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Elizabeth Smart kidnapper shares LeBaron traits, expert says
Deseret News ^ | Dec. 2, 2009 | Pat Reavy

Posted on 12/03/2009 4:47:13 PM PST by Colofornian

Brian David Mitchell and a murderous polygamous family patriarch shared many similar traits and operated in very similar ways, an expert on religious cults and their members who commit crimes testified Wednesday.

Richard Forbes, a retired law enforcer for both Salt Lake and Los Angeles counties, investigated killers Ervil LeBaron and Charles Manson during his career. Forbes is an expert on LeBaron and his followers.

During the third day of Mitchell's competency hearing in federal court, Forbes compared the man accused of kidnapping and raping Elizabeth Smart to LeBaron and other religious cult leaders.

Both men used revelation as a tool to get what they wanted, Forbes said.

"He basically used the same type of revelations that Ervil did," Forbes said of Mitchell...

In comparing the two figures, Forbes noted that Mitchell and LeBaron were both raised in LDS environments; were later excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints but continued to maintain a belief in church founder Joseph Smith and his teachings; and controlled those around them by using their own interpretations of revelations and threats of death.

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Forbes also said both men claimed to be "the one mighty and strong," which he said is a common claim among cult leaders.

He compared Mitchell's "Book of Immanuel David Isaiah" with LeBaron's "Book of the New Covenant." In both sets of religious writings, each man claims he received the keys from God to lead people out of a corrupt society, Forbes said. Whereas Mitchell referred to himself as a prophet, LeBaron called himself, among other things, the third part of the Holy Trinity or the Holy Ghost, the "mouthpiece of God" and the "foremost man who now helps people shape up."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: cults; lds; mitchell; mormon
From the article: In comparing the two figures, Forbes noted that Mitchell and LeBaron were both raised in LDS environments; were later excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints but continued to maintain a belief in church founder Joseph Smith and his teachings; and controlled those around them by using their own interpretations of revelations and threats of death.
1 posted on 12/03/2009 4:47:15 PM PST by Colofornian
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2 posted on 12/03/2009 5:01:01 PM PST by AndrewB (FUBO)
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I initially read this as “LeBron traits.” As you can imagine, I was slightly confused.


3 posted on 12/03/2009 5:10:29 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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Interesting article ping


4 posted on 12/03/2009 5:28:13 PM PST by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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Elizabeth Smart kidnapper shares LeBaron traits, expert says

I'm guessing he has Corinthian Leather seats?

5 posted on 12/03/2009 5:36:24 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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Both men used revelation as a tool to get what they wanted, Forbes said

This is untrue. The psychotic freak went into Her bedroom deep in the dark of night threatened her that he would hurt her sister if she said anything and stole her out of her own home. What he wanted was a pretty, young girl to do very evil things with and violence and force was his tactic. Not religion. He didn't use religion at all.

6 posted on 12/03/2009 5:49:04 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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Ping


7 posted on 12/04/2009 6:44:39 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (The House health care bill that is dropping contains the word “shall” 3,425 times...)
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Forbes noted that Mitchell and LeBaron were both raised in LDS environments
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That Joey Smith traits thingy...

Yeppers they both have it...


8 posted on 12/04/2009 7:20:46 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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In comparing the two figures, Forbes noted that Mitchell and LeBaron were both raised in LDS environments; were later excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints but continued to maintain a belief in church founder Joseph Smith and his teachings; and controlled those around them by using their own interpretations of revelations and threats of death.

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There are many LDS splinter groups who believe the LDS church (SLC) has fallen into apostasy, either over changes in the temple, allowing blacks to have the priesthood, or polygamy.

The “one mighty and strong” is a recurring theme among these groups.

These cases also show just how rotten the “fruit” of Joseph Smith is.


9 posted on 12/04/2009 12:49:34 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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