We are reshaping operations to keep pace with the news business."

The mission of The Times, Mr. Slevin told employees, is "to provide an independent, alternative voice," delivered on the multiple platforms of the contemporary press, including digital, print and broadcast formats.

Like many news organizations, The Times is facing a challenging financial scenario.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: advertising; dbm; newspapers; washingtontimes; wt
The decline in the ink-on-paper communications system has no ideological boundaries. It is a technology thing.
1 posted on 12/03/2009 5:24:37 AM PST by abb
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To: 04-Bravo; aimhigh; andyandval; Arizona Carolyn; backhoe; Bahbah; bert; bilhosty; Caipirabob; ...

ping


2 posted on 12/03/2009 5:25:19 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

How many jobs does that count as saved or created?


3 posted on 12/03/2009 5:28:02 AM PST by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: abb

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/02/AR2009120203295.html
Washington Times cuts in staff, coverage cue new era

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107104574569570797550520.html
How Google Can Help Newspapers

http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2009/12/globes_largest_2.html?s_campaign=8315
Globe’s largest union expels its president

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107104574573402099422762.html
Comcast, GE Strike Deal; Vivendi to Sell NBC Stake

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703735004574572392440509168.html
Comcast May Test New ‘Windows’ for Movies on Cable


4 posted on 12/03/2009 5:29:33 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

“We will focus on our strengths — exclusives, in-depth reporting, politics, enterprise stories, geostrategic and national news, plus cultural reporting based on traditional values,” Mr. Slevin said at a meeting of the newspaper’s editorial and support staff”

Yeah, every paper keeps saying this, than we open the paper and it doesn’t hold our interest longer than the time it takes to turn the pages. (Usually, about 30 seconds.)


5 posted on 12/03/2009 5:31:13 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: abb

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/business/media/04nbc.html?hp
Comcast Gets NBC From G.E., Reshaping the TV Industry

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/business/media/03nbc.html?ref=business
In Secret Meetings, Comcast Wooed G.E. and Won NBC

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/us/politics/03radio.html?ref=business
Black Caucus Seeks to Ease Radio’s Woes

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-comcast4-2009dec04,0,7144558.story
Comcast strikes deal to buy NBC Universal from GE

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-burke3-2009dec03,0,575935.story
For Steve Burke, Comcast job is the role of his life

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik3-2009dec03,0,2652409.column
Stakes rising for cable TV firms and content providers

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/12/comcast-goes-on-offensive-in-dc-.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+newsandbuzz+(News+%26+Buzz)
Comcast goes on offensive in D.C.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 5:37:32 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: 1776 Reborn

It defies logic that anyone interested in ‘news’ would look at something printed yesterday to determine what’s going on today.

Obits? OK.

Sales at the mall? OK.

Current weather? News? Not so much.


7 posted on 12/03/2009 5:43:32 AM PST by IncPen (SEC PROSECUTE AL GORE FOR TRADE FRAUD - GIVE BACK THE OSCAR! - GIVE BACK THE NOBEL!)
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To: abb

http://www.gannettoid.com/index.html
Will more furloughs follow?

http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/12/on-transparency-objectivity-and-the-near-occasion-of-subjectivity/
On transparency, objectivity, and the near occasion of subjectivity

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=118420
FCC Considers Allocating TV Spectrum For Wireless Broadband


8 posted on 12/03/2009 5:44:32 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Kind of sad. The Washington Times used to provide a good counter balance to the liberal Washington Post.


9 posted on 12/03/2009 5:46:00 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: abb
The Washington (com)Post reports on this news. . .front page.

The WaPo article is sleazy in its overt gloating and constant reference to Rev Moon running the paper. . .getting the facts wrong, as per usual.

10 posted on 12/03/2009 5:46:00 AM PST by Hulka
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To: IncPen

Yep, the paper looks more like a Cliff Note version of an old scap book than real breaking news.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 5:52:50 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: abb

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1004049802
SPECIAL REPORT: Are ‘Accidental’ Newspaper Owners and Outside Financiers Up to the Task?

