Commander Fitzpatrick attacks Obama at Monroe County Courthouse

American Grand Jury ^ | December 3, 2009

[Man50D]

Yesterday was a historic day.. and it all happened in the small Tennessee town of Madisonville located in Monroe County

Commander Fitzpatrick arrived at the Monroe County Court with documents and evidence in hand.

WVLT-TV in Knoxville, TN did a live video report: http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/78267717.html

Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick has been at the forefront of the Obama “treason” charges since before the election. American Grand Jury has been involved convening Grand Juries that include among other things, the Fitzpatrick “Criminal Complaint” that was filed back in March, 2009 with US Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant US Attorney Edward Schmutzer for the Eastern District Tennessee.

See the American Grand Jury Presentments here, Exhibit 5

Many are now aware of the “obstruction” of justice that has occurred over the past few months where District Attorney James H. Stutts and Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway have refused to let Commander Fitzpatrick appear and testify before the Monroe County Grand Jury. Fitzpatrick’s testimony involves the formal charges of “fraud and treason” against Barack Obama.

That refusal was recently recinded by Monroe County and the offer to now appear before the Grand Jury was extended to Commander Fitzpatrick. Of course, we are guessing that the pending charges of “obstruction” against Stutts and Pettway filed by Fitzpatrick had a lot to do with the Court changing its mind.

[John.Galt2012]

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[GreenLanternCorps]

Treason against the United States is a Federal crime and outside the jurisdiction of a State court, let alone a private “grand jury” that operates outside of the Constitution and laws of the United States and of the State of Tennessee.

[tired_old_conservative]

Didn't you get the word? Every single federal Grand Jury ever formed was illegitimate. A bunch of yoyos who call themselves a Grand Jury said so.

Start the mass appeals for everyone in jail on a Federal rap. I'm convinced. I'll demand lucrative fees from the incarcerated and write bad briefs citing the AGJ web page. What could possibly go wrong?

[Man50D]

Treason against the United States is a Federal crime and outside the jurisdiction of a State court, let alone a private “grand jury” that operates outside of the Constitution and laws of the United States and of the State of Tennessee.,

There is no such thing as "private grand jury" All grand juries require jurists not to speak about proceedings while they occur. The Bill Of Rights are powers vested only to the people by our founding fathers. The power of the grand jury is in the 5th amendment. Consequently citizens have the power to convene a grand jury. Presentments can be served by a grand jury in any court. The only requirement is that the Presentments and any subsequent indictments follow federal rules if the charges are against a national figure

[awake-n-angry]

“The only requirement is that the Presentments and any subsequent indictments follow federal rules if the charges are against a national figure”
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Where can I find this caveat in the Constitution or legal precedent.

[Man50D]

Where can I find this caveat in the Constitution or legal precedent.

Are you suggesting state rules apply regarding serving Presentments to a national figure?

[MilspecRob]

Don’t waste you time.

[awake-n-angry]

I’m not suggesting anything, I’m asking for the Constitutional basis for the procedure that you are claiming as legitimate. Can you provide a single precedent where such a thing has ever been employed?

[Drew68]

Yesterday was a historic day..

Not really.

Commander Fitzpatrick arrived at the Monroe County Court with documents and evidence in hand.

And behaved like an unhinged crank in front of TV cameras.

"American Make-Believe Grand Jury" is like the "Code Pink" of the Right and their ridiculous "Presentments" will not be taken seriously by any legal authority whatsoever.

You can mark my words. They'll get nowhere. The only success they'll see will be in making Obama's legitimate opponents look like crazies.

[Man50D]

I’m not suggesting anything, I’m asking for the Constitutional basis for the procedure that you are claiming as legitimate. Can you provide a single precedent where such a thing has ever been employed?

In 1635, the Massachusetts Bay Colony impaneled one of the first grand juries consider the legitimacy of cases in the U.S. By 1683, all the States had some form of Grand Jury process. In 1765, for example, a Boston grand jury refused to indict patriots protesting against the Stamp Act.

Citizen grand juries were the norm due the power of the grand jury being vested only to the people per the 5th Amendment until 1946 when the judicial branch of government attempted to usurp this power with the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure

[thecraw]

The only success they'll see will be in making Obama's legitimate opponents look like crazies.

So exactly WHO are Barry's "legitimate" opponents? Hmmmmm???

As far as you and the other Obots/Enablers that expound in Birther threads, any and all that oppose Hussein in any way fits this bill - just like the state-run media prefers it.

Of course, any of us "crazies" who ALSO opposed Global Warming were also dismissed by the SRM. But lo and behold, we who are called Global Warming "DENIERS" have now been vindicated.

The Truth has a nasty and inconvenient way of coming out into the light. Just wait, for Barry's skeletons will be exposed too, much to your dismay. Birthers will have our day of vindication for this righteous cause - all in good time...

[Drew68]

But lo and behold, we who are called Global Warming "DENIERS" have now been vindicated.

So the cult of global warming getting discredited is somehow vindication for birthers? I guess you all have to take your victories where you can find 'em...

[browardchad]

"American Make-Believe Grand Jury" is like the "Code Pink" of the Right and their ridiculous "Presentments" will not be taken seriously by any legal authority whatsoever.

Yes, but Fitzpatrick's got a new ploy. He took his "charges" to a real Grand Jury in his home county of Tennessee. That was a few months ago, and he claims he was "thrown out" of the courthouse, which, of course, never happened. Then he brought charges against the GJ foreman and the prosecutor, so they set up a two-juror panel, per state statute, to hear his charges the other day. He had a temper tantrum because they didn't drag the entire GJ in to hear his gripes.

Immediately after the hearing, he admitted they only discussed his charges against the foreman and prosecutor, but then changed his tune and said they discussed charges against Obama, and he's been plastering that lie everywhere.

Fitzgerald is a crank who was CM'd by the Navy for irregularities in handling of Navy funds, and subsequently forced out of the Navy. He's carried on a vendetta against the justice system ever since, calling himself "The JAG hunter." This is personal crusade.

He also believes, or wants his followers to believe, that if he can get himself arrested and charged through this nonsense, that he'll get -- wait for it -- discovery! that will remove the usurper from the WH.

He gives instructions on his website so that any citizen can make an absolute ass of themselves, just like Fitzgerald.

[John.Galt2012]

I didn’t. Piqued my interest, but I quickly got over it.

[Red Steel]

I see they short shrifted him on the jury size.

[Red Steel]

Well, this thread is a congregation of trolls.