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/407448-Comcast_NBCU_Opposition_Lines_Up.php
Comcast-NBCU: Opposition Lines Up
Free Press, Consumer Federation of America and smaller cable operators voice concerns about deal

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/400709-FiOS_Expands_International_Fare_With_World_TV.php
FiOS Expands International Fare With World TV
Adds three channels from GlobeCast division

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/400885-CEA_CTIA_Ask_FCC_to_Reallocate_Spectrum_to_Wireless_Broadband.php
CEA, CTIA Ask FCC to Reallocate Spectrum to Wireless Broadband
Letter warns commission of “looming spectrum crisis”


12 posted on 12/03/2009 5:56:15 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/12/02/cnn-missing-dobbs/
CNN: Missing Dobbs

http://www.buzzmachine.com/
Get off the lawn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/dec/03/google-josh-cohen
Google’s Josh Cohen: Publishers still need us, and we give them control

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/
Comcast/GE/NBCU Transaction Details

http://www.reuters.com/article/GlobalMedia09/idUSTRE5B15PI20091203
Don’t expect same Oprah show: Discovery

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6839fb26-df8b-11de-98ca-00144feab49a.html
Google set to enter UK property market

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/02/time-inc-digital-magazine/
Time Inc’s “Manhattan Project” Is A Tablet Magazine


13 posted on 12/03/2009 6:19:52 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
"The decline in the ink-on-paper communications system has no ideological boundaries. It is a technology thing."

Pretty strong evidence it'd seem so.

I'd wager there's a cultural element here, one of the facets making up the whole behind 'the' reason.

There's technology, people simply not reading much, of anything, anymore. Content. Overhead etc.

To use a smarmy term?
The perfect storm.

14 posted on 12/03/2009 6:25:35 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: abb
OK abb, no time to be coy. LOL
What're your thought(s) on what'll happen, if anything, at NBC/U now that Comcast has controlling interest??
15 posted on 12/03/2009 6:28:56 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: abb
I have been a subscriber since I was stationed here in 1993.

Reading the Wash Times and drinking a cup of coffee is my morning ritual and I really like the paper.

I must say it took a turn for the mediocre when Wesley Pruden retired and the new Editor started filling space with AP and Reuters crap.

It still prints all the facts rather than printing only the convenient ones like the WaPo does.

I do not like reading news papers on line so I will have to see how this shakes out.

16 posted on 12/03/2009 6:36:14 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Landru

What Comcast is buying (IMO), is NBC/U’s content. Old movies, old tv shows, etc. NBC as a “network” will fade away. In fact, with this purchase, you could say it is already gone. You can be sure that whatever ain’t making money will be snuffed. That’s why I still say Network News (ABCCBSNBC) is living on borrowed time. The news divisions don’t make money.

Comcast has to figure out how to make money from this content. They could try locking it up and rationing it out to viewers for a fee. But that’s problematic as file sharing can blow that out of the water. The music industry tried that and failed miserably.

I don’t have a clue as to how they’ll turn this into a money machine like it used to be when they controlled distribution. And I suspect they don’t either.

And I still maintain that the concept of TV “networks” as we have perceived them to be all our lives is kaput.

Originally it was called “chain broadcasting.”

http://www.oldandsold.com/articles09/advertising-11.shtml
Spot Versus Chain Broadcasting


17 posted on 12/03/2009 6:41:20 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: OldMissileer

I used to like the paper version. But now I race downstairs every morning to log on to FR to see what is REALLY going on. When I hear the paper delivery boy go by on the street in the morning, I always pride myself in having read everything I need to know before he drives by.


18 posted on 12/03/2009 6:50:30 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Landru

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/comcast-youre-in-the-news-business-now/
Comcast, You’re in the News Business Now


19 posted on 12/03/2009 7:02:11 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
"What Comcast is buying (IMO), is NBC/U’s content. Old movies, old tv shows, etc."

Exactly what Turner did acquiring MGM.
His nets TCM, TBS, TNT had an instant film library only this takes the idea a quantum level higher what-with game shows, soaps etc.

"NBC as a 'network' will fade away. In fact, with this purchase, you could say it is already gone."

Fascinating take abb, to say the least.
I'd have thought just because the denizens occupying the executive suites changed, everything from there down would remain the same. Of course there'd be adjustment(s) en-route, but basically to the cogs there'd be no appreciable difference in day to day operations.

"You can be sure that whatever ain’t making money will be snuffed."

One of the 'adjustments' I suggested? LOL

"That’s why I still say Network News (ABCCBSNBC) is living on borrowed time. The news divisions don’t make money."

OK, how about the shouting shows, specifically NBC-U's shake-n-bake MSNBC & their entire staff?

"Comcast has to figure out how to make money from this content."

Wouldn't one have thought [that] was a forgone conclusion? What CC was bidding for, knowing they had ideas of what to do with it before bidding began? OK I may be thick, devoid of any business acumen whatsoever, but, these are corporate bigwigs with all minimally holding MBAs, too.

"They could try locking it up and rationing it out to viewers for a fee. But that’s problematic as file sharing can blow that out of the water. The music industry tried that and failed miserably."

Well then WTH would pursue something made by NBC, regardless what it is or how they had to acquire it?
Not I. LOL

"I don’t have a clue as to how they’ll turn this into a money machine like it used to be when they controlled distribution. And I suspect they don’t either."

Maybe, you're usually either correct or damned close.
That said what's to stop CC from simply returning NBC to providing enjoyable programming, selling ad time & dumping the 'attitude' that seems to have come when Immelt took the reigns? Seems to me Immelt's the problem. Get rid of Immelt & ya get rid of his influence & all those who made it possible.

In any event sure will be an interesting story to watch evolve.

"And I still maintain that the concept of TV “networks” as we have perceived them to be all our lives is kaput...Originally it was called 'chain broadcasting.'"

"Spot Versus Chain Broadcasting"

Not ashamed to admit that article kind of had my head swimming. LOL
Would've guessed the issue(s) of spot versus network settled years ago. That is one's better for one type of audience, the other for another. Apparently I guessed wrong. LOL

Then there's Clear Channel's Limbaugh Show.
I understand it's radio, but, are the two mediums that different? Point being if there's something people really want? They'll find it, make whatever adjustment(s) necessary. I feel the same holds true for television, regardless the mode of delivery. The A#1 problem is, to me, TV's all garbage; hence, the disinterest & certainly such is the case in our home.

20 posted on 12/03/2009 7:35:47 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Landru

Think of it this way. The reason “broadcasting” - ink on paper and electronic - was a money machine was because they OWNED the DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. Their content ALWAYS sucked. It’s just that since they controlled the pipeline, that’s all we got and we didn’t know better.

All different now. Much content. Much news. Much opinion. Much entertainment.

Competition they never had.

It’s all about the distribution, the chain, the network.


21 posted on 12/03/2009 7:41:35 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Landru

I’ll chime in. Comcast is a leftist company that resisted Fox News for years till subscribers stormed their doors.

Comcast will turn NBC into a left wing propaganda organ.


22 posted on 12/03/2009 7:54:41 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: bert
Comcast will turn NBC into a left wing propaganda organ.

Damn, Bert. They're flush up against the flange now. How can they go further?

23 posted on 12/03/2009 8:10:20 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: bert
bert!!
How in the world are you?
You probably wouldn't believe it wasn't 48 hours ago & I was thinking about you, what you were up to. So, I won't; but, I did. LOL

"I’ll chime in."

About time. LOL!!

"Comcast is a leftist company that resisted Fox News for years till subscribers stormed their doors."

Oh?
Heard what Comcast tried pulling on DirecTV, right?
Comcast tried gouging DTV for their Versus network; so, DTV removed Versus from the lineup. Sent all us subscribers a very frank email stating the case.

bert, could it --possibly-- be Comcast wanted to gouge FNC, too? The mo sounds awfully similar something beyond the normal purview of the subscribers. Just wondering.

"Comcast will turn NBC into a left wing propaganda organ."

Ahhhhhh, *turn it into*???
LOL!!!!!!! :o)
Be an awfully short transition, bert. ;^)

OTOH let's say Comacast ratchets-up MSNBC, I mean really pours on the coals to the loser net.
You'll have hit the proverbial bulls-eye.

OK, so we've 1 "Move'er Liberal" with abb abstaining, for now, and I preferring to remain anonymous. LOL ;^)

24 posted on 12/03/2009 8:11:26 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: abb

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1209/New_WH_pool_rotation_sparks_debate.html
New WH pool rotation sparks debate

http://www.slate.com/id/2237247/
Par for the Course


25 posted on 12/03/2009 8:13:03 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
"Competition they never had...It’s all about the distribution, the chain, the network."

Wondering why that important fact of life's eluded me.
Because it's really no more difficult than: They own the wire & control all across it. {doink!} :^)

26 posted on 12/03/2009 8:15:52 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: caver
How many jobs does that count as saved or created?

In 0bama-math every employee laid off creates an opening so that counts as a job created and the lay-offs and openings cancel each other out. Those employees still working count as jobs saved.

27 posted on 12/03/2009 8:19:45 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Landru
Wondering why that important fact of life's eluded me.

Because it was all we ever knew all our lives. Think about it - COMMUNICATIONS IS THE HUMAN CONDITION. And if someone or something can control what, how and when that communication takes place, that my friend is TOTAL POWER.

The very first internet - the Semaphore Telegraph - was government owned. They were the only entity that could afford it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semaphore_line

Free use of the printing press caused the American Revolution. Had not our rebel ancestors been able to communicate and propagandize, we wouldn't be here.

Had not Martin Luther been able to print and distribute his 95 Theses, there would be no Protestant Religion.

Every step of freedom the Human Race has taken has been caused/accompanied by a corresponding expansion of the ability to communicate.

And that's why we ain't seen nothing yet. The internet will cause more freedom to break out more widely among more people than anytime since the dawn of mankind.

And that's why "they" are so scared of it.

28 posted on 12/03/2009 10:00:54 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://www.telegram.com/article/20091203/NEWS/912030696/1116
Second suitor looks at T&G

http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/bringing_it_all_back_home.php?page=all
Bringing It All Back Home
The Washington Post closes its last remaining national bureaus


29 posted on 12/03/2009 10:06:55 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
"And that's why we ain't seen nothing yet. The internet will cause more freedom to break out more widely among more people than anytime since the dawn of mankind...And that's why "they" are so scared of it."

You're correct.

So, we all have to know "they" will have to muzzle this Internet thing sooner or later, then.
It's inevitable.

30 posted on 12/03/2009 2:59:47 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Landru
So, we all have to know "they" will have to muzzle this Internet thing sooner or later, then. It's inevitable.

Call me Pollyanna, but I don't think they can do it or they would have already done so. I think it got ahead of them, just like the printing press did.

31 posted on 12/03/2009 3:02:26 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Landru

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/408004-Comcast_NBCU_For_Comcast_Deal_Is_All_About_Cable.php
Comcast-NBCU: For Comcast, Deal Is All About Cable
No big changes for Hulu

http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/
Glass Half-Full Theory

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1004050552
Fitch Ratings Expects Some Top Newspaper Sites to Try Paid Content in 2010 — and Fail

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1004050483
Most ‘Washington Times’ Circulation Will Be Free Under New Plan


32 posted on 12/03/2009 3:36:44 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

bump


33 posted on 12/03/2009 6:23:42 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Landru

“So, we all have to know “they” will have to muzzle this Internet thing sooner or later, then.
It’s inevitable.”

They may try to control it, but if that fails they may try to overwhelm it with propaganda worldwide.


34 posted on 12/04/2009 3:35:30 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: Landru
“So, we all have to know “they” will have to muzzle this Internet thing sooner or later, then.
It’s inevitable.”

They may try to control it, but if that fails they may try to overwhelm it with propaganda worldwide


To carry on my point a bit further, sites like FR could be targeted daily and technologically overwhelmed so freepers couldn't get in consistently. New ones could be created but these new sites could be identified with computer word searches and quickly targeted as well. All of this could be done covertly, perhaps even as only an annoyance to reduce the sites effectiveness, maybe veiled as web attacks from foreign countries. This would fit the liberal left modus operandi rather well.
35 posted on 12/04/2009 4:09:31 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: abb
I canceled my subscription when the Editor Wesley P. allowed Hillary a column during the Clinton Administration. I left a phone message on his machine about it. He tried to justify it the next day. Goodbye Washington Times.
36 posted on 12/04/2009 4:18:02 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: abb
"Call me Pollyanna..."

Pollyanna. {g}


If anyone's falling for the Forer effect, it'd be me. LOL

"...but I don't think they can do it or they would have already done so."

Patience. LOL
Should the present ilk be foiled on HC, C&T and then their Immigration schemes while thinking they were so close? They'll be out for blood. Just you watch.

"I think it got ahead of them, just like the printing press did."

I pray you're correct.
You've been correct about most everything else, abb; but, this is about raw power, as you've said & I now get.

However both R & D will not share their powers. Have they ever, before?

As I said & sincerely meant, praying you're correct.

37 posted on 12/04/2009 6:04:02 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: 1776 Reborn
"They may try to control it, but if that fails they may try to overwhelm it with propaganda worldwide...To carry on my point a bit further, sites like FR could be targeted daily and technologically overwhelmed so freepers couldn't get in consistently."

Some claim they, now.
But it's more the fault of PERL than the men in black. LOL!!

"New ones could be created but these new sites could be identified with computer word searches and quickly targeted as well. All of this could be done covertly, perhaps even as only an annoyance to reduce the sites effectiveness, maybe veiled as web attacks from foreign countries. This would fit the liberal left modus operandi rather well."

Don't make the mistake of believing only the Left would enjoy muzzling the Internet, my friend. A mistake.

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to create a situation whereby it'd appear 'obvious' controls were needed for the Internet? ;^)

Look to Weimar Republic of Germany for all manner of stunts & shenanigans employed to get the thinking of the republic "right" for the Nazis. Legislation severely limiting the Internet, specifically content, can easily be manipulated.

Easier yet a pair of wire cutters? LOL

"They" have the print media. "They" have the broadcast media. Think "they'd" like the Internet?

38 posted on 12/04/2009 6:23:10 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Landru
“Wouldn't it be a lot easier to create a situation whereby it'd appear ‘obvious’ controls were needed for the Internet? ;^)”

I'm not certain how easy that would be to accomplish, or exactly what they could say that would rise to that level. I hope I don't find out.

39 posted on 12/04/2009 6:51:38 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: 1776 Reborn
"I'm not certain how easy that would be to accomplish, or exactly what they could say that would rise to that level."

Oh?
Let's play a game.
I'll print a series of words, you think about 'em.
That's it.
Sort of a Rorschach inkblot test, minus ink blots, just words or short phrases.
Okay?

>Barack Hussein Obama.
>Joe Biden
>Global Warming, or AGW
>TARP.
>Nobel PP for Obama
>Nobel PP for AlBore
>Cap and Trade
>General Motors
>Chrysler Corporation
>'Carbon Credits'
>Immigration 'Reform'
>Healthcare 'Reform'
>'Fairness Doctrine'
>Czars
>Timothy Geithner

That's enough, all recent enough events, right?
Have at it, and, have some fun. LOL ;^)

"I hope I don't find out."

Oh you'll find out alright, we'll all find out.
We're all in the, "front row" as Bob Uecker liked to say? LOL

40 posted on 12/04/2009 7:24:19 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Landru
Can't understand where this is coming from Landru.
The only test I'm interested in is the test of time.
41 posted on 12/04/2009 8:20:05 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: 1776 Reborn
"Can't understand where this is coming from Landru."

I see. You asked: "I'm not certain how easy that would be to accomplish, or exactly what they could say that would rise to that level."

Look at each item on the list, ask yourself what you asked me but with a couple juxtaposioned words, like this: "I'm not certain how easy hard that would be to accomplish, or exactly what they could say said that would rise to that level make the listed items possible."

Never-mind, my friend.
Suffice to say if they want the Internet, they'll get the Internet. 'k? ;^)

42 posted on 12/04/2009 8:40:34 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